Tag: Nagorno-Karabakh

  • Ex-Ministers Downbeat On Turkish-Armenian Deal

    Ex-Ministers Downbeat On Turkish-Armenian Deal

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    Vartan Oskanian

    17.04.2009
    Emil Danielyan

    Two former foreign ministers of Armenia remained pessimistic on Friday about the success of the ongoing Turkish-Armenian dialogue, urging the current authorities in Yerevan to reconsider their diplomatic overtures to Ankara.

    A top U.S. official, meanwhile, visited Armenia in what may have been an attempt to salvage the faltering talks between the two neighboring nations. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Bryza met with President Serzh Sarkisian and Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian. Official Armenian sources gave no details of the talks, and Bryza was not available for comment.

    The diplomat, who is also the U.S. co-chair of the OSCE Minsk Group, arrived in Yerevan from Baku where he met Azerbaijani Foreign Minister Elmar Mammadyarov. Washington has been trying to neutralize Azerbaijan’s strong resistance to the normalization of Turkish-Armenian relations before a peaceful settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. U.S. President Barack Obama personally discussed the matter with his Azerbaijani counterpart, Ilham Aliev, in a phone call last week.

    The vehement Azerbaijani protests led Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to publicly state earlier this month that Turkey will not establish diplomatic relations and open its border with Armenia without a Karabakh settlement. Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan appeared to echo that linkage as he flew to Yerevan on Wednesday night.

    “We don’t say, ‘Let’s first solve one problem and solve the other later,’” Babacan was reported to tell Turkish journalists. “We want a similar process to start between Azerbaijan and Armenia. We are closely watching the talks between Azerbaijan and Armenia.”

    Nalbandian insisted on Thursday, however, that Ankara and Yerevan could still hammer out a ground-breaking agreement “soon.” Two of his predecessors are far more pessimistic on that score, pointing to the statements made by Erdogan.

    “I don’t anticipate the signing of a Turkish-Armenian agreement in the near future,” one of them, Raffi Hovannisian, said. He was particularly worried about Erdogan’s calls for the UN Security Council to denounce Armenia as an “occupier” and demand Karabakh’s return under Azerbaijani rule.

    Vartan Oskanian, who served as foreign minister from 1998-2008, likewise suggested that the Turks have no intention to cut an unconditional deal with Armenia and are instead trying to exploit the talks to keep the United States and other countries from recognizing the 1915 massacres of Armenians as genocide. He said they could also be pressing international mediators to seek more Armenian concessions on Karabakh in return for an open border with Turkey.

    “When you make a Turkish-Armenian dialogue public, the Turks always take advantage of that because they face the genocide issue, the issue of European Union membership and the issue of friendship with Azerbaijan,” Oskanian told a news conference. “So publicity here, if we let it last for long, is not to our benefit. With every day passing without border opening or normalization of Turkish-Armenian relations, Turkey finds itself in a more beneficial position than Armenia.

    “The moment that the border is opened, we too will start to draw dividends. The question is when that will happen.”

    “The Armenian side should set a clear deadline for the Turks — if we sign an agreement and the border is opened on a particular day, it will be fine; if not, let us interrupt the negotiations from that day. Something has to be done,” added Oskanian.

    Oskanian also seemed puzzled by President Sarkisian’s assurances that Armenia will “emerge stronger” from the U.S.-backed talks even if they end in failure. “I hope that there is something that the president knows but we don’t know,” he said.

    The former minister, who founded last year a private think-tank, the Civilitas Foundation, spoke to journalists before an official presentation of a newly published book containing speeches delivered by him throughout his decade-long tenure. Among those attending the event was Kaan Soyak, the Turkish co-chairman of the Turkish-Armenian Business Council (TABC) that has long been lobbying for improved relations and unfettered commerce between the two neighbors.

    Soyak asserted that Erdogan’s remarks were “a little misunderstood” in Armenia and did not wreck the Turkish-Armenian rapprochement. “What the prime minister wanted to say is that the normalization of relations between Armenia and Turkey is very important and within the context of this normalization Turkish diplomats and Turkish foreign policy advisers will be more active in the Caucasus for the settlement between Armenia and Azerbaijan,” he told RFE/RL.

    “He never set a precondition,” said Soyak. “He believes that all the solutions must be in one package, which includes Azerbaijan and Armenia, but not necessarily the Nagorno-Karabakh area.”

    https://www.azatutyun.am/a/1610916.html

  • Armenia, Turkey Announce No Deal After Yerevan Talks

    Armenia, Turkey Announce No Deal After Yerevan Talks

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    Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian and Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan meet in Yerevan on April 16, 2009

    16.04.2009
    Ruben Meloyan

    Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan gave no indications of an impending breakthrough in his country’s relations with Armenia on Thursday as he visited Yerevan to attend a meeting of the Black Sea Economic Cooperation (BSEC) organization.

    His Armenian counterpart, Eduard Nalbandian, insisted, nonetheless, that Ankara and Yerevan may still normalize their historically strained relations “soon.”

    Babacan refrained from making any public statements during the one-day trip which ended with a meeting with President Serzh Sarkisian. A short statement by Sarkisian’s office gave no details of the talks. Babacan also took part in a separate group meeting between Sarkisian and participants of the BSEC session.

    While in Yerevan, Babacan also met with Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Azerbaijan’s Deputy Foreign Minister Mahmud Mamedguliev.

    Recent reports in Turkish and Western media said that the two governments could use the BSEC meeting to announce agreement on a gradual normalization of Turkish-Armenian relations. However, Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has ruled out such possibility, repeatedly stating this month that Ankara will not establish diplomatic relations with Yerevan and reopen the Turkish-Armenian border before a resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Babacan appeared to reaffirm that linkage as he spoke to CNN-Turk television on his way to Yerevan. According to “Hurriyet Daily News,” he said the Turkish-Armenian dialogue must run parallel with international efforts to settle the Karabakh conflict.

    “Today we have no intention to sign any document regarding the normalization of Turkish-Armenian relations,” Nalbandian told journalists after the BSEC meeting. “Negotiations continue. We have made progress and believe that we can really be very close to solving those issues soon.”

    Nalbandian also made clear that Yerevan remains opposed to direct Turkish involvement in international efforts to settle the Karabakh dispute. “Turkey will not play the role of a mediator in the Karabakh peace process,” he said.

    The Armenian minister was speaking at a joint news conference with Mamedguliev, whose country assumed the BSEC’s rotating presidency from Armenia at the Yerevan meeting. Mamedguliev, a rare Azerbaijani official visiting Armenia, reaffirmed Baku’s strong opposition to the normalization of Turkish-Armenian before Karabakh peace. “Our position is the following: the restoration of links between Turkey and Armenia may only be conditional on the resolution of the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan,” he said.

    By contrast, Lavrov welcomed the Turkish-Armenian rapprochement. “First of all, this is the bilateral affair of Armenia and Turkey,” he said after the talks with Babacan. “We welcome all steps leading to the normalization of relations between any countries of the region.”

    http://www.armenialiberty.org/content/article/1610097.html 
  • DID PRESIDENT SARGSYAN BLAZE A TRAIL TO THE SEA VIA IRAN?

    DID PRESIDENT SARGSYAN BLAZE A TRAIL TO THE SEA VIA IRAN?

    Haroutiun Khachatrian 4/15/09

    Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan’s two-day visit to Iran produced a potential breakthrough deal that could ease Armenia’s economic isolation.

    Sargsyan and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad signed eight agreements during the Armenian leader’s two-day stay in Tehran on April 13-14. Two of those pacts stand to give a big boost to Armenian foreign trade. The first provides a blueprint for the construction of a 470-kilometer railroad between the two countries and the second would lower Iranian trade barriers to Armenian exports.

    At present, Armenia’s only viable overland routes to the outside world run through Georgia. That conduit has proven unreliable for Yerevan in recent years, though, given the long-running tension between Russia and Georgia. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive]. Turkey and Azerbaijan currently maintain an economic blockade against Armenia, and although there has been much talk lately of a re-opening of the Turkish-Armenian frontier, the normalization of Turkish-Armenian ties, as well as a political settlement to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, do not appear imminent. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive].

    The proposed outlet to Iran would not bring immediate economic benefits to Armenia. Under terms of an agreement finalized April 15 by the transport ministers of Armenia and Iran, construction of the railway would take an estimated five years, and cost upwards of $1.8 billion. The first stage of the construction process involves a feasibility study, which is due to be completed by the end of the summer.

    Almost seven-eighths of the railway would lie on Armenian territory, stretching from the northern city of Sevan to Meghri on the Iranian border. The question of financing evidently was not addressed during Sargsyan’s Iran visit.

    In another potentially significant deal, the two countries agreed to cooperation on the construction of a hydropower station on the Arax River.

    One political analyst, Garnik Asatrian, an Iranian studies expert at the Yerevan State University, characterized President Sargsyan’s visit as a “historic step” for Armenia. But other experts were more circumspect. The global economic downturn, they emphasized, makes it impossible to say whether promises made today can be fulfilled tomorrow. Alexander Iskandarian, the director of the Caucasus Institute in Yerevan, pointed out that already some erstwhile financial heavyweights in the Caucasus, especially Russia, are now finding it difficult to come up with the cash to meet assistance obligations. “Some previously adopted programs are now short of money,” he told EurasiaNet.

    Sevak Sarykhanan, an expert with the Noravank Foundation, a Yerevan-based think tank, suggested that the Iranian rail project is, in effect, an insurance policy for Yerevan. If the Turkish-Armenian border reopens in the near future, then Yerevan would have rail access to the Middle East and Gulf regions via the existing Gyumri-Kars rail link. In that case, the Sevan-Meghri-Iran rail route would not make financial sense.

     

    Editor’s Note: Haroutiun Khachatrian is a freelance writer based in Yerevan.

  • Joint statement of Azerbaijani and Turkish MPs in Milli Majlis

    Joint statement of Azerbaijani and Turkish MPs in Milli Majlis

     

     
     

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    Baku. Elbrus Seyfullayev – APA. Azerbaijani and Turkish parliamentarians held a forum entitled “Turkey Azerbaijan: joint interests and problems” in Milli Majlis, (Azerbaijani Parliament), APA reports.

    Members of the Turkish parliament Yilmaz Atesh, Shukry Elekdagh, Shahin Mengu from the Republican People’s Party (CHP), Attila Kaya, Turna Chirkin from the National Movement Party (MHP), as well as MHP Deputy Secretary General Bulent Didinmez and Mahammad Azeri attended the forum.

    Leaders of the Azerbaijan’s Ana Vatan (Motherland), Citizen Solidarity, All Azerbaijan Popular Front, Great System and Justice Party, organizers of the forum, as well as members of the parliament from New Azerbaijan and Musavat parties and independent parliamentarians also joined the meeting.

    MP, Chairman of Ana Vatan Party Fazail Aghamali said the forum was organized for discussing of issues cooling relations between Azerbaijan and Turkey. He said Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) also agreed to attend the meeting, but then they didn’t come to Baku unfortunately. Aghamali said the AKP officials didn’t explain the reasons of their refusal to join the forum.

    He noted that if Turkey opens borders with Armenia before the liberation of occupied Azerbaijani lands, there will be no difference between Turkey and Russia and Iran for Azerbaijan. “It is impossible to speak about the stability in the South Caucasus until the liberation of Nagorno Karabakh”.

    Turkish MP from CHP Shukru Elekdagh said Turkey wanted peace, security and welfare in the South Caucasus. He reminded that Turkey closed its borders with Armenia in 1993 because of Armenia’s invasion in Azerbaijan. He said Armenia refused to fulfill US resolutions about withdrawal of its forces from the occupied Azerbaijani lands. “If the borders are opened in this situation, it will be impossible to liberate Karabakh. Turkey can’t do it. 95 percent of Turkish community doesn’t want this”.

    Elekdagh said Armenia had problems not only with Azerbaijan, but other countries in the region and reminded about the Armenia’s territorial claims against Georgia and Turkey as well.

    Chairman of Great System Party, MP Fazil Mustafa also noted that loss of Karabakh means Turkey’s losses in the South Caucasus. “Turkey must be interested in closing of its borders”. The lawmaker said they could sign a statement as a result of the meeting and describe the context of the forum.

    Turkish MP from MHP Attila Kaya said they wanted AKP representatives to attend the forum. He said public communities of both countries were protesting the opening of Turkey-Armenia borders and it gave a result. Speaking about the history of friendship between the two countries, A. Kaya noted that one should approach equally to all the problems of Turkic world and jointly take part in their solutions.

    Chairman of Civil Solidarity Party, MP Sabir Rustamkhanli proposed to often conduct such meetings between Turkish and Azerbaijani parliamentarians: “We have been talking about the establishment of Parliamentary Assembly of Trukic countries for 16 years. Despite it has been established, but does nothing at all. If this organization functioned well, such situation would not emerge”.

    Acting rector of Turkish Giresun University, Azerbaijani Professor Aygun Attar noted that AKP representatives did not join this meeting. According to the professor, Armenians do not give up their genocide claims even in the time when the talks are conducted between Turkey and Armenia at present.

    Chairman of United Azerbaijan Popular Front Party, MP Gudrat Hasanguliyev noted that Azerbaijan was seriously concerned about the reports on opening of Turkey-Armenia borders: “We are told that Karabakh problem remains unsolved for 16 years. The policy should be changed. It’s not right. The United States committed the biggest genocide in the world. First, they should recognize the genocides they have committed, then let them demand it from Turkey”.

    Statement was made at the end of the forum. The statement was signed by 11 parties of Turkey and Azerbaijan. The statement says that the forum participants conducted detailed and productive discussions over the issue that Turkish and Azerbaijani communities are concerned about. It was reaffirmed that historical, national, religious and economic relations uniting Turkey and Azerbaijan to each other are of sustainable and constant character: “Both communities are very concerned about the spread of recent speculations on intensity of negotiations between Turkey and Armenia, establishment of diplomatic relations and opening of borders. Communities of both countries demonstrated unanimous position against this. The forum participants stressed the importance of demonstrating common position in Nagorno Karabakh, so-called “Armenian genocide”, PKK terror, North Cyprus issues”.

    The statement also reads that responsible authorities, political parties and NGOs of both countries should conduct constant consultations and joint meetings in the solutions of any problems henceforth.

  • Novruz Mammadov on opening of borders

    Novruz Mammadov on opening of borders

    Baku. Lachin Sultanova – APA. “There is principally no problem in holding of negotiations for the opening of borders between Turkey and Armenia.

    We expressed our position. I think turkey also understands our position. These processes concern us because it is going on in the South Caucasus”, Chief of the International Relations Department of the President’s Office Novruz Mammadov exclusively told APA.

    Mammadov noted that it would be better if the process was carried out by other means. “It would be within the interests of both Turkey and Azerbaijan and would assist the establishing of peace, stability and cooperation in the South Caucasus. The last statements of Turkish authorities showed that they also understand the issue and are taking the Azerbaijan’s position into consideration. They are stating, and we are also considering that Turkey and Armenia have to establish relationship. We are not against the opening of borders, but we demand the issue to be solved more correctly, within the conditions postulated by the Turkish authorities in the early days of our independence. These conditions were made by Turgut Ozal, Suleyman Demirel, Ahmet Necdet Sezer and the Turkey’s present leadership. The issue must be solved within these conditions (Armenia must leave its territorial and “genocide” claims against Turkey and must withdraw its forces from the occupied Azerbaijani lands- editor’s comment). The question is about that”.

    The department chief said no one could damage the friendship, brotherhood and strategic partnership relations between Turkey and Azerbaijan.
    “These peoples are brothers, fraternal states. The relations between our countries were formed for centuries,” he said.
    Asked whether the issue would be discussed during President Ilham Aliyev’s visit to Moscow on April 16, Novruz Mammadov said as it was a working visit, it was impossible to express concrete opinion.
    “Azerbaijan and Russia will exchange views on the issues of mutual interest, prospects of bilateral cooperation,” he said.

    Novruz Mammadov said Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev had not made up his mind yet to accept the offer of OSCE Minsk Group co-chairs to meet with Armenian president Serzh Sarkisian in Prague.

  • The Turkish-Armenian Thaw and Azerbaijan

    The Turkish-Armenian Thaw and Azerbaijan

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    Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev has criticized the Turkish-Armenian rapprochement

    April 14, 2009
    By Abbas Djavadi

    U.S. President Barack Obama’s recent visit was a big boost for Turkey. But a Turkish-Armenian rapprochement was in the works even before Obama was elected president.

    Now Baku is upset that Ankara and Yerevan are about to formalize a deal sidelining Azerbaijanis’ main concern: restoring sovereignty over Nagorno-Karabakh and the surrounding regions of Azerbaijan that have been occupied by Armenian forces since early the 1990s. Are the days when both Turks and Azeris used to say they were “one nation with two state” gone for ever?

    Ankara and Yerevan intensified their negotiations in August 2007 when their diplomats started to regularly meet in Geneva to discuss the details of establishing “good-neighborly” relations. Once the “technical preparation” was almost complete, President Abdullah Gul’s visit to Yerevan in September last year to attend a Turkish-Armenian soccer match, and the meeting between Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan in January 2009 on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos signaled the political will of both sides to proceed.

    Diplomats have confirmed to the Turkish media that Baku was not only fully informed about the progress and details of those talks, but even “in agreement” with the way Ankara has been approaching the rapprochement issue.

    Dozens of rounds of talks between the Turkish and Azerbaijani presidents, prime ministers, and foreign ministers preceded this climax in the Turkish-Armenian thaw. Cengiz Candar, a Turkish journalist who accompanied President Gul to Tehran on March 11, reports that Gul and his Azerbaijani counterpart, Ilham Aliyev, met in the Iranian capital specifically to discuss the issue.

    What an irony of history that now a Turkish government with an Islamic background and an Armenian government led by a former nationalist fighter from Nagorno-Karabakh are close to a breakthrough

    Turkish leaders seem to be surprised by the outrage with which President Aliyev, other Azerbaijani officials, and the Azerbaijani media have responded to the Turkish-Armenian rapprochement. Some Turkish analysts maintain that Baku’s “demonstrative dismay” is meant primarily for internal consumption, while others speculate that the intention is to make clear to Moscow, Yerevan’s main supporter, Baku’s readiness to include it in all political processes in the southern Caucasus.

    Whatever the reason for Baku’s anger, the Turkish leadership seems to have concluded that having no diplomatic relations with one of its neighbors and keeping its border closed have not produced, and will not produce, any positive movement on three key issues that have frozen the status quo for nearly 17 years.

    The first of those is Yerevan’s insistence that the mass killings of Ottoman Armenians in 1915 should be recognized as “genocide.”

    The second is Ankara’s demand that Yerevan clearly recognize the current Turkish-Armenian border, and refrain in future from referring to eastern Turkey as “western Armenia.”

    And the third is concluding an agreement between Baku and Yerevan on Nagorno-Karabakh and other Azerbaijani  territories occupied by Armenian forces.

    Referring to serious disputes on all these three points, Turkey “acknowledged” Armenia’s independence in 1991 but declined to extend formal diplomatic recognition. And following the occupation of Azerbaijani territories by Armenian forces, Ankara closed its borders with Armenia in 1993.

    For the past 15 or more years, Yerevan has been demanding the opening of the border and the establishment of diplomatic relations “without any precondition.” Ankara, on the other hand, has made both those demands contingent on the resolution of the three main disputed issues. Endless and exhausting talks have been held between all parties involved: Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and the “Minsk Group,” consisting of Russia, the United States, and France, to mediate between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

    But those talks yielded no concrete results. What an irony of history that now a Turkish government with an Islamic background and an Armenian government led by a former nationalist fighter from Nagorno-Karabakh are close to a breakthrough in what was long enough considered a “frozen conflict.”

    With technical details reportedly worked out and political will evident in both Ankara and Yerevan, the next few weeks may bring breaking news about the beginning of a historical rapprochement between Turks and Armenians. There are also reports that the Azerbaijani-Armenian conflict may be “very close to a settlement,” although the players in each of these two distinct but intertwined dramas apparently don’t want to wait for the other game to be played out first.

    The public, however, still doesn’t know much about what the agreements would produce, either with regard to the “genocide,” or the recognition of the Turkish-Armenian border, or how the Armenian-Azerbaijani territorial dispute will be resolved. “Having good relations with Armenia is very good,” said Tulin Kanik, a student of political sciences from Ankara. “But what will happen with their claims on eastern Turkey or with the districts of Azerbaijan still occupied by Armenian forces?”

    That both Ankara and Yerevan look confident indicates that people on both sides of Mount Ararat will probably soon hear something they can not only live, but also be happy with. Both Erdogan and Sarkisian know that they have to present their respective populations with a win-win deal. And they also know that, however enthusiastic and supportive the West may be or Russia may become, their own constituencies must accept that deal if they want to survive as national leaders.

    Abbas Djavadi is associate director of broadcasting with RFE/RL. The views expressed in this commentary are his own, and do not necessarily reflect those of RFE/RL.

    http://www.rferl.org/content/The_TurkishArmenian_Thaw_and_Azerbaijan/1608216.html