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  • MKs respond to ‘new low’ in relat… JPost – Diplomacy & Politics

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    MKs respond to ‘new low’ in relations with Turkey

    By LAHAV HARKOV

    09/02/2011 18:11

    Elkin: Turkey should apologize for supporting terror; Zoabi: Israel should pay a price for oppression and occupation.

    Likud MK Zeev Elkin Photo by: Marc Israel Sellem/The Jerusalem Post

    Knesset members reacted angrily to the downgrade in diplomatic relations by Turkey on Friday.

    “Turkey, which supports terrorist organizations that shoot rockets at Israeli citizens every day, is the one that needs to apologize and take responsibility,” coalition chairman Ze’ev Elkin (Likud) said. “Turkey, which cruelly represses the national longings of the Kurds, is the last one who can preach to us.”

    “Israel needs to stand strong before the chutzpah and the extortion of Turkey’s Islamist government,” he said.

    Likud MK Danny Danon said: “Turkey crossed the line in supporting the flotilla and supporting terrorism, and they have the nerve to ask us for apologies. Turkey needs to apologize to Israel and to abandon the ways of terror and the axis of evil.”

    Danon called for the US to declare Turkey a state that supports terrorism, because of its close ties to Iran.

    MK Yohanan Plesner (Kadima) called the expulsion of Israel’s ambassador to Ankara “a new low in our declining relations with Turkey over the last two years.

    “The downgrade in our relations is not the result of Israel’s policy, but mainly comes from other trends, but the new low was not inevitable,” Plesner said. “It still is not too late to make a compromise that will serve our mutual interests: Protecting IDF soldiers from lawsuits and expressing regret for the loss of life.”

    Kadima MK Otniel Schneller (Kadima) called for restraint in reacting to the downgrade.

    “Our interest is to maintain relations with Turkey as much as possible,” he said. “This is in Israel’s interest and in the interest of the entire Middle East.

    Israel has a responsibility to maintain stability in the region.”

    MK Arye Eldad (National Union) said Israel should expel the Turkish ambassador and demand payment for damages to the soldiers wounded during the May 2010 flotilla incident.

    He added that he plans to propose a bill to recognize the Armenian Genocide committed by the Turks that began on 1915, as soon as the Knesset recess ends.

    Arab lawmakers also reacted strongly to the downgrade, saying it was deserved.

    “This is the correct reaction after Israel continues to disrespect human life, the nations of the region and neighboring countries’ sovereignty,” said MK Haneen Zoabi (Balad), who was aboard the Mavi Marmara last year.

    “Just as Israel is planning a new social order, it should consider a new diplomatic policy, in which it pays a heavy price for the oppression, occupation and belligerence,” she said.

    MK Ahmed Tibi (United Arab List-Ta’al) said, “Whoever kills pays a price.

    “The Israeli Judaism will lead to an apology from the most extreme and most arrogant Israeli government,” Tibi said.

    “It is only a matter of time – the blood of the Turkish victims is screaming from the ground and the water.”

    via MKs respond to ‘new low’ in relat… JPost – Diplomacy & Politics.

  • The real reasons Turkey stopped the Mavi Marmara sailing to Gaza last June

    The real reasons Turkey stopped the Mavi Marmara sailing to Gaza last June

    Submitted by Ali Abunimah on Sat, 09/03/2011 – 07:21

    Last June, as the Gaza Freedom Flotilla 2 was preparing its attempt to break the illegal Israeli siege of Gaza, many were dismayed when the Mavi Marmara was withdrawn from the flotilla. Why did this happen?

    The Mavi Marmara is the Turkish-operated ship that Israel attacked on 31 May 2010 in international waters during the previous flotilla, killing 9 people and injuring dozens more.

    Israel’s refusal to apologize for the attack, and to meet other Turkish demands led to yesterday’s unprecedented sanctions by the Turkish government.

    In the wake of a deeply flawed, biased and non-credible UN report justifying the Israeli siege of Gaza and whitwashing the Israeli attack, Turkey has downgraded diplomatic relations with Israel to the lowest level, suspended all military agreements between the countries, and vowed to take other measures to seek justice for the victims of the Israeli attack and to challenge the Israeli siege.

    Why did Turkey stop the Mavi Marmara?

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    Although the Mavi Marmara was operated by the independent charity IHH, it seems highly likely that the decision to withdraw from the flotilla in June was taken at the suggestion of the Turkish government. The reasons given publicly for withdrawing the ship were “technical.”

    We cannot know what private communications may have taken place, but in early June Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu publicly suggested that the flotilla organizers should “rethink” their plan to break the siege by sea. Whether the decision was at the behest of the Turkish government or not, it suited its needs at the time. Why?

    At the time many observers – myself included – feared that Turkey was softening its stance toward Israel and seeking to “mend fences” without Turkey’s demands being met.

    The suspicions of many were encapsulated in a drawing by celebrated political cartoonist Carlos Latuff that showed Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan declaring “I love Palestine” to win votes in the Turkish general election, while his shadow shakes hands with Israel.

    Many were convinced that the withdrawal of the Mavi Marmara meant Turkey’s policy was no different from the abject complicity of Greece, which worked hand in glove with Israel, to prevent the remaining flotilla ships from reaching Gaza.

    It is now clear that this analysis was wrong. For one thing, Turkish-Israel relations featured little in the June Turkish election campaign, and if Turkey’s stance was about winning votes, the government would presumably have announced its measures against Israel before the election rather than months afterwards.

    A tactical move in a long strategy?

    In light of the relative severity and decisiveness of Turkey’s sanctions on Israel, it is certain that withdrawing the Mavi Marmara was a tactical step, as negotiations between Israel and Turkey were ongoing, to avoid giving Israel the excuse of another “provocation” which would let it off the hook for the previous attack.

    Sending the ship could also have led to unknown consequences from Turkey’s perspective: either allowing Israel to seize the ship again, or escalating into a military confrontation.

    “Wasted opportunities”

    In his uncompromising 2 September statement laying out the sanctions on Israel, Foreign Minister Davutoğlu said:

    Turkey’s stance against this unlawful act of Israel from the first moment has been very clear and principled. Our demands are known.

    Our relations with Israel will not be normalized until these conditions are met.

    At this juncture, Israel has wasted all the opportunities it was presented with.

    Now, the Government of Israel must face the consequences of its unlawful acts, which it considers above the law and are in full disregard of the conscience of humanity. The time has come for it to pay a price for its actions.

    This price is, above all, deprivation of Turkey’s friendship.

    Turkey’s gesture of stopping the Mavi Marmara from sailing in June is almost certainly one of the “wasted opportunities” to which Davutoğlu alluded. Another would have been Turkey’s assistance in extinguishing last’s year’s Carmel wildfire.

    Laying the ground for a decisive step

    By giving Israel all these opportunities and avoiding anything that Israel could present as a provocation, Turkey has established beyond any reasonable doubt Israel’s total intransigence and unwillingness to assume responsibility.

    Thus, the measures taken yesterday by Turkey appear to have been well-studied and carefully prepared. This suggests that Davutoğlu was serious when he said there would be no retreat from Turkey’s position and no normalization of relations until Turkey’s demands are met.

    The cost to Turkey?

    One calculation Turkey certainly would have had time to consider is the price it might pay in terms of retaliation from the United States, Israel’s protector and patron. Turkey, unlike Israel, is a formal ally of the United States, a member of NATO, and thus has a mutual defense pact with the United States.

    The Turkish government must have concluded that it can withstand whatever wrath the United States might mete out, especially since the US still feels it needs Turkey to help maintain its faltering hegemony in the region.

    On the same day it announced sanctions on Israel, Turkey also revealed that it had reached agreement to host radar installations as part of the American-sponsored and conceived NATO “missile defense” program.

    Press reports indicate that as part of the deal, the US acceeded to a Turkish demand that data from the Turkish-hosted radars not be shared with Israel.

    Turkey, it turns out, is still of more practical benefit to US regional hegemony than Israel, which is increasingly a strategic and political burden to the United States.

    In terms of regional implications, Turkey has demonstrated to supine Arab regimes, particularly Egypt’s ruling military junta, that imposing a cost for Israel’s aggression is an option despite US support.

    Will the Mavi Marmara sail to Gaza again?

    Now that Turkey has shown its hand toward Israel, the question arises: will the Mavi Marmara sail to Gaza again? That is a question I cannot answer, but Davutoğlu also made clear that Turkey does not recognize the siege or maritime blockade of Gaza and would continue to challenge it:

    As a littoral state which has the longest coastline in the Eastern Mediterranean, Turkey will take whatever measures it deems necessary in order to ensure the freedom of navigation in the Eastern Mediterranean.

    Turkey does not recognize the blockade imposed on Gaza by Israel. Turkey will ensure the examination by the International Court of Justice of Israel’s blockade imposed on Gaza as of 31 May 2010. To this end we are starting initiatives in order to mobilize the UN General Assembly.

    What these measures will mean in practice – and whether they will involve the Mavi Marmara returning to Gaza, remains to be seen.

  • Turkey Reportedly Sets Deadline For Israel Apology For Deadly Attack

    Turkey Reportedly Sets Deadline For Israel Apology For Deadly Attack

    Turkey’s foreign minister has set this week’s expected release of a U.N. report on Israel’s raid of a Gaza-bound flotilla as a deadline for Israel to apologize for the deadly attack, two Turkish newspapers reported Thursday.

    The May 2010 raid by Israeli commandos killed nine pro-Palestinian activists and severely strained Israeli-Turkish relations. Turkey has warned ties could deteriorate further if Israel does not apologize, but Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has ruled out the idea.

    “The date the United Nations is expected to release the report is the deadline. If there is no apology until that date we will put our Plan B into motion,” Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said in accounts printed in Turkey’s Hurriyet and Zaman newspapers.

    At U.N. headquarters in New York, deputy spokesman Eduardo del Buey said Thursday that Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon “has not yet received the report himself.”

    “We understand that the report will be submitted to the secretary-general in the next few days,” del Buey said. “We will seek confirmation.”

    Davutoglu did not elaborate on what measures Turkey would take against Israel, but Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested last month that Turkey could back possible court action by victims’ families against Israel.

    Turkish newspaper reports have said Turkey also is considering downgrading diplomatic ties, cutting off economic ties and military cooperation, and giving Turkey’s full backing to the Palestinian quest for state recognition.

    In addition to an apology, Turkey also is demanding compensation for the victims’ families and an end to Israel’s blockade on the Gaza Strip, imposed since 2007. The nine people who died included eight Turkish citizens and one Turkish-American.

    The flotilla was trying to break the Israeli blockade. Activists charged that Israel was depriving Gaza’s Palestinians of vital supplies. Israel said the blockade was necessary to keep weapons away from Hamas, the militant group that rules Gaza.

    When the Israeli commandos reached the flotilla, they clashed with activists armed with knives, clubs and iron rods. Israel says soldiers acted in self-defense after the activists assaulted them on deck, while the activists say they were defending themselves from an Israeli attack.

    The flotilla raid drew an international outcry and forced Israel to ease its blockade.

    An Israeli inquiry into the raid cleared the military and government of any wrongdoing and said the armed defense of Israel’s maritime blockade of Gaza was justified under international law.

    But a Turkish committee that investigated the raid refuted Israeli claims of self-defense, and said Israeli soldiers used “excessive, indiscriminate and disproportionate” force on unarmed civilians.

    via Turkey Reportedly Sets Deadline For Israel Apology For Deadly Attack | FoxNews.com.

  • Should Israel apologize to Turkey?

    Should Israel apologize to Turkey?

    By DEBORAH DANAN

    If the Turkish demand for an apology is nothing more than a hammed-up provocation, is Israel justified in refusing to acquiesce — even if it means restoring ties with its Muslim ally?

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    The back-and-forth spat between Israeli and Turkish officials over the Mavi Marmara affair conjures up scenarios of a schoolyard bully pulling his classmate’s pigtails before a teacher intervenes and demands an apology. But bizarrely, at the bully’s insistence that “she started it,” it is the hair-abuse victim who is asked to apologize.

    Israel is the unassuming little girl, the IHH-backed ship is the bully and the teacher is the Turkish government.

    Of course, most people will argue that the allegory’s characterizations are the wrong way around: after all, the image of trained IDF soldiers shimmying down ropes doesn’t exactly bring Laura Ingalls to mind, and for that matter the phrase “humanitarian activists” isn’t quite analogous with the image of a tormenting schoolboy menace.

    But it is exactly like that.

    Without the Turkish government’s support of the IHH – recognized by Israel as a terrorist organization – the Mavi Marmara might never have breached the blockade, and nine lives would have been saved.

    However, for argument’s sake, let’s imagine for a moment that the facts on the sea are irrelevant. In such a scenario, the only relevant question is this: Is the excessive hoo-hahing about who owes whom an apology worth the price that both sides are paying?

    Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, not known for his eloquence, fell on the sword of his own rhetoric on Wednesday at a meeting of the Knesset’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. Lieberman restated his view that “there is no need to apologize” to Turkey, and that doing so would be “a humiliation.” He also accused Turkey of using the apology-card as a cheap trick to flex their muscles in the region, stating that it was simply “a matter of honor” for the Turks.

    Yet when speaking to reporters after the meeting, Lieberman seemed to have undergone a change of heart regarding the importance of honor. Israel cannot apologize to Turkey because, according to Lieberman, doing so will “harm Israel’s dignity [and] national honor carries a real significance.”

    But if this is a legitimate rebuttal on Israel’s part, why is Turkey slated for its own efforts towards the same end?

    Semantics aside, can’t Israel simply swallow its pride and apologize in much the same way a Englishman is prone to say sorry to the person stepping on his toe? Isn’t the greater good of repairing diplomatic relations with Israel’s Muslim ally worth the temporary embarrassment of apologetics? And as we already know, sorry is not the hardest word for Israel, as evidenced by the public apology to Turkey last year over the “Sofagate” incident.

    Unfortunately – at least in this part of the world – the answer is no.

    A diplomatic apology is not a band-aid that gets discarded once the wound has healed. Official apologies remain in collective memory forever. They carry tremendous power and can reshape the historical account of events. Furthermore, a diplomatic apology necessarily includes an acknowledgement of responsibility and acceptance of liability.

    Consider what transpired at the UN-sponsored World Conference against Racism in Durban, South Africa, close to 10 years ago. The conference was a veritable finger-pointing fest, with Arab representatives accusing Israel of racism while representatives from African countries slammed Europe and the US over slavery. In the latter case, African delegates demanded recognition of slavery as a crime against humanity (which has no statute of limitations) and further demanded individual apologies from European countries.

    In the interests of preventing future liability, the delegations of European countries – including Britain, Holland and Spain – fought hard to substitute the word “apology” with “regret” – the same word Israel is currently offering as an olive branch to Turkey. [Incidentally, the issue of reparations and apologies over slavery is one of the reasons the US pulled its delegation from the conference.]

    So Europe and the US get away without ever officially succumbing to the humiliation of apologising for slavery – indeed, they even escaped having to pay reparations – while Israel is expected to apologize over the use of “excessive” force during the breach of a legally sound blockade?

    And while we’re on the subject of overdue apologies, Turkey may want to revisit its own sordid history on the matter.

    Israel is not the first country to have its ties with Turkey severed over the issue of apology. While the argument of “they did it so why can’t we?” never works for Israel – primarily because the Jewish state is measured by a different moral standard than the rest of the world – there are things that are either too juicy or too horrifying to ignore.

    Exhibit A is the genocide of 1.5 million Armenians at the hands of the Ottomans during World War I. Demands by the Armenian community in Turkey to receive an apology from Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan have consistently been met with refusal. To add insult to annihilation, Turkey continues to reject the term genocide.

    In light of its ongoing 16-year-old blockade with Armenia, one would think Turkey would be a tad more sympathetic towards Israel’s own blockade of Gaza.

    So here’s a demand for you Prime Minister Erdogan: Instead of trying to mask your country’s macabre history with deplorable refutations, how about taking a leaf out of your own book and owning up to it? You never know, apologizing to the Kurds and the Armenians might just spur Israel to follow by example.

    The writer is editor of The Jerusalem Post’s Premium Zone.

  • Don’t apologize to Turkey

    Don’t apologize to Turkey

    Don’t apologize to Turkey

    Op-ed: Apologizing to Turkey over flotilla incident means distorting official history forever

    Manfred Gerstenfeld

    Erdogan. Untrustworthy Photo: Reuters
    Erdogan. Untrustworthy Photo: Reuters

    The new efforts by Israel to improve relations with Turkey come at a convenient time. The Turkish elections were Prime Minister Erdogan employed the whipping up of anti-Israeli feelings as a propaganda instrument are behind us. There are no great benefits for Erdogan to incite against Israel at this time. Anti-Israel hatemongering is not a political necessity for him. It is more of a luxury to be used when there are no other pressing issues for the Turkish government.

    Putting anti-Israel incitement on ice may even help Turkey in trying to wean Israel a bit from its warming relations with Greece, Bulgaria and Cyprus – countries that view Turkey’s increased power in the region in recent years in a very negative light.

    The continuing Syrian riots and their suppression by Assad’s government on the other hand, pose a genuine problem for Turkey. Erdogan does not know whether President Assad will continue to govern and for how long. Another uncertainty is whether Turkey will have to take in more Syrian refugees. With large parts of the Arab world in turmoil, there are many major developments that require Turkey’s constant attention. One example: Who will rule Egypt after the autumn elections and will the new government view Turkish support for Hamas positively or negatively?

    In the context of current attempts to end Turkish-Israeli tension, there remains the Turkish demand that Israel apologize for the death of nine people killed by the IDF on the Mavi Marmara at the end of May 2010. If Israel were to apologize, Erdogan would avoid losing face after his frequent demands that Israel should “admit its guilt.”

    Israeli appeasers contend that apologies are only words. They claim that it costs Israel nothing to admit that it was at fault. The Turkish government was, however, heavily involved in many aspects of the flotilla incident. This information can be found in investigative research carried out by Steven Merley, who specializes in political extremism.

    He exposes Turkish government support for the flotilla that was channeled through the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood network. This included the attendance of officials from Turkey’s ruling AKP party at many important Muslim Brotherhood network events in support of the flotilla, as well as a meeting attended by Erdogan himself with a delegation of the Global Muslim Brotherhood and flotilla movement leaders from Britain and France. This meeting took place shortly before the ships left port for Gaza.

    Indeed, without government support the Mavi Marmara would probably never have approached Israel’s waters.

    Don’t trust Erdogan

    An Israeli apology – however limited – has far more negative aspects than it seems at first sight. Apologies by nature bring closure to much of a debate. The two parties involved jointly agree on their interpretation of the past.

    More than any other country, Israel and the Jewish people have historical experience with apologies and therefore should have an understanding of their importance. Many nations and various organizations such as The Red Cross, church bodies and others have apologized for their behavior during the Holocaust. After the collapse of communism when Israel requested apologies from the newly independent nations in Eastern Europe there were also critics who stressed that the apologies were not genuine. Others noted that those who apologized were not the ones who had committed the crimes.

    Israel’s leadership, however, understood that official apologies play an important role as potential anchors in collective memory. They are preserved in archives and become an important source for historians. These apologies will remain well documented for future generations. Apologizing to Turkey over the flotilla incident thus means distorting official Israeli history forever.

    The world has had enough time by now to understand how Erdogan operates. In 2004 for instance, out of the blue, he accused Israel of state terrorism. In 2005, he came on a visit to Israel to mend fences. What probability is there that he will structurally change his future behavior in a positive way? When not pressured at home, he may consider it opportune to attack Israel again.

    If things quiet down on the Syrian border and Erdogan feels an internal or external need for inciting against Israel, apologies – if indeed made — will be one more instrument in his arsenal of hate mongering. If Israel apologizes, Erdogan could then say “See, I was right to attack them all the time.” Israel will then find that ultimately nothing has remained from the improved relations other than undeserved apologies, which will be documented for eternity.

    Manfred Gerstenfeld is the author of 20 books. He has published a number of research essays on the major aspects of apologies by countries and various organizations for their participation in The Holocaust

    via Don’t apologize to Turkey – Israel Opinion, Ynetnews.

  • Israel, Turkey to soften UN flotilla report?

    Israel, Turkey to soften UN flotilla report?

    Amid attempts to launch next Gaza flotilla, officials in Jerusalem, Ankara try to iron out differences, soften conclusions of Palmer committee on previous sail

    Yitzhak Benhorin

    Published: 07.02.11, 08:59 / Israel News

    WASHINGTON – Israel and Turkey are holding secret talks in an effort to soften the conclusions of the Palmer Report, issued by a United Nations panel appointed to probe the events of the May 2010 Gaza-bound flotilla.

    According to information obtained by Ynet, sources in Washington claimed that Israel’s representative to the UN inquiry committee Yosef Ciechanover, his Turkish counterpart and other officials were crisscrossing between Jerusalem and Ankara in an attempt to use the report’s conclusions to improve relations between the countries.

    The sources also noted that the American administration was applying pressure on both sides to end the prolonged feud, and therefore postponed the publication of the committee’s final report, which was headed by former New Zealand Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer and former Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.

    According to the sources, if Israel and Turkey reach mutual understandings, the United Nations may decide to moderate the reports’ conclusions and refrain from assigning direct blame on one of the sides.

    Recently, US President Barack Obama held two phone conversations with Turkish Prime Minster Recep Tayyip Erdogan and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke with her Turkish counterpart Ahmet Davutoglu in an effort to make progress between the sides.

    Washington regards Ankara as a main strategic ally in the new Middle East, especially following the recent uprisings in the region and Syria’s violent suppression of protesters.

    On Monday, Turkish paper Hurriyet reported that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agreed to a Turkish demand to issue an apology for the killing of nine activists onboard he Mavi Marmara, but rescinded his decision three times due to internal pressure.

    The Prime Minister’s Office denied the report, calling it “untrue.”

    via Israel, Turkey to soften UN flotilla report? – Israel News, Ynetnews.