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  • Why Turkey Isn’t Going To Sell Its Russian S-400 Missiles To The United States

    Why Turkey Isn’t Going To Sell Its Russian S-400 Missiles To The United States

    Paul Iddon Contributor Aerospace & Defense I write mostly about Middle East affairs, politics and history.
    A U.S. senator last week introduced legislation to provide funding to buy Turkey’s Russian-built S-400 air defense missiles. While that might theoretically break the contentious deadlock this issue has created between the two fellow NATO alliance members, it’s not likely to happen for a number of reasons.

    TURKISH DEFENSE MINISTRY VIA AP.

    Senate Majority Whip John Thune  proposed an amendment to the 2021 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would authorize use of the U.S. Army’s missile procurement account to purchase Turkey’s sophisticated Russian-built long-range S-400 air defense missiles. 

    Since Turkey made the estimated $2.5 billion deal for the Russian missiles in 2017, Washington and Ankara have repeatedly butted heads over that unprecedented move. The U.S. repeatedly insisted that it was irresponsible and unacceptable for Turkey, a NATO member, to buy such an advanced Russian missile system. 

    Washington also insisted that having S-400s and stealthy fifth-generation F-35 Lightning II fighter jets operating in the same military could potentially enable Russia to glean sensitive information about the latter’s stealth capabilities.

    Turkey insisted that such fears were unfounded.

    Nevertheless, the U.S. suspended Turkey from the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program, banned it from ordering F-35s for its air force, and began removing it from the aircraft’s lucrative production program.

    The S-400 purchase also made Turkey eligible for sanctions under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA). However, the Trump administration has avoided imposing any sanctions on Ankara under that law to date.

    Thune is not the first U.S. politician to advocate some form of compromise with Ankara on the S-400 issue to avoid the imposition of CAATSA sanctions and any further deterioration in U.S.-Turkey relations.

    Last July, the same month Turkey took delivery of the first components of its new Russian missiles, Senator Lindsey Graham suggested that if Ankara did not activate the system then Washington could reach some agreement with it and avoid having to impose any sanctions. 

    Turkey, however, doubled down on its vow to activate the system. It first tested its S-400’s radar against some of its air force’s U.S.-made F-16 and F-4 fighter fighter jets in Ankara last November and steadfastly reiterated several times that it would activate the missile systems in April.

    April came and went as did that scheduled activation. 

    Turkey insists the activation is delayed because of the novel coronavirus pandemic, not because it had changed its mind, again insisting that it bought the system to use it. 

    Last August, U.S. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said that Turkey would have to move the S-400s “out of the country” altogether before the U.S. would even consider allowing it back into the F-35 Joint Strike Program.

    (DARDANELLAS/GETTY IMAGES)
    If Thune’s proposed legislation somehow leads to a successful U.S. purchase of Turkey’s entire S-400 arsenal then Ankara will have fulfilled that main U.S. precondition for re-entering the F-35 program.
    The Trump administration would likely welcome resolving the U.S.-Turkey S-400 impasse. President Trump, who has good personal relations with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, had previously said it’s “not fair” that the U.S. can’t sell Turkey F-35s because of its S-400 purchase. 

    The president would undoubtedly welcome another opportunity to sell Turkey these jets. Turkey would also have a lot to gain from reclaiming its sizeable role in the Joint Strike Fighter production program given the dire state of its economy. 

    From an intelligence standpoint, possessing fully operational S-400 missiles would enable the U.S. to thoroughly inspect and test the advanced Russian system, evaluating all of its strengths and weaknesses. 

    In the late 1990s, Greece acquired Russian S-300 air defense missiles, the S-400’s older brother, that were previously destined for Cyprus. In more recent years, Israel reportedly got an opportunity to train its air force against those Greek missiles. This likely proved useful for the Israeli military since its regional adversaries Iran and Syria also possess S-300s.

    The U.S. could similarly test and gauge the effectiveness of the S-400 if it purchased Turkey’s batteries.

    Buying Turkish S-400s would certainly not be the first time the U.S. bought advanced Russian military hardware from a third country. In 1997, it purchased Moldova’s MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter jets to keep them out of Iran’s hands. Washington also took that opportunity to inspect those advanced Russian warplanes and gain a better understanding of their capabilities.

    However, the U.S. is not likely going to actively seek to buy Turkish S-400s despite this proposed legislation. Turkey is also unlikely going to want to sell those missiles.

    Following Thune’s proposal, Russia clarified that Turkey needs its permission if it wants to sell the S-400s to another country, something Moscow’s not likely to give Ankara since it certainly wouldn’t want the U.S. learning everything there is to know about one of its premier air defense systems. 

    Erdogan also wouldn’t want to antagonize Russia by selling the missiles since Moscow could well respond by making life much more difficult for Turkey in both Syria and Libya. 

    The Turkish government has already dismissed Thune’s suggestion. Also, Erdogan would be unlikely to accept Thune’s proposal even if it makes it into the final version of the NDAA and if Russia weren’t opposed to any sale.

    The Turkish president seems to have risked so much to procure S-400s since it is, in many ways, the ideal air defense system for protecting Ankara against another coup attempt, something Erdogan deeply fears.

    In the July 15, 2016, coup attempt, Turkish Air Force F-16s piloted by the putschists bombed Ankara, including the Turkish parliament. This deeply shocked Turks since it was the first time the city had experienced a military attack in 600 years.

    Since Turkey’s military consists almost entirely of U.S.-built equipment, its capital city found itself effectively defenseless against its own warplanes. In the words of one Turkish analyst, “what was noticed during the 2016 coup attempt is that Turkey did not have any effective defense mechanism against ‘its own’ American made weaponry!”

    If there is another similar coup attempt, Turkish S-400s that are not integrated into Turkey’s air defense networks would likely prove very well placed to shoot down any renegade Turkish F-16s targeting the capital. After all, the Russian-built system was designed with the possibility that it might one day have to shoot down NATO warplanes. 

    It’s likely for this reason that Erdogan decided to risk so much to acquire Turkey’s S-400s. It’s also likely why he’s so unwilling to give them up and absolutely willing to endure all of the negative political and economic consequences for Turkey that comes with holding onto and eventually activating them.
    Paul Iddon

    I am a journalist/columnist based in Erbil, Iraqi Kurdistan from where I’ve been writing about regional affairs for five years now._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    NOT/NOTE:
    Rusya zaten S-400 sisteminin üçüncü bir ülkeye izinsiz devredilmeme  şartını başından koşmuş bulunuyor.
    Üstelik Rusya istediği an sistemin uydu bağlantısını kesip saf dışı bırakabilir.

    Washington’da Yigal Carmon adında eski bir İsrail istihbarat ajanının 1998’de kurmuş olduğu Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) adında bir kuruluşun Rusya’da Versia haber sitesinde S-400’ler ile ilgili yayımlanmış bir haberi ileten 29 Haziran 2019 tarihli bildirisinde Rusların Türkiye’ye satılan füzelerin kendilerine karşı kullanılmasını veya füzeler hakkında gizli bilgilerin ABD’ye sızmasını önlemek için bu tedbirleri almış oldukları yazılıydı:

    1- Füze sisteminin elektronik yazılım kodları paylaşılmayacakmış.

    2- Sistemin elektronik hafızasına girme (hack) girişiminde bulunulursa bilgisayar hafızasındaki tüm bilgileri derhal otomatik olarak silmeye programlıymış.

    3- Antlaşma gereğince Türkiye’nin S-400 sisteminin içine girmesine veya değişiklik yapmasına izin yokmuş.

    4- Sistem bakımını sadece Rus teknisyenler yapacaklarmış ve üzerindeki mühürleri kontrol edeceklermiş.

    5- Her füze bataryasının içinde sezici aletler bulunuyormus ve içini açmaya kalkışılırsa sistem otomatik olarak uzayda bir Rus askeri peykine elektronik sinyal gönderiyormuş.

    6- Eğer bu sinyale mani olacak herhangi bir hangara konulur ve sinyal bağlantısı kesilirse, tüm sistem çalışmaz hale geliyormuş.

    7- Tüm hava savunma sistemlerinde olduğu gibi S-400 sisteminin dost-düşman uçağı ayırımı yapma yeteneği varmış.

    Haberin İngilizce metni:

    “ … when the Turkish authorities made a deposit for the S-400 delivery, they unexpectedly put forward a number of additional conditions. The Turks began insisting that secret technologies be transferred to them and on the joint production of rocket systems. Officially, it is reported that the Russian side refused to fulfill this request and access to the internal systems of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile complexes was excluded [from the contract]. Well, there is no choice but to believe these statements.

    “Now Russian manufacturers say that no documentation on production data is transferred to Turkey, and therefore Ankara, and especially the Americans, will not be able to gain access to the S-400 systems. Upon an attempt to bypass the password and hack the system, the computer will automatically destroy all the data embedded in it. According to the agreement, Turkey does not have the right to disassemble the complexes and modify them. According to the manufacturers, this ensures that the Russian S-400 systems are reliably protected from any copying infringements. Armament maintenance will also be handled exclusively by Russian specialists, who will be able to control the integrity of the manufacturing seals.”Additionally, each piece of machinery has special sensors that transmit a signal to a satellite military communication channel if someone makes an unauthorized dissection. And if an attempt is made to place the complex in a special hangar that obstructs signal transmission, all S-400 equipment will be instantly blocked. Also, for reliability, air defense missile systems are equipped with ‘friend-foe’ recognition systems.”(Kaynak: https://www.memri.org/reports/russian-media-outlet-versiaru-experts-fear-s-400-delivery-turkey-may-lead-secret)

  • ‘Disagreement between friends’: Ret. Adm. Stavridis downplays Turkey’s S-400 deployment but warns about Russia threat

    ‘Disagreement between friends’: Ret. Adm. Stavridis downplays Turkey’s S-400 deployment but warns about Russia threat

    Oya Bain oyabain@gmail.com

    James G. Stavridis
    James G. Stavridis

    Yesterday I participated in the THO program of General Stavridis and Fikri Isik. I am very impressed with both of them. Stavridis was excellent, moderate, mature, and had only best comments about Turkey and Turkish armed forces. Stavridis probably grew up with the endless brainwashing coming from his father. Also, the common people on both sides suffered terribly during those years. Probably it was later during the population exchange the father has left Anatolia, not early in 1920. Greeks occupied Izmir on May 15 1919 and advancing in Anatolia in 1920s

    I think we have to look forward in such cases. It appears that once Stavridis got to know the Turks his impressions and feelings changed. He was the commander of US Southern Command 2006-2009 and Supreme Commander of European NATO forces 2009-2013. The book was written in 2008.

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    Amiral Stavridis hakkinda ek bilgi…

    Early life and family[edit]

    Stavridis was born in West Palm Beach, Florida,[23] son of Shirley Anne (Schaffer) and Paul George Stavridis.[24][25][26] His father was a United States Marine Corps colonel who served in World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War.[27] Stavridis is married to Laura Hall, author of Navy Spouses Guide.[28] His paternal grandparents were Anatolian Greeks, born and raised in Western Anatolia, who emigrated to the United States.[29] His mother’s family was Pennsylvania Dutch (German).[30]

    In his 2008 book, Destroyer Captain: Lessons of a First Command, Stavridis wrote:

    In the early 1920s, my grandfather, a short, stocky Greek schoolteacher named Dimitrios Stavridis, was expelled from Turkey as part of ‘ethnic cleansing’ (read pogrom) directed against Greeks living in the remains of the Ottoman Empire. He barely escaped with his life in a small boat crossing the Aegean Sea to Athens and thence to Ellis Island. His brother was not so lucky and was killed by the Turks as part of the violence directed at the Greek minority.

    A NATO exercise off the coast of modern Turkey was the “most amazing historical irony [he] could imagine,” and prompted Stavridis to write of his grandfather: “His grandson, who speaks barely a few words of Greek, returns in command of a billion-dollar destroyer to the very city—Smyrna, now called İzmir—from which he sailed in a refugee craft all those ye

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  • S-400 Delivery To Turkey May Lead To Secret Technologies Leaking

    S-400 Delivery To Turkey May Lead To Secret Technologies Leaking

    Trump to confront Turkey about buying Russian defense system /Russian Media Outlet Versia.ru: Experts Fear That The S-400 Delivery To Turkey May Lead To Secret Technologies Leaking

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    By Deb Riechmann | AP

    November 10, 2019 at 9:14 p.m. EST

    NEW YORK — President Donald Trump will confront Turkey’s leader about his decision to buy a Russian air defense system when they meet this week at the White House amid strained relations between the two NATO allies.

    Trump’s national security adviser, Robert O’Brien, said Sunday that the United States is still “very upset” by the move to purchase the Russian S-400 system. The U.S. says the system is not compatible with NATO forces and could compromise the F-35 fighter jet program and aid Russian intelligence. The Trump administration removed Turkey from the F-35 program in July.

    O’Brien told CBS’ ”Face the Nation” that if Turkey doesn’t get rid of the Russian system, Turkey will likely face U.S. sanctions backed by a bipartisan majority in Congress.

    Trump is scheduled to meet with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday and NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg on Thursday. Trump and Erdogan plan a joint news conference Wednesday afternoon.

    “There’s no place in NATO for the S-400,” O’Brien said. “There’s no place in NATO for significant Russian military purchases. That’s a message that the president will deliver to him very clearly when he’s here in Washington.”

    O’Brien said, however, that the U.S. will do everything it can to keep Turkey in NATO.

    Turkey has been roundly criticized for its incursion into northern Syria to attack Kurdish forces that were fighting with the U.S. against Islamic State militants. Trump has been denounced for removing U.S. forces from the area before the incursion, but O’Brien said the administration did not pave the way for Erdogan’s offensive into Syria.

    Copyright 2019 The Associated Press.


    The following news was reported last week. Is Turkey trying to pressure Russia for greater technology transfer and joint production as regards the S-400’s (see the last article from MEMRI below); or is Turkey laying the groundwork for an agreement with the U.S. by perhaps cancelling delivery of the second half of the S-400’s on technical grounds?:

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    NOVEMBER 4, 2019 / 4:07 AM / 7 DAYS AGO

    Turkey says delivery of second Russian S-400 batch may be delayed

    ANKARA (Reuters) – Delivery of a second batch of Russian S-400 missile defense systems to Turkey may be delayed beyond a planned 2020 timeline by talks on technology sharing and joint production, the head of Turkey’s Defence Industry Directorate said on Monday.

    NATO allies Turkey and the United States have been at loggerheads over the purchase of the S-400 system, which Washington says is not compatible with NATO defenses and poses a threat to its Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter jets.

    Despite Washington’s warnings and threats of U.S. sanctions, Turkey started taking delivery of the first S-400 batch in July. In response, Washington has removed Turkey from the F-35 program, in which Ankara was a manufacturer and buyer.

    Washington still hopes to persuade its ally to “walk away” from the Russian systems.

    “We are planning a timeline for next year. As opposed to the first (batch), there is joint production and technology transfer here. It is beyond the ‘let’s buy it quickly and install it’ of the first system,” Ismail Demir told broadcaster NTV.

    “The joint production concept may move the timeline. We have some sensitivities regarding some of the production being here. Technical work continues,” he said.

    Despite the threat of U.S. sanctions over Ankara’s move to buy the Russian systems, Turkey has indicated it could procure Russian fighter jets if the United States refuses to deliver the F-35 jets it has purchased.

    On Monday, Demir said Russia had offered to sell Turkey its Su-35 fighter jets.

    “There is an offer and we are evaluating it. There cannot be such a thing as ‘we’re buying tomorrow’ in such matters. The offer’s financial and strategic aspects will be examined, there cannot be an immediate decision,” Demir said.

    “It would not be right to say ‘the F-35 era is closed, the Su-35 era is beginning’, but we will evaluate the offer,” he said.

    Ties between Ankara and Washington have been strained over issues such as Turkey’s offensive into northeastern Syria. Turkey has also been outraged over a decision by the U.S. House of Representatives to support sanctions on Ankara over its incursion and to recognize the mass killings of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire as “genocide”.

    Despite this, Demir said Turkey was still open to offers by the United States to buy U.S. Patriot missile defense systems as long as they met Ankara’s conditions.

    Reporting by Tuvan Gumrukcu and Can Sezer; Editing by Ece Toksabay and Giles Elgood


    July 29, 2019

    Special Dispatch

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    Russian Media Outlet Versia.ru: Experts Fear That The S-400 Delivery To Turkey May Lead To Secret Technologies Leaking; Recent History Shows That Turkey Can Suddenly Turn From Friend To Foe

    The Russian media outlet Versia.ru reported that Russian experts fear that the S-400 delivery to Turkey may cause classified Russian military technologies to leak to the West. Versia.ru emphasized that Russian manufacturers were trying to safeguard the technologies by withholding documentation on production data in the transfers to Turkey, and therefore Ankara will be unable to gain access to the S-400 systems. Furthermore, the agreement stipulates that Turkey may not disassemble or modify the complexes.

    After noting these assurances, Versia.ru warned that recent history proves that Turkey can suddenly turn from Russia’s friend to Russia’s foe. Anatoly Tsyganok, Head of the Center for Military Forecasting, told Versia.ru that following the S-400 deliveries to Turkey, a NATO country, a risk would arise that the US could explore Russia’s main air defense missile systems, and this could jeopardize Russia’s defense capability.

    Below are excerpts from the article:[1]

    The Negotiations For The Sale Of The S-400 Took Several Years, Why Are The S-400 Being Now Transferred So Quickly To Turkey By Airplanes?

    “Russia started the delivery of the Triumph S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Turkey. For Moscow, this is a significant event and a symbol of diplomatic victory: it was possible to drive a wedge between Ankara and Washington, the two NATO countries! However, experts are finding numerous puzzling elements in the ‘Triumph’ systems delivery to Turkey.

    “The sale negotiations for the S-400 took several years, why are they now being transferred so hurriedly to the Turks by airplanes? There is silence on the systems’ use conditions, although they may directly threaten Russian aircraft in Syria. And most importantly, will Russian military-technical secrets get away?

    “Turkey’s sale contract for the Russian anti-aircraft missile systems S-400 was signed at the end of 2017, the price was $ 2.5 billion. First, it was about the delivery of two divisions, which are presumably to be maintained by Turkish personnel. Now it is reported that Ankara will receive four divisional sets. Currently, the Turkish military is choosing the future location of the S -400, the information is kept secret, so it is still completely unclear whether, for example, Russian aircraft in Syria will be in the sights of the Turkish S-400.

    “The United States actively opposed this deal, as it counted on supplying Ankara with its Patriot air defense system. The Americans argued that the S-400 did not comply with NATO standards, and also noted the inadmissibility of military-technical cooperation with a country militarily opposed to the alliance. Nevertheless, the Turks, despite all the pressure from Washington, were able to have their way. Experts assumed that in order to achieve this Moscow had to make some very advantageous offers to the wily Erdogan. Apparently, it was feared that Erdogan might change his mind, and that explains the speed with which the S-400 appeared in Turkey. The complexes were delivered to the buyer by airplanes, although it was initially assumed that heavy equipment would be transported by sea, which is much cheaper. However, the most expensive option was chosen: they decided to use the An-124 ‘Ruslan’ aircraft for transportation – the only aircraft in the world capable of carrying such bulky and oversized cargo.

    “Was it worth to hurry? In general, there was a reason for this.

    “One can still remember the story of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems’ shipment to Cyprus in 1996. They were shipped by large amphibious vessels. However, while they were in the sea, the United States, the United Kingdom and Turkey, which has territorial disputes with Cyprus, opposed the fulfillment of the contract. As a result, the deal fell through.

    “Another unpleasant story happened with the recent delivery of Russian S-400 to China. In January 2018, a ship with components of this system, which left the Leningrad region, got caught in a storm in the La Manche region; as a result a part of the equipment was seriously damaged. To fulfill the terms of the contract, the rockets had to be built from scratch again. It seems that Moscow decided to not take risks.

    The S-400 May Likely End Up In US Hands

    “This way, Moscow was able to achieve what it wanted – a sale of S-400 to Turkey. However, a number of experts show concern, calling this contract a most dubious agreement in terms of preserving secrets. Obviously, Turkey seeks to obtain not only the weapons systems themselves, but also the technologies used in their creation. This is important because the Turkish military-industrial complex independently develops modern weapons and Ankara wants to minimize its dependence on arms purchases at foreign markets.

    “Let’s recall that last year, when the Turkish authorities made a deposit for the S-400 delivery, they unexpectedly put forward a number of additional conditions. The Turks began insisting that secret technologies be transferred to them and on the joint production of rocket systems. Officially, it is reported that the Russian side refused to fulfill this request and access to the internal systems of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile complexes was excluded [from the contract]. Well, there is no choice but to believe these statements.

    “Now Russian manufacturers say that no documentation on production data is transferred to Turkey, and therefore Ankara, and especially the Americans, will not be able to gain access to the S-400 systems. Upon an attempt to bypass the password and hack the system, the computer will automatically destroy all the data embedded in it. According to the agreement, Turkey does not have the right to disassemble the complexes and modify them. According to the manufacturers, this ensures that the Russian S-400 systems are reliably protected from any copying infringements. Armament maintenance will also be handled exclusively by Russian specialists, who will be able to control the integrity of the manufacturing seals.

    “Additionally, each piece of machinery has special sensors that transmit a signal to a satellite military communication channel if someone makes an unauthorized dissection. And if an attempt is made to place the complex in a special hangar that obstructs signal transmission, all S-400 equipment will be instantly blocked. Also, for reliability, air defense missile systems are equipped with ‘friend-foe’ recognition systems.

    “All this surely inspires hope. However, even recent history shows that Turkey can suddenly turn from Moscow’s friend to its enemy. And there is no guarantee that after the next conflict the Turkish authorities will not renounce all the agreements. In this case, it is likely that S-400 may end up in the hands of Americans, who are far better equipped to hack computer locks. As a result, NATO can get access to Russian secret technologies and learn how to counter them.

    […]

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    Anatoly Tsyganok (Source: Antimaidan.ru)

    “Anatoly Tsyganok, Head of the Center for Military Forecasting:

    “‘The S-400 sale to Turkey is an opportunity to make a profit and a unique advertisement for Russian weapons, a demonstration that even NATO countries are buying it. But there is a downside: it is obvious that leaks of information about these systems are quite possible. After the S-400 is delivered to Turkey, the risk arises that American technical personnel can access these complexes. That is, the US will be able to explore our main air defense missile systems, and this, in theory, could harm Russia’s defense capability. Although systems that have been exported have significantly lower properties, NATO countries will nevertheless receive general information about technologies. They will also have the opportunity to work out tactics against these systems during joint exercises. In addition, you need to understand that the S-400, if stationed on the border with Syria, could theoretically pose a danger to Russian military aviation.’”

  • A Game of Turkish Brinksmanship on Missile Defense – STRATFOR

    A Game of Turkish Brinksmanship on Missile Defense – STRATFOR

    This file photo shows an S-400 Triumf surface-to-air missile system belonging to the Russian Southern Military District's missile regiment in Sevastopol in Jan. 13, 2018.
    (SERGEI MALGAVKO/TASS via Getty Images)
    Highlights
    • Despite risks to its economy, Turkey, driven by domestic political imperatives and the need to defend its sovereignty, will not abandon the Russian-made S-400 over U.S. threats of retaliation.
    • The United States will likely follow through on its threat to impose sanctions on Turkey, which could hurt the country’s economy and further sideline it from the multinational F-35 fighter development program.
    • That pressure will slow the development timeline for Turkey’s domestic defense sector, but Ankara is calculating that it can withstand and defuse U.S. pressure over the issue.

    Turkey’s game of chicken with its most important NATO ally, the United States, is coming down to the wire. Turkey continues to insist that it will take delivery of the Russian-made S-400 missile system next month; the United States says it will impose penalties on Turkey if it does so. Whether by employing the provisions of the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) or ending Turkey’s involvement in the high-tech F-35 stealth fighter program, the U.S. could invoke retaliatory options that would hurt Turkey’s economy. But even as U.S. President Donald Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan discuss the potential for a last-minute deal on the issue, Turkey’s domestic political considerations are more likely to send the ostensible allies down the road to confrontation, rather than compromise.

    The Big Picture

    Notable policy disputes over the years have tested the relationship between Turkey and the United States. The Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974, the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, and, more recently, U.S. support for the Kurdish-dominated People’s Protection Units in Syria’s civil war have strained ties between the longtime NATO allies. And though the impending delivery of the Russian S-400 missile system to Turkey represents another major potential break, the threat of U.S. retaliation isn’t likely to dissuade Turkey from buying the air defense system — creating new risks to Ankara’s already unstable economy and exposing yet another rift in the two countries’ complicated relationship.

    Turkey Goes Its Own Way

    For both countries, there are deep interests at stake. The immediate reason for the S-400 purchase stems from the earlier failure of Ankara and Washington to reach an agreement on the sale of U.S. Patriot missile systems to Turkey, which began pushing to acquire an air defense system in part to defend itself as it became more involved in Syrian civil war. But after Turkey balked at the terms of a Patriot deal, it invited other offers in a tender process, ultimately choosing the Russian system. The decision has left a lingering sense of mistrust between Turkey and the United States, fueling the former’s desire to diversify its own arms suppliers.

    But in and of itself, the S-400 is only part of the explanation for Turkey’s behavior. For Ankara, the purchase would offer an upgrade on its relationship with Russia, whose cooperation is increasingly important to Ankara. More and more, that relationship matters on a security and strategic level, as Moscow’s assent is crucial if Ankara is to accomplish its goals in Syria. Buying Russian arms also helps Turkey fulfill its long-term strategy to diversify arms supplies and benefit from technology transfers from partners other than the United States, considering their recurrent disagreements over policy and strategy. For Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party (AKP), buying the Russian system over the objections of the Americans also delights the nationalists and ultranationalists who make up a sizeable portion of their political base and who wish to see Turkey act more independently in pursuit of its national interests.

    For the United States, Turkey’s S-400 purchase bears alarming strategic and military implications. A potentially expansive Russo-Turkish defense relationship would complicate America’s alliance with Turkey, a longtime NATO partner. The United States is also worried that Turkey could use the S-400 system to scan the F-35s that are meant to fly Turkish skies — with the resulting intelligence making it into Russian hands. Turkey has argued that the S-400 system already picks up F-35s patrolling near Russia’s Leningrad oblast around St. Petersburg, as well as in Syria, but that has failed to sway the United States. As a result, Washington is considering invoking CAATSA, ending Turkey’s participation in the multinational F-35 development program and/or imposing sanctions through the Protecting NATO’s Skies Act currently working its way through the U.S. Congress.

    While Turkey is well-aware of the economic consequences of its choice, domestic political considerations are propelling Ankara to override economic considerations and choose the Russian system.

    These interests have produced a clash between the two allies: Turkey does not want to appear to have backed down from its long-sought deal, while many in the United States beyond just Trump — such as in Congress — wish to pursue a confrontation with Turkey over the S-400.

    Ankara Plays to the Gallery

    Turkey thus finds itself in a position in which it must decide if it will, in some fashion, back away from the S-400 deal, or accept the possible economic damage of sanctions and its eventual ejection from the F-35 program. But while Turkey is well aware of the economic consequences of its choice, domestic political considerations are propelling Ankara to override economics and choose the Russian system.

    Erdogan has accumulated domestic clout by stoking nationalism through his frequent challenges to the ostensible Western imperialist pressure against his country. At present, Erdogan is calculating that the U.S. threats are a bluff, driving him to choose a path that bolsters the government’s popularity. But the fragile state of Turkey’s economy does pose the question of whether such political brinkmanship is worth it for Ankara. The country’s economy dipped into a recession during the last quarter of 2018, while growth also slowed in the second half of last year. During this time, Turkey has earned more revenue from exports — but only because the lira is so weak that the country’s goods are much cheaper. Over the next year, the Turkish private sector must pay back close to $140 billion in debt, while domestic consumption has slowed. But the five-year gap until the next scheduled elections in 2023 also forms part of Ankara’s calculations regarding economic risk, as Erdogan believes he has time to stabilize the economy — even if the United States imposes sanctions that cause foreign investors to flee or further depress the lira’s value.

    In terms of defense, Turkey aims to reach self-sufficiency by 2023 — the centenary of national independence; at present, it classifies itself as 70 percent independent in the sector. The defense industry has posted impressive growth figures in recent years, raising exports by 64 percent year on year this January and surpassing $2 billion in exports for the first time ever in 2018. These figures notwithstanding, Turkey might be willing to sacrifice the success of its arms industry on the grounds that CAATSA sanctions — which would target only the defense sector — won’t otherwise damage the country’s wider economy. After all, the country’s defense sector constitutes less than 1 percent of the Turkish economy and employs just 30,000 people in a labor market of 31 million. And according to the latest leaks on potential CAATSA sanctions, U.S. authorities could deny three Turkish defense companies access to the U.S. financial system — a restriction that would naturally hit the companies in question, but not necessarily hurt the rest of the economy.

    There is, ultimately, no guarantee that even major U.S. economic pressure will force Turkey to make a compromise on the matter.

    Nevertheless, U.S. sanctions would have a real impact on Turkey. For one, such measures would represent a political disappointment for the country’s leaders, who have pinned part of their narrative of a Turkish resurgence on the success of a robust defense industry. Furthermore, it would deal a personal blow to Erdogan, who has promised growth in the sector. And it would also be a setback to Turkey’s own security, as it would slow the country’s drive for self-sufficiency by hindering the formation of a well-developed defense sector through cooperation with the United States. And Turkey’s departure from the F-35 program could cause it to lose out on $10 billion to $30 billion in export revenue from its defense products.

    In the event that the United States retaliates against Turkey, the latter’s economic problems may overwhelm Ankara’s commitment to the S-400 deal and pave the way for more substantial negotiations on the issue. As part of a compromise, for instance, Turkey could mothball the S-400 system or donate it to a regional ally, like Azerbaijan. But there is, ultimately, no guarantee that even major U.S. economic pressure will force a compromise, meaning the S-400 debate may sour U.S.-Turkish relations for years to come.

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  • is Turkey and an armed system completely independent from the NATO possible?

    is Turkey and an armed system completely independent from the NATO possible?

    Why should Turkey buy the S-400 and have an armed system independent from the USA?

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    • Mehmet Perincek

    Turkish-American relations have never been in such a crisis. The causes of this crisis are clear:

    – US support for Kurdish separatists and its plan for a great Kurdistan.

    – The role of Washington in the attempted coup on June 15, 2016 and the use of US Gulenist against Turkey.

    – Trump’s announcement of an economic war against Turkey.

    Facing threats from the United States, to ensure their national security, Turkey began to look for alternative armed systems. Although Turkey is a member of NATO, it has become a target of Washington. Because of this, firstly the Americans stopped supplying the necessary weapons, secondly the armed systems dependent on the USA did not meet the needs of present times.

    In this regard, Turkey decided to buy the Russian anti-aircraft missile system S-400, which annoyed Washington very much, and the crisis between the two countries has grown. Even Trump’s administration saw this purchase as a betrayal and has threatened Ankara several times.

    On this issue, we reached out to Turkish political scientists and military experts to discuss the S-400 crisis with them and the actual needs of the Turkish Army for its armed system.

    “INCREDIBLE DEGREE OF MISTRUST BETWEEN US AND TURKEY”

    Commenting on Turkish-American relations for USA Really, Prof. Dr. Hasan Ünal, an expert on Turkish foreign policy, pointed out that there has been a security and political dimension all along:

    “There has been an incredible degree of mistrust between the two NATO allies. The US’s efforts to carve out a Greater Kurdistan in the Middle East of Iraq, Syria in particular, and Turkey, linking it through a corridor to the Eastern Mediterranean is certainly a very disturbing element in US-Turkish relations from Ankara’s point of view. Notorious US efforts to bolster up the PYD in Syria, for example, despite repeated warnings from Ankara, have fostered this mistrust to a considerable degree. Ankara does not presumably think that it is going to have to encounter Russia or any Russia-backed force in the foreseeable future in this part of the world.”

    “TURKEY WILL NOT CHANGE ITS MIND”

    On the other hand, everyone is wondering if these threats of sanctions repeatedly pronounced by US officials about the purchase of the S-400 air defense systems from Russia will scare off Turkey. Prof. Ünal emphasizes that Turkey’s decisions are already determined by the needs of the country, and not by threats from the Atlantic:

    “I would say that it is less likely than otherwise that these threats are going to make Turkey give up. To put it into some perspective, Turkey desperately needs air defense systems. It would like to buy and jointly produce these systems together with Russia, and Russia’s agreement to sell these sophisticated weapons and to produce them together with Turkey at a later stage is an important inducement. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, Turkey had earlier approached the US with a view to buying them from it but it had been turned down by Washington. The US not only did not want to sell its Patriot missiles, which are not as effective as the S-400s, but it also did not agree with Turkey’s offer of co-production, let alone transfer the technology to Turkey. After Turkey made a deal with Russia about the purchase of the S-400s, the US appears to be more than willing to sell the Patriots but I suppose that it is too late.”

    WHAT CHARACTERIZES S-400s AS COMPARED OTHER AIR DEFENSE SYSTEMS

    After Prof. Unal explained the geopolitical reasons for purchasing the S-400s, we asked Beyazıt Karataş, the retired Air Force Major General (TUAF), the following question: Is the S-400 responsive to Turkey’s military needs? First he said that the most important indicator for NATO and the West is their opposition to Turkey’s territorial integrity; In this case, it is necessary to question the relations of alliance with these simple facts and take measures accordingly. Then, he told us about the characterization of S-400s as compared to other air defense systems:

    “The S-400 Long Range High Altitude Air Defense System has properties two to five times better when compared to other long-range high-altitude air defense systems in terms of their ability, as shown in the table.”

    Why should Turkey buy the S-400 and have an armed system independent from the USA?

    ARE THE S-400s DANGEROUS FOR NATO?

    Having found such an expert, it was imperative to find out whether the S-400 was a danger for NATO, as Washington said it is:

    “The S-400 is an air defense system and not an attack weapon. In particular, Turkey, having felt the lack of a long-range system since the 1990s will fill an important gap in its high-altitude air defense system. Very clearly ‘our country, our motherland’ will constitute a threat and it will be used against enemy attacks. This means that it is a system to be used against threats from an enemy country, as it is raised most, not directly against NATO, but from the air, whether it is coming from a NATO member or any country.”

    “S-400s ARE ENOUGH FOR TURKEY’S DEFENSE”

    Then the conversation with Major General Beyazıt Karataş came to the most important point: Are the S-400s enough for Turkey’s defense?:

    “There will never be an air defense system alone. Because every air defense system itself needs air defense protection. In contrast, in the S-400 contract with Turkey, Russia will provide a significant deterrence for the protection of our airspace.

    The S-400s will enter our inventory in the 2019-2020 year, according to the agreements to be made to produce our future long-range high-altitude national air defense system. Turkey will make an important contribution to the experience and Turkey-Russian political relations, the military, the defense industry, and the economic dimension will contribute to this development.

    As a result, the US and NATO are still hoping that the S-400 agreement will be canceled, as happened with China. The US is putting all sorts of pressure and blocking against Turkey and threatening not to provide F-35 aircrafts if Turkey buys the S-400. It is seen that the US will continue these threats and blackmail until the end. The implementation of the agreement signed on the supply of Russia’s S-400, for safety, also holds great importance in terms of cooperation with neighbouring countries and prestige in the international arena.”

    “THE F-35 SYSTEM WILL DAMAGE TURKEY IN TWO WAYS”

    On Turkey’s agenda there is not only the purchase of the S-400s, but American F-35s are also being discussed. Major General Karataş considers the F-35s very dangerous for Turkish defense. According to Karataş, in case of a possible war with the US, Turkey could lose control of these fighters. He says that Turkey has other reliable alternatives:

    “As it’s known, in January 2019, US President Donald Trump signed the 2019 year budget, and according to the relevant clauses contained in it, if Turkey buys S-400s from Russia, they will prevent the delivery of F-35 aircraft, sa they have repeated in every platform and continues to repeat.

    Meanwhile, the Trump administration will try to compensate for possible radical steps regarding Turkey as Congress has done so far. Indeed, in the case of the S-400 coming to Turkey, Congress would not execute the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA)–the US State Department would decide. Of course, the State Department will have to move with instructions from Trump. However, Trump may not be able to bypass the Congress in these processes.

    Technical characteristics of the F-35 aircraft include invisibility, a combination of antennas, sensors and cryptographic links to enable NATO to operate jointly, to transfer information to land maritime and other elements. These features can create the perception of “perfect planes.” But from the national logistics point of view, as particularly important considering the problems experienced between Turkey and the US, the F-35 will be out of Turkey’s control. The F-35 system will damage Turkey in two ways.

    The first is the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS) and the second Performance Based Logistics (PBL). You are now procuring services from a US company and transferring logistics planning to the US nationally. For example, you want your 25 planes to be active. Under the agreement with Lockheed Martin, the parent company of the F-35s, the company manages this system to provide the activities of these aircraft to keep 25 active. So you can’t manage the activity of your own aircraft. You cannot manage your own logistics system according to the old national system. Yes, this method is economically good, but Turkey-US relations are not as they used to be.

    As a result, the US does not give the F-35s to do Turkey a great favor. Because of Turkey’s decision on F-35s, the Air Force will make Turkey 100 percent dependent on the US. This will prevent the development of our national aircraft. While the Turkish Air Force has already been tied to the US by 90-95 percent, it should be lowered. The F-35’s polished, exaggerated charm to be in the US’s orbit will make you 100 percent dependent on the US.

    If Turkey does not buy the F-35 aircraft, it won’t be the end of the world. Turkish-Russian military relations are not limited to the intake of air defense missiles, they are also increasing cooperation in space with the production of joint combat aircraft (TF-X), which should be among the priority targets. We can also say that the chance to develop new collaborations outside the US and NATO is now much more important and this is the exactly what the US fears.”

    “A NEW ERA IN RUSSIAN-TURKISH MILITARY RELATIONS”

    All our interlocutors emphasized the importance and necessity of an armed system independent from the United States. According to the Turkish political scientist Prof. Ünal, since it’s admission, Turkey has learned to develop some sort of an independent security policy for itself. He recalled that initially in the 1950s and early 1960s, it was perhaps like a US/NATO garrison in the Middle East and the Balkans and after the arrival of the infamous Johnson Letter in Ankara, in the summer of 1964, Turkey certainly moulded an independent foreign policy, though it remained in NATO:

    “It was after this 1964 policy re-evaluation that Turkey began to cultivate the best possible relations with the Soviet Union, a period that continued right up to the 1980s and even after. During these years, Turkey and the Soviet Union were on the best possible terms on trade and economy and, short of cooperating in security matters, they cultivated very good relations indeed.

    Since the end of the Cold War, things took a sharp turn for the better. Despite the Syrian crisis and the shooting down of a Russian fighter jet by Turkey, relations between Ankara and Moscow seem to be steady, and the purchase of the S-400s and possibility of co-production of several systems including S-400s seem to be heralding a new era in Russian-Turkish relations in which cooperation on security and military matters would well be on the agenda too.”

    TURKEY CHOOSES ITS FRONT

    Based on this, we can say that serious conflict and possible clashes with the United States force Turkey to have an armed system independent from NATO. In this sense, Russia and China are potential partners for Turkey.

    Turkey’s choice of the S-400 is not only an economic or technical choice. Although the S-400 has better properties compared to other systems, Turkey’s purchase of the S-400 primarily comes from geopolitical and strategic reasons. Turkey is choosing its front, its side. It is responding to threats from the United States by relocating in Eurasia.

    And this is not a choice but a necessity for Turkey. Turkey cannot survive in the Atlantic system, and maintain its territorial integrity and overcome the economic crisis. That is, to continue to exist, Turkey needs Eurasian cooperation.

    Beyazıt Karataş is a retired Air Force Major General (TUAF). Major General KARATAŞ served as the 2nd Tactical Air Force Command Chief of Staff in 2005-2006, and the 8th Main Jet Base Commander in 2006-2007. After being promoted to the rank of Major General on August 30, 2007, he served as Deputy Commander of Air Training Command and was assigned to the post of Deputy Undersecretary for Technology and Coordination of the Turkish Minister of National Defense (TMND) from September 10, 2007 to August 13, 2010. Major General KARATAŞ was assigned as the Deputy Commander of 2nd Tactical Air Force Command in 2010-2012 and retired from the Turkish Air Force on August 30, 2012. He has more than 3000 flight hours on different types of aircraft.

    Hasan Ünal is an expert on Turkish foreign policy. He holds a Ph.D. from Manchester University, Britain, where he lived between 1986 and 1993. Upon his return to Turkey, he took up a teaching job at Bilkent University, Ankara, in the Department of International Relations. Having worked at several other universities in Ankara, he recently moved to Istanbul Maltepe University.

    Author: Mehmet Perincek
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