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  • Armenian Genocide Lie, died and buried…

    Armenian Genocide Lie, died and buried…

    Oficina de Consultas al Parlamento 
    Cámara de Senadores 
    Av. de las Leyes s/n Montevideo CP 11.800

    Dear Madam-Sir;

    A few day ago Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said at a meeting held behind closed doors: “Turkey did not commit genocide against Armenians. The genocide claim was invented by the USSR to worsen Turkey-Armenia relations.” he said.

    Sad to say maintime On May 7, the Uruguayan Senate unanimously passed a bill declaring April 24 as “Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day.”

    Please read this letter and keep it in your Parliament’s archive for the future bills about the same issue.

    Respectfully yours

    Oğuz Tolga
    Yeşerti Sokak 4B-9
    Beşiktaş İstanbul

    Armenian Genocide Lie, died and buried…

    I know you do not read the counter TRUTHS about Armenian issue but as a very close man to the god by your proffession please read this.

    As I see ,with your all ignorance you are provoking the workd people with a “Genocide lie with long tail” about the Turks..

    Please read this first and try to understand the matter clearly.Do never be funny in front of the history..

    Tell me What would USA do if they were fighting with United allies, Russia & Mexico in the fictious 3 WW to establish a NEW MEXICAN STATE tyo unify with Mexico?.

    What would USA do if American Hispanic USA citizens suddenly start to ware Mexican /French /Russian uniforms and kill women,old,children and handicapped Americans in their own homes in Texas and New Mexico when all men of the USA army were fighting in 14 fronts against the all the leding powers of the world…

    Tell me what would USA do?

    USA bombed Hirosima and Nagazaki killed 250.000Japanese people after a finished war for the revenge of PearlHarbour’s 2300 lost Americans.

    But,Turks only deported Liar-menian(armenians are LIARS) traitor betrayers to another Ottoman Turks province from Van Bitlis and Mus Cities only to another Ottoman Province in today’s Syria,Der Zor…

    Liar-menians have been insulting,spreading lies and slanders about “my People”” for 100years with a great inferiorty complex of beeing a traitor betrayer nation to their own state,Ottoman Empire in the beginning of the 20th Century with the provocations of Russians and British & French governments..

    They have collaborated with the enemies(Russians in 1878-79/1914-15-French army in 1914-15),and wore their military uniforms and killed their own neighbors who have been living with them for atleast 13 centuries in Anatolia.

    What should Turks do after those hostilities.?

    See the betrayal from USA newspapers..You can easly check them.

    ) “Armenian Insurgent Bands Attack Kurds Near Erzeroum” Daily Gazette, 17

    Nov 1899 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Residents Kill Turkish Gendarmes” Davenport Morning Tribune,

    Iowa, 9 Sep 1890 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Attack Turks” Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, 15 Jul 1920, Nov 02

    1895, Iowa NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Bands Attack Turks in Mush” Fort Wayne Sentinel, 22 Jan 1902

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) Armenian Army Wants Aid To Set Up New Nation, Out For Independence, Fort

    Wayne, Indiana, 14 Dec 1918 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Attack Tartar Village” Monitoba Free Press, 15 Nov 1905

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Destroy Seventeen Villages, Insurgents Are Active In Sassun

    Area” Post Standard, 19 May 1904, Syracuse, New York NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) “French Attempt To Invest Asia Minor Frustrated By Turks” Armenian

    Volunteers Make Landing Possible Are Wiped Out, San Antonio Light 19 Apr

    1920 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Burn Turks, Constantinople” Tyrone Herald, Pennsylvania, Dec

    20, 1905 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Sassoun Massacre:Proof Of Assertion that Armenian Revolutionists Caused

    It” NewYorkTimes Aug 23, 1895 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “America And The Armenians” Reno Evening Gazette, Nov 14, 1915

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Begin Religious Assault:Attack Turks” ProgressReview, Nov 02

    1895, Iowa NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Destroy Village Massacre 400 Tartars” NewYorkTimes Nov 15,

    1905 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Attack Turks And Tartars” Daily Dorthwestern Oct 12, 1920

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Attack Turkish Villagers” Newport Daily Oct 25 1895

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians, Not Turks Set Smyrna Ablaze” Relief Worker Declares: San

    Antonio Express, 1923-01-22 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    “Armenian Army Approaching Erzerum” Bismark Daily Tribune, 13 Nov 1914

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Ready To Side With Russians” Elyria Evening Telegram, 13 Nov

    1914 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “General Antranik Ozanian, Famous Armenian General, Engaged In Many

    Battles Against the Turks, Dies ” Fresno Bee, 31 Aug 1927 NewsPaper’s

    Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Aiding Russians Besiege Turkish Town Van ” Manitoba Free

    Press, 7 Nov 1914 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Erzerum Taken From Turks By Armenian Corps, Aided By Detachment Of

    Armenian Volunteers” Oakland Tribune, 4 Apr 1918 NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Insurgents, Uprising in Van” Post Standard Syracuse, 6 Sep

    1904 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Fresno Armenian Weekly Editor Welcomes Gen Antranik, Headed Armenian

    Volunteers Against Turks” Van Nuys News, 14 may 1920 NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) “Russian Troops Linked with Greek and Armenian Civillians As The

    Perpetrators” New York Times, 22 Oct 1915 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Rebels Advance” New York Times, 6 Sep 1904 NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) “5 Armenian Revolutionary Societies To Bring About The Ruin of The

    Ottoman Empire” New York Times, 24 Sep 1896 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot

    “170 Armenian Bombs Exhibited” New York Times, 23 Sep 1896 NewsPaper’s

    Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Bomb Factory was Discovered Near Kassim Pasha Cemetery” New

    York Times, 12 Sep 1896 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Are pardoned : Turkish Amnesty To Zeitoun” New York Times, 14

    Feb 1896 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Insurgents Massacred All The Turkish Soldiers at Zeitoun” New

    York Times, 21 Dec 1895 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians landed with Arms and Bombs” New York Times, 15 Dec 1895

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Aggression Of Armenians” New York Times, 2 Nov 1895 NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) ” Mosque, School and Bazaar : Armenians Set Fire ” New York Times, 15

    Dec 1891 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Accused of Massacre. Tartar Complaints” The Times London, 19

    Mar 1920 Page 15 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “8.000+ Armenian Volunteers fighting for the Russians in Turkey”

    Armenian Red Cross To The Times Editor : The Times London 12 Jan 1915 Page

    7 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Welcomed Russians in Armenia Entered Turkey” Atlanta Constitution, 1914

    11 07 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Druse Tribe Revolt Spreads” Indiana Evening Gazette, 1925, August 13

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Volunteers in Victory Over Turks” Nevada State Journal, 1918,

    10 05 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Bands Preparing To Invade Ottoman Territory” Oakland Tribune,

    1905, May 10 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Istanbul Robert College Educated General Mesrob Azgapetian Titled For

    His War Services Against Turkey,” Republican And Times, 1922 02 0

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    “150 000 Armenian Volunteers in Russian Army Were The Only Forces

    Against Turks: Boghos Nubar, Paris” Times of London , 1919 Jan 30

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Threatening Letters From Armenian Revolutionionary Committee” Liverpool

    Courier, 1897 08-23 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Bomb Outrage in Constantinople Eight Armenians Arrested” Liverpool

    Courier, 1897 08-21 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Raiders From Turkish Territory on Turco-Persian Frontiers”

    Bristol Times And Mirror, 1897-09-29 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Reported Armenian Aggression – Terrible Barbarities” Liverpool Courier,

    1897-08-10 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Aid Russians Against Turks” Tyro Herald, 1914 12-10

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Four Hundred Cleveland Armenians Waiting to Call Back to Armenia To

    Fight Turkey” Lima Daily News, 1914 11-02 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Mahommedans Plan To Aid Co-Religionists – Barbarities By Armenians”

    NYT, 1905 June 26 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Four Villages Reduced To Ashes by Armenians” Lima Times Democrat 1906

    Sep 19 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Join Russians and Scatter Turks Near Feitun” Washington Post,

    1914 November 13 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Fight For Russia” Reno Evening Gazette London 1915 Jan 7

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) Russians Take Turks’ Fort Near Erzerum, In Pursuit of Turkish Cavalry

    Armenian Students Enthusiastic Volunteers in Petrograd” NYT, 1914 November

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Fighting Turks, Besieging Van Others Operating Turkish Army’s

    Rear” ” NYT, 1914 November 7 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Russians Win Van District” New Oxford, 1916-24-2 NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    “(Armenians) From America To Fight” NYT, 1915 January 8 NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Join Russians” Indianapolis Star, 1915-1-08 NewsPaper’s

    Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Aiding Russians in Campaign Against Turkey” Fort Wayne News,

    1914-11-07 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Active in European War” Fort Wayne Journal-Gazette,

    1914-11-13 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Volunteers Are To Increased to 15.000” Daily Kennebec Journal,

    1914 May 28 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    “Armenians in Revolt” Centralia Enterprise and Tribune, 1895-11-12

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 18 Oct 1915 : “Dangerous Rebel Armenians Betray Their Rulers, Take

    Refuge in Christian Missions : The Kind of Armenians A Turk Knows”

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 22 Nov 1915 : “Rebel Turk Djemal Pasha Orders 2 Turkish Band Chiefs

    Be Hanged For ill Treatment of Armenians” NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 14 Nov 1920 : “Armenians Complain of French” NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 13 Nov 1914 : “Turkish Armenians Refuse To Join Turkish Army –

    Ready To Join Russian Invaders for Armed Revolt” NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 2 May 1928 : “Huncak (Agitates Against Turkish Rule) Editor S

    Sapah-Gulian Dead” NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 15 Dec 1903 : “Armenian Revolt Likely” NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 4 Aug 1940 “Armenian Military Hero, General Sebooh Arshak

    Nersesian, Who Fought Against The Turks In 1920, Died At 66″ NewsPaper’s

    Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 22 Jun 1935 “Armenian Patriot Miran Sevasly Dead: He Helped Raising

    10.000 Armenians To Fight Against Turkish Front In Armenian Legion “

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 8 Jan 1915 “Armenians From America, Arrived In Tiflis, To Serve

    With The Russian Army Against Turkey” NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT: 9 Oct 1915 “Why We Aid Armenians: It’s Because We’re Bought by

    Anglo-French Gold” NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) NYT 13 May 1947 “James Chankalian, Won Honors, in Organising 300

    Armenian Volunteers To Fight Against Turkey” NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot

    !

    ) NYT 29 Sep 1915: “Armenians Brought Reprisals on Themselves by Trying to

    Stir Up Rebellion Against Turkey” “ARMENIANS’ OWN FAULT-Bernstorff”

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    “Turkish Garrisons Attacked by Armenian Rebels” The Washington Post,

    1904 Aug 10 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Rebels Killed 20, Wounded 23, in Turkey” The News, 1904 May 2

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Aiding Russians In Campaign Against Turkey” Fort Wayne News,

    1914 Nov 7 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) 2532) “Armed Armenians Kill Many” Muscatine Journal 19 Dec 1905

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenian Rebels Attack Town, Turkish Troops Fight Insurgents” Reno

    Evening Gazette Sep 13 1904 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Kill Turks” Manitoba Free Press 1916-02-22 NewsPaper’s Actual

    ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Go To Europe To Fight For The Allies” Racine Journal-News

    1917-08-31 NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    ) “Armenians Kill Azeri Turks (Tartars)” La Crosse Tribune, 1906-09-19

    NewsPaper’s Actual ScreenShot !

    Armenian Rebellion: Feilding Star, 5 Sep 1905

    Turks Were Defeated By The Armenian Army: NYT 29 Jun 1918

    Armenian Priests Acted As Guides For Russian Army To Get To Van: Evening

    Post 9 Dec 1914

    Armenian Students Join Russian Army In Caucasus : Evening Post 4 Nov 1914

    “Armenia Wants US Against Hun” -Miami Metropolis 27-Mar-1919

    “Hentchakist Bands Invade Turkish Territory” NY Times 10-Nov-1903

    ” Tacitly Encouraged by Russia, Armenians Cross Turkish Frontier” NY Times

    17-May-1903

    “Boxes Of Rifles, Ammunition & Dynamite in Armenian Church”

    Feb13-31Jan1908-St.Petersburg Telegraph Agency

    “Future Glorious Armenia Should Not Be Limited To Turkish Land, But Must

    Cover Themselves & Russian Land” Nov11-29Oct-1903-Moscow-Paper

    “5000 Armenian Revolters in Adana Preparing For Aggressive Action” NY

    Times 15 Nov 1895

    “Armenians Prefer Sultan’s Rule Not Emperor Nicholas” NY Daily Tribune

    25-Aug-1907

    “Armenians Armed With Revolvers & Spiked Staves, Dragged Armenian

    Patriarch From Pulpit” NY Times 29-July-1890

    “Armenian Revolt With The Help & Encouragement From Trans-Caspian

    Armenians in Russia” NY Times 13-Oct -1903

    “Armenians Responsible For Premeditated Riots” NY Times 25-Oct-1895

    “Gen Spiridowitch Organizing Armenians In NewYork For A Revolt In Turkey”

    NY Times 20-May-1907

    “Turkish Armenians In Armed Revolt Ready To Join Russian Invaders, Having

    Drilled & Collected …” NY Times 13 Nov 1914

    “Armenian Riots” Clutha Leader – 11 Oct 1895

    “Sassoun Massacre -Proof – Armenian Revolitionists Caused It” NY Times 23

    Aug 1895

    “Armenian Bands Formed To Attack & Kill Turks or Kurds” NY Times 18 Jan 1894

    “Armenians Have Plotted To Arouse Sympathy” NY Times 4 Oct 1895

    “Turks Hang Kemal Bey For Armenian Massacres” NYT 14 Apr 1919

    “Turkish Garrisons Attacked By Armenian Rebels” Washington Post, 10th Aug

    1904

    “Fighting In Sasun -Armenian Rebels” The News, May 2 1904

    “False Info Circulated By The Armenian Agitators” NYT, Nov 3 1895

    “Armenian Question: England And America Cannot Afford To Throw Stones”

    NYT, 23rd Sep 1895

    “Armenian Rebels Taken In Hand” -Evening Bulletin, Hawaii, USA, May 16, 1903

    “26.000 ‘Christian’ Armenians In Revolt” -Guthrie Daily Leader, Oklahoma,

    Nov, 1 1895

    “Armenians In Van Rise In Arms Against Turks” -Washington Times, May 12, 1915

    ” Plot To Blow Up Foreign Consulates By Armenian Rebels’ Dastardly Plan”

    -San Francisco Call -20 Aug 1905

    ” Turks Battle With Rebels” -San Francisco Call -19 May 1904

    “Were The Armenian Stories Of Atrocities Only Fabrications? ” -Daily

    Bulletin, April 25, 1895

    After all these TRUTHS Here are some questions for you to ask to your Liar-menian friends..I know They will never answer them..But please try at least ,ones..

    1) Why was every single Ottoman official, incarcerated for war crimes during the nearly two-and-a-half years of the Malta Tribunals, finally acquitted?

    THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT WOULD PUT AN END TO THE “ARMENIAN GENOCIDE” MATTER, TO ANY LOGICAL MIND. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE MALTA TRIBUNALS REFERRED TO IN ANY OF THE ARMENIAN WEB SITES.

    2) The “Sick Man of Europe” was on her knees, financially broke and depleted of manpower (thanks to German-directed military mobilization) and needed resources. Why would the empire choose this most inopportune time to target the Armenians, who made the financial wheels turn and were clearly a vital resource to the country?

    3) The “Sick Man of Europe” was on her knees, financially broke. Why would she spend a fortune on resettling the Armenians?

    If the idea was to wipe them out, why didn’t they massacre them on the spot, as the Armenians did with the Turks?

    4) Could the Ottoman Turks have the TECHNOLOGICAL capacity to carry out a government-sponsored genocide on such a grand scale?

    5) If the idea of the resettlement program was to subject the Armenians to a slow, genocidal death, why did so many Armenians survive?

    If there was a true government sponsored policy of extermination, why leave the barely-living starved alive? In short, it all boils down to: how could the great majority…one million out of less than one and a half million… have survived?

    6) Why then, would the Turks fool around by going through the musical chairs of separating the men (remember, the Armenians claim the men were largely unarmed)?

    Also, why were there supposedly so many orphans?

    If a government has in mind to wipe out a race, why leave so many children alive?

    The Armenians didn’t intend to leave the Turkish children alive.

    7) Hitler began by targeting the Jews in Berlin. Why were the Armenians in Istanbul and other cities of the West such as Izmir, left alone for the most part?

    The Armenians say this was because these cities were under too much foreign observation. However, the Ottomans were aware, after generations of being subjected to capitulations, that foreign posts were set up even in the distant corners of the empire… as readily under foreign observation.(American consuls of these out-of-the-way distant provinces, such as Leslie Davis [the genocide-proving “big gun” highlighted in the PBS pro-Armenian programs covered at this site], were among them. In addition, the missionaries were everywhere.)

    😎 As a related point, “Talat Pasa allowed the American missionaries to do relief work among the Armenians, in spite of the fact that Turkey and the United States were on the opposing camps during the war.

    How many examples are there in history of a combatant country permitting the citizens of another country fighting in the other camp to stay, feed, cloth and educate the people it is accused of exterminating?

    9) The Armenian perspective never fails to offer the convictions Turkish courts laid out to their own officials immediately after the war, and the Sevres Treaty, which partly proclaimed a large chunk of Eastern Turkey to be part of Armenia.

    For a better proof of judging whether a genocide occurred, one must look at the Treaty of Leninakan (Gümrü) signed (December 3, 1920) by the Armenians and Turks, which closed the book on past ills, foregoing the issue of reparations.

    If the Armenians were truly outraged over the Turks’ Nazi-like evil campaign to exterminate them, how could they have agreed to such terms?

    “If the Ottoman Empire really did commit the crime of genocide from 1915-1919, as Armenians allege, then why would the newly established Armenia turn to the Ottoman Empire for help in 1918, 1919, or 1920?

    10) As yet another follow-up, why didn’t Armenian delegate to the Paris Peace Conference, Boghos Nubar Pasha, mention the “genocide” in his January 30, 1919 letter to The Times of London?

    Dear Sir,

    The Liar-menians havent decide the date and figures of the victims of the so-called genocide,yet and they haven’t got even a single original documents in the Yerevan Museum of Genocide..

    You need to ask some more questions to the Museum authorities too.

    -Did turks kill 1.500.000 of your people in 1915

    or

    -Did Turks kill 1.500.000 of your people from 1890s to 1920s?

    -If they killed your people all in 1915 how could they do it when they were fighting in 14 fronts in 1915 including Gallipoli and Dardanelles war with all the Allies.

    -Even Hitler could kill,burn and bury 1.200.000 Jews in Auchswitz in 3 years with a great technology and man power.

    -ANCA Made a discount of 500.000 on Genocide Victims recently hahahaha

    Look at their letter to Coca Cola…on 24.th of April,2013…

    “”””” Dear Members of the Coca-Cola Company’s Board of Directors:

    We are writing to express our profound concern regarding the Coca Cola Company’s association with an organization that has, for many years, orchestrated a hateful public campaign to deny the Armenian Genocide, a government sponsored campaign that killed over 1,000,000 men, women and children because of their Armenian ethnicity and Christian faith.”””

    Aram Hamparian

    Executive Director, Armenian National Committee of America”””””

    It was “Over 1.500.000 last year and this year they said Over 1.000.000.Who knows the figures of the next year’s campaign?

    -If the Turks killed Liar-menians one by one from 1890s to 1920 why at least 15.000Armenian public servants in Ottoman empire including Ministers,Ambassadors,Consuls, second Consuls and other servants did not move their even a single finger and warn USA or Europe for the GENOCIDE?

    Were Armenian Bureucrats in Ottoman Empire the collabrators of the Genocide?

    Those armenian pashas and bureaucrats worked for the ottoman empire between the years of 1900-1919…

    IMAGINE;you are an Armenian Bureaucrat and Turks kill 1.500.000 of your people one by one in 10 years and you keep working as a authorised bureaucrat…..for the EMPIRE to make their life easier.

    Particularly in the 19th century, twenty-nine Armenians were granted the highest governmental rank of Pashas.

    • There were twenty-two Armenian ministers in Ottoman Administration, including the Ministers of Foreign Affairs,

    Finance, Treasury, Trade and Post, with other Armenians holding high positions at the departments in charge of agriculture, economic development, and the census.

    • There also were thirty-three Armenian representatives appointed and elected to the Ottoman Parliament, seven ambassadors, eleven consuls-general and consuls, eleven university professors, and forty-one other officials of high rank.

    • In the beginning of the twentieth century, during the Balkan Wars, Mr. Gabriel Noradukyan, an Ottoman Armenian, served as the Foreign Minister of the Ottoman Empire.

    • Agop Kazakyan served as the Minister of Finance and Sakiz Ohannes Pasha as the Minister of Treasury.

    • lyas Çayan Efendi was the President of the Council of State.

    • Osgan Mardikyan was the Minister of Communication.

    • Ohannes Ferit Efendi (Van), Ohannes Asasyan (Elaziz, L. Ayciyan ve Ant Billoryan (Erzurum) served as the Deputy Governors in the eastern provinces of Turkey.

    THE LIST OF THE ARMENIAN BUREUCRATS AND CIVIL SERVANTS IN THE LATE OTTOMAN ERA:

    THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

    Gabriel Noradukyan (Minister of Foreign Affairs in 1912) Ohannes Kuyumcuyan (Deputy Undersecretary in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs between 1909 and 1913)

    DEPUTY COUNSELLORS ON LEGAL AFFAIRS IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

    Edvar Bey(until 1908) Hirant Bey Abro (until 1917)

    CONSULS AND DIPLOMATS

    Hrant Düz (Messina/Italy)

    Hovsep Misakyan Efendi (The Hague/Netherlands)

    Ohannes Magakyan Efendi (Deputy Consul/Oziçe-Serbia)

    Mihran Kavafyan Efendi (Consul General/France)(in 1907 Counsellor – Plenipotentiary/ Belgium)

    Sekip Efendi (First Secretary Berlin/Germany)

    Harutyun Markaryan Efendi(First Secretary/Belgrade)

    Hovsep Azaryan Efendi (Consul General/Malta)

    Sarkis Balyan Efendi (Consul Bari/Italy)

    Dikran Hünkarbegendiyan (Deputy Consul Odessa/Russia)

    Levon Bey Yeremyan (Second Secretary/Paris)

    Diran Bey Dadyan (Second Secretary/Brussels)

    Levon Bey Yeremyan (Second Secretary/Paris)

    Minas Yeram Efendi (Deputy Consul /Zanta)

    Ohannes Nafilyan Efendi (Deputy Consul /Tbilisi)

    Hrant Bey Noradukyan (Deputy Consul /Galaç-Romania)

    Arsen Efendi (Deputy Consul/Newcastle/Britain Patras/Greece)

    MINISTRY OF TREASURY

    Sakiz Ohannes Pasha (Minister, between the years 1897 and 1908)

    MINISTRY OF FINANCE

    Agop Kazakyan (Minister).

    They have betrayed their own Empire State…

    The OTTOMAN EMPIRE was their own state too like Turks and they have backtabbed the Turks when all the Turkish men in the 14 fronts and fighting against the Allies…

    -How many Armenians have been killed?

    1.750.000 ?

    1.500.000 or 800.000 or 350.000?

    Noone knows but just telling lies..

    Why don’t you send an email and ask the Armenian Genocide Museum if they have a single original document about the genocide in the whole museum.

    Hayk Demoyan

    director@genocide-museum.am

    Suren Manukyan-

    science@genocide-museum.am

    British and French/Italian/Greek ,Russian and even USA armies occupied Istanbul and 4/5 of Turkey after 1WW and Armenian authorities searched and read all the archieved documents for 4 years..

    They have taken 144 people in and send them to Malta to judge as “So-called Armenian Genocide Suspects”..

    What happened then?

    Brits released them all after 3 years of investigation in Turkish Ottoman Archieves..

    Because they saw the realities and the Truths..

    The deception of the LIAR-menians ,now continues for 93 years, 2 months, and 27 days.

    The other side of the FALSIFIED GENOCIDE

    please visit http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/ to have more information.I know you will never do that but you have to know the Truth and the Genocide of the TRUTHS by LIAR-menians..

    There are thousands of Armenian web sites telling their story of inferiority agaist Turks.But there is only one website from the Turks make them mad.Why ?

    Why Armenian storytellers yelling this much .

    Let me tell you.

    If you are not familiar with this “”armenian fairy tale”” and read

    www.tallarmeniantale.com web site first other thousands zillions billions websites of “”funny armenian storytellers””look like Charlie Chaplin’s silent movies.

    A lot of actions but no sound.

    They all know that during Ottoman and Turks period of nearly 2000years in anatolia,Armenian anatolians were the number one important people to the sultans even more important than Turks.

    Because they are christians in a great community of moslems so they should be protected safely.This ended in the 1.world war.

    Armenian idiots united with Russian and French armies wore their uniforms and started killing moslems everywhere they found weak.

    Yes ottoman Turks were fighting with English,French,Italian,Greek,Russian and Arab armies in 14different fronts from Iran border to Libya,from Rumania to yemen.

    but armenians opened another front and killed Turks on their backs.

    Ottoman officials decided to deport them.On the ways they died because of that time’s misery and some small fights with dome kurdish tribes etc .

    Nobody killed them planned it is a terrible lie.

    All christian world knows this but all christian world has hypocratic face and dinayed this reality with cold blood.

    Even Armenian diaspora knows the truth but they are in a position to sell this “”so called fairy tale””for their future and never giveup.

    Poor armenian people in Armenia is very busy with this tale and forgotten all their daily needs and keep living in powerty and the government of Armenia is cheating their own people with using this instrument to rule them.

    of course armenian merchants of “”so called tale sellers””are not feeling comfortable in their seats.

    They realised that Turks left their old politics of “”silence” ” ; ;and started to show their real faces.

    They opened their all files of 2billios papers to all the historians and demanded the same thing from Armenian government.

    They refused to show even one document and they were right.

    Because if they open their files all the world historians will come and see the vodvils of the armenian story tellers and start fooling them .

    This is the all story.

    Other stories need proofs and they have none:))

    See their Case to European Court of Justice and the VERDICT of the Court below..

    C-18/04 P – Krikorian and Others [Case closed]

    Main proceedings

    Order – 29/10/2004 – Krikorian and Others

    Case C-18/04 P

    Reports of Cases

    Not published

    (Appeal Case before the General Court T-346/03)

    Proceedings for interim measures 1

    Order – 13/09/2004 – Krikorian and Others

    Case C-18/04 P

    Reports of Cases

    Not published

    (Appeal Case before the General Court T-346/03)

    http://www.topix.com/forum/world/

    armenia/TECB6U60MI5SPA8NN/p9#l astPost

    WHAT DID EUROPEAN COURT OF JUSTICE SAY?

    WHAT WAS THE VERDICT OF THE COURT ABOUT GENOCIDE ALLEGATIONS?

    “””European Court of Justice””” ” decided to reject

    Liarmenian Trial attempsts

    2 times in 2003

    and 2004

    with the reason of

    NO EVIDENTS NO PROOFS ALL POLITIC DECISIONS AND POLITICAL DECISIONS MAY BE CHANGED WITH EVERY NEW ELECTED PARLIEMENTS.

    17 December 2003.

    Trial Case nr.T-346/03

    Chancellor

    H.Jung

    President

    B.Vesterhoff

    Judge.

    P.Mengozzi

    Judge.E.Riberio

    Accuser.Name .

    Gregorie Kirkorian

    Suzanne Kirkorian

    European Union Of Armenian

    16 January 2004

    Trial Case Nr.of the Supreme Court of the European Court Of Justice was C-18/04

    If you are an puppet player and all the poor armenians are your puppets would you be happy .

  • H.Res.296, “Affirming the United States record on the Armenian G enocide”  ERGUN KIRLIKOVALI

    H.Res.296, “Affirming the United States record on the Armenian G enocide” ERGUN KIRLIKOVALI

    , Ergun kirlikovali<ergun >

    Just sent the following letter to the members of the House Committee on Rules, the US Congress.

    From: Ergun
    Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:46 PM
    To: jennifer.chandler ; james.decker ; josh.grogis ; betsyarnoldmarr ; patricia.williams ; matthew.simon ; nick.weatherbee ; danielle.radovich ; julie.tagen ; roddy.flynn ; jessica.killin ; james.cho

    Subject: Please vote “NO!” on H.Res.296 – the alleged Armenian genocide is racist and dishonest history

    To : The Distinguished Members of the House Committee on Rules, the US Congress.

    Re : H.Res.296, “Affirming the United States record on the Armenian Genocide”

    Date: 27 October 2019

    Dear Honorable Representatives:

    I will not beat around the bush: The alleged Armenian genocide is based on a racist and dishonest

    interpretation of WWI history.

    If H..Res.296 is approved, it would be a blow to the credibility of the U.S. around the globe, for

    legislating history scholarship for political gain. Would you want history to remember you as politicians

    who undermined the history scholarship in America?

    Please vote “NO!” on H.Res.296.

    I will not take up your valuable time by reminding you how…

    • valuable a strategic partner to the U.S and reliable NATO ally Turkey is;
    • the Turkish Operation Peace Spring helped the U.S. finally kill the long-wanted, notorious IS-terrorist

    Bagdadi in Syria,

    • the timing of this repetitive and antiquated resolution fielded by the Armenian lobby is based on

    mis-informed anger at Turkey’s self-defense, anti-terror operation in Syria,

    as you already know all that.

    I will remind you, though, that the alleged Armenian genocide is based on a racist history because it dismisses

    Turkish suffering at the hands of Armenian revolutionaries and dishonest because it ignores the

    six T’s of the Turkish-Armenian conflict:

    1) Tumult : Numerous violent Armenian armed uprisings,1862-1920 (See Esat Uras);

    2) Terrorism: Armenian terrorism victimizing Ottoman-Muslims (1860-1922, See Louise Nalbandian);

    3) Treason: Armenian turncoats joining the invading enemy armies (1877-1922, See Justin McCarthy);

    4) Territorial Demands: In regions where Armenians were a minority trying to establish the first apartheid

    of the 20th Century (1877-1922, See Kamuran Gurun.)

    5) Turkish Suffering And Losses : More than 3 million Muslims, mostly Turks, died during WWI;

    1.1 million of them in Eastern Anatolia alone—half a million of them at the hands of Armenian

    revolutionaries (1914-1918, see Kemal Cicek)

    6) TERESET : Temporary Resettlement order of May 31, 1915. Triggered by the first five T’s above

    and amply documented as such; not to be equated to the Armenian misrepresentations as genocide

    (See Yusuf Halacoglu.)

    If the above objective evidence, readily supplied by honest history, does not quench your thirst for the truth,

    then maybe this does:

    The highest court in Europe, the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR ), decided in 2013 and then again

    upon appeal in 2015, that the alleged Armenian genocide is an opinion, not a court verdict,

    as such it cannot be held equal to Holocaust. Moreover, since it is an unproven opinion, it can be criticized and

    rejected and doing so would be an act of exercise of freedom of speech. The reason why ECHR, after painstaking

    scrutiny, decided that genocide was just an opinion, was because the judges noted that the Armenian narrative

    lacked historical substantiation, because it ignored Armenian armed uprisings, violent revolts, ruthless terrorism,

    cowardly treason, greedy territorial demands, and the resulting Turkish suffering at the hands of Armenian

    revolutionaries. In other words, the alleged Armenian Genocide narrative left half the story out. Forcing such a

    distorted, exaggerated, and misrepresented narrative down the throats of unsuspecting public may be possible

    with propaganda and advocacy, but such efforts are useless at a court of law where the other side of the story

    must be heard.

    What the people need more than anything in today’s explosive world is honest research, reasoned debate, and

    civilized dialogue; not name-calling, deception, demonization, polarization, and bad resolutions.

    I hope you will do the right thing.

    Peace.

    Ergun Kirlikovali

    Son of Turkish Survivors of Balkan Wars of 1912

    Student of history for 41 years specializing in Turkish-Armenian conflict

    9741 Irvine Center Drive, Irvine, CA 92618

    Cell phone: 949-878-1186

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    PS: As a student of history, specializing on the Turkish-Armenian conflict, I am at your

    service, in-person, on-call, or in-writing, to answer any questions you may have.

    Thank you for seeking the truth.

  • Texas House Resolution HR-191: Anatomy of A Shameful Armenian “Genocide” Resolution

    ferruh demirmen

    By Ferruh Demirmen, Ph.D.

    2105 atexas

    July 18, 2017

     

    Years of Turkish apathy and passivity, combined with Armenian aggressiveness and Western prejudice, took their toll earlier this year when the Texas House of Representatives voted to recognize Armenian “genocide.” It happened on May 19, 2017, and the Turkish side was at a disadvantage all along.

     

    Groundwork by Armenian lobby

     

    Texas, the second largest U.S. state, had long been a coveted target for the Armenian lobby in the U.S. Until 2015, all efforts to have Armenian “genocide” recognized by Texas had failled. In 2015, on the centennial of the 1915 events in Ottoman Anatolia, the lobby’s California-based Western arm, ANCA-WR (Armenian National Committe of America – Western Region) set its eyes on Texas for the recognition of Armenian “genocide.” Tours involving Armenian activists at town-hall meetings were arranged, State elected officials were individually visited, and the Dallas, Austin and Houston chapters of ANCA-WR were established. Visits to Armenian churches were part of the activities.

     

    Equally significantly, in 2016 the lobby supported State Representative Scott Sanford, who is also the Executive Pastor of a Baptist church in Texas. At a gala organized by ANCA-Dallas in April 2016, Representative Sanford was awarded “Advocate for Justice Award” for his “strong dedication to raising awareness about the Armenian Genocide.” In response, Rep. Sanford outlined his plan of action for official recognition of Armenian “genocide” by the Texas legislature.

     

    It was a quid-pro-quo arrangement, and Christian solidarity no doubt entered the equation.

     

    There were few other Texas politicians supporting Armenians at the gala, and a letter from U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, who had previously called for recognition of the “genocide of Armenian, Assyrian and other Christians,” was read. ANCA Executive Director Aram Hamparian talked as well, advocating “genocide “recognition and briefing the audience on Congressional efforts to isolate Azerbaijan. He condemned the killing of “Christian Armenians” by ISIS. (Notice the adjective “Christian.” Also no mention of other victims!).

     

    One wonders whether the Texas politicians present at the gala knew of the fact that a predecessor of Hamparian, former ANCA president Mourad Topalian, was convicted in 2011 on charges of illegally storing explosives and owning machine guns. Topalian served almost 3 years in federal prison. He was a guest of honor at a gala held in 2015 by ANCA-WR in California.

     

    Promise fulfilled

     

    As soon as the 2017 biennial legislative session for the Texas House of Representatives began, Rep. Sanford fulfilled his promise, and on January 26, 2017, introduced Texas HR-191, a resolution recognizing Armenian “genocide.”

     

    A one-page statement claimed that during World War I the Ottoman Empire had  began a “systematic campaign to eradicate its Armenian population,” that on April 24, 1915, the government had arrested several hundred Armenian intellectuals, who were later “executed,” that the Armenian population had been herded through the “Syrian desert to concentration camps,” that through 1923 as many as “1.5 million Armenians,” had perished, that the event is considered genocide by most historians, and that world must never forget the suffering of the Armenian people. Reference was made to then-American Ambassador Henry Morgenthau.

     

    It was the well-versed Armenian version of history.

     

    Lack of impartiality

     

    For processing, HR-191 was assigned to the Trade & Intergovernmental Affairs Committee (TIAC), which called for a public hearing at the State Capitol in Austin on April 24.

     

    The choice of April 24 for the public hearing, a date considered symbolic for the Armenian allegations, was the first sign that TIAC was pro-Armenian in its outlook.

     

    The hearing was closely coordinated with ANCA-WR and Rep. Sanford, and while the Armenian side had long known about the hearing, the Turkish side knew of the meeting less than a week in advance.

     

    With very short notice, only 6 persons from the Turkish side (5 from Houston and one from Dallas) could attend the hearing in Austin. In contrast, a large crowd from the Armenian side was present. Also present, as an “observor,” was Rep. Sanford.

     

    Four persons from the Turkish side (including this author) signed up to give testimony, two of the testimonies being very short. In contrast, 21 persons from the Armenian side signed up to give testimony. Before the hearing started, it was known exactly how many speakers there would be from each side. With the Committee Chairman allowing equal time to each speaker, the Armenian side ended up having 5 times more chance to present its case than the Turkish side.

     

    Thus the Armenian side dominated not only in terms of “presence” in the hearing room, but also in the testimonies given.

     

    During the testimonies the Turkish side objected that it was given a short notice for the hearing, to which the Committee Chairman responded the one-week notice was standard practice. The Turkish side wondered why Rep. Sanford, while not a member of the Committee, was invited to attend. The Committee Chairman responded that he invited Rep. Sanford because the latter was his friend, and he respected him.

     

    The Turkish side also noted that the scheduling of the public hearing on April 24 compromised the impartiality of the committee. There was no response to this comment.

     

    The questions asked by the Committee members during the testimonies left no doubt that they were sympathetic toward the Armenian allegations. When this author tried to show a panel showing the photographs of Turkish diplomats assasinated by Armenian terrorists, he was told his time is over.

     

    Evidentiary input

     

    It is not known what evidence the Armenian side provided to the Texas politicians to buttress their genocide allegations. During the April 24 hearing, however, the Armenian side had plenty of opportunity to give oral arguments to support its case. ANCA-WR had aggresively lobbied for the passage of HR-191, and hundreds of letters were e-mailed to state legislators. Many more phone calls were made by the Armenian community.

     

    The first speaker at the hearing, who identified himself as being affilated with ANCA-WR, began his testimony by citing the infamous – and fictitious – “Hitler quote.” Among those who testified for the Armenian side were representatives from the Texas Holocaust and Genocide Commission, and Houston’s Holocaust Museum.

     

    The Turkish side, including several grassroots organizations, rebutted the Armenian allegations through e-mails and orally during the testimonies. Evidence provided included, but not limited to, the Armenian uprising, collusion with the invading Russian army, the Muslim sufferings and casualties, the Kachaznuni manifesto, the Malta Tribunal, Ambassador Morgenthau’s extreme bias, the League of Nations report, General J.G. Harbord and Admiral Mark L. Bristol reports, the 1948 UN Convention, the rulings of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) and France’s Constitutional Council, impropriety of Texas legislators to intervene in matters affecting U.S. foreign policy, the damage the bill could do to trade relations between Texas and Turkey, the divisive aspect of the resolution, and not the least, the fact that the resolution is defamatory toward Texas residents of Turkish heritage.

     

    The aftermath

     

    After the public hearing, TIAC approved HR-191 unanimously and sent it to the House floor for voting. By this time there were 46 representatives who had already endorsed the motion. On May 19, the House, having 150 members, voted to adopt the motion, making the Lone Star State the 46th U.S. state to recognize Armenian “genocide.” Eight members were absent, and 5 including the Speaker abstained from voting. (ANCA website called it “unanimous” approval).

     

    It was a feat masterminded by ANCA-WR and endorsed by the Texas House of Representatives. While the resolution has no legal force, for all practical purposes, and for the public at large, it was a declaration finding Ottoman Turks guilty of a heinous crime.

     

    Conclusion

     

    It can safely be concluded that the Texas politicians that voted to adopt HR-191 were either astonishingly ignorant or didn’t care about the historical truth, while being in breach of a UN convention, mindless of European court rulings, and at the same time impinging on the right of the federal govenment on matters related to foreign policy.

     

    The highly detailed documentary evidence provided by the Turkish side, assuming it was read at all, didn’t make any difference for the politicians.

     

    That the party, declared “guilty” by fiat, was denied its due-process rights, did not matter.

     

    On display was an example of what this author has termed the “Armenian Settled History Syndrome”: The proclivity in the West, the media and politicians included, to accept Armenian allegations as facts without entertaining opposing or contervailing arguments. https://www.turkishnews.com/en/content/2015/02/10/armenian-settled-history-syndrome-an-affliction-that-runs-deep-in-the-media/

     

    Although an objective criterion is missing, there seems little doubt that the Turkish response, at least at the grassroots level, to HR-191 was feeble. It is not the numbers (populations of residents of Turkish and Armenian origin in Texas, roughly 15,000, are similar), but the level of interest. Turks are no match to Armenians on activism on the “genocide” issue – a situation that is deeply rooted in the Turkish educational system, reflecting the “peace at home, peace abroad” dictum of the republic founded by Kemal Atatürk.

     

    Given the unending offensive from the Armenian Diaspora, also supported by Yerevan, the dictum has outlived its usefulness in relation to the Turkish-Armenian relations, and the Turkish side has only itself to blame for its lethargy and passivity.

     

    In this context it is particularly telling that ATA-Houston, an association formed to represent the Turkish-American community in Houston – a city with a population of 2.3 million – didn’t bother to oppose HR-191. The happy-hour-conscious association, founded in 1979, was not interested in the Armenian issue – a posture that transpired within the past 2 years, it must be added.

     

    But the Turkish side also suffered a disadvantage which it could not help: the built-in prejudice, rooted in history and religion. In a sense, the cards were set against the Turkish side on HR-191. What made the Texas outcome particularly distateful for the Turkish side was the lack of impartiality on the part of the committee (TIAC) that handled the proposed bill before it went to the House floor for voting.

     

    On the subject of prejudice, Professor Justin McCarthy’s incisive work, “The Turk in America: The Creation of an Enduring Prejudice,” (2010), comes to mind. Thanks to Christian missionaries, the villification of Ottoman Turks in America in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries – and an anti-Muslim sentiment in general – still resonate in the minds of many in our time, amounting to a hidden form of discrimination.

     

    Paranthetically, it should also be added that the Texas voting roughly corresponded with negative media reports in the U.S. about the Turkish government in connection with President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s visit to Washington D.C. on May 16, 2017. Whether the negative publicity, related to Erdoğan’s security detail, affected the HR-191 voting, is unknown.

    In all, the Texas politicians should now ask: What did Texas gain from this resolution? Any claim that it was about valuing human life, is a farce. Separate from the claim of grotesquely exaggerated 1.5 million Armenian losses during the 1915 relocation, the souls of some 520,000 Muslim civilians that were brutally murdered by armed Armenian bands during those tumultuous times cry out for recognition as well. History cannot be reduced to campaign-driven declarations that cater to religious and ethnic prejudices.