Tag: Mavi Marmara

  • Time to talk with Turkey

    Time to talk with Turkey

    Time to talk with Turkey

    It would be absurd if Israel, which was prepared to negotiate with Hamas about a cease-fire, was unable to find the right words to apologize to the Turkish people for the Marmara raid.

    Haaretz Editorial | Nov.25, 2012 | 1:40 AM | 8

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    If the resumed reconciliation talks between Israel and Turkey, reported by Barak Ravid in Sunday’s edition, succeed, they could be the most significant diplomatic achievement of Operation Pillar of Defense.

    After the two countries understood the degree to which their interests overlap, they overcame the disconnect between them and agreed to have the head of the Mossad and the Turkish intelligence chief work together during the talks in Egypt that eventually achieved the Gaza cease-fire. One could also point to the tectonic shifts in the Middle East, the crisis in Syria and the negotiations with Iran about its uranium enrichment as mutual lines along which Israel and Turkey could continue to cooperate. Just as Turkey understood that bad relations with Israel haven’t helped it become accepted as a regional leader or achieve its ambition to be the crisis resolver in the Middle East, so Israel recognizes that, given its international and regional isolation, and with its ties with Egypt so tense and fragile, Turkey is a necessary ally.

    There’s a lot of bad blood between the two countries. It didn’t start with the 2010 Mavi Marmara incident, in which the Israel Defense Forces raided a Gaza-bound aid ship and killed nine Turkish citizens onboard, but with Operation Cast Lead almost 18 months earlier, when Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan asked then-Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to hold off and give him a chance to reach understandings with Hamas. The firm friendship between the two premiers at the time was shattered by the Gaza operation.

    The history of the rift between the two countries, however, is not so important now. Great damage has been caused to their mutual relationship and, no less important, to the relationship between the two peoples, because both governments had stooped to keeping petty accounts accompanied by insulting remarks. But the meeting last week in Geneva between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s envoy, Joseph Ciechanover, and Turkish Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Feridun Sinirlioglu demonstrates that the two governments are prepared to try to bury the hatchet.

    Indeed, it would be absurd if Israel, which was prepared to negotiate with Hamas about a cease-fire, was unable to find the right words to apologize to the Turkish people for the Marmara raid, just as it would be ridiculous if Turkey, which is now prepared to negotiate with Kurdish terrorists, rejected Israeli overtures. It’s about time the two countries became friends once again.

    via Time to talk with Turkey – Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper.

  • Turkey begins trial of Israeli military men over killings

    Turkey begins trial of Israeli military men over killings

    ISTANBUL (Agencies): Hundreds of protesters chanting \”Murderer Israel!\” gathered outside an Istanbul court on Tuesday at the start of a trial of a group of former Israeli military commanders charged over the 2010 killing of nine Turks aboard a Gaza-bound aid ship.

    The trial in absentia of four of Israel\’s most senior retired commanders, including the head of the army, has been dismissed by Israel as a politically motivated \”show trial\” and threatens to further strain already fraught relations.

    Ties between the Jewish state and what was once its only Muslim ally crumbled after Israeli marines stormed the Mavi Marmara aid ship in May 2010 to enforce a naval blockade of the Palestinian-run Gaza Strip.

    Nine Turks were killed in clashes with activists on board.

    The ensuing rift remains raw despite U.S. efforts to encourage a rapprochement between the two regional powers whose alliance was a mainstay of Washington\’s influence in an unstable region.

    Israel and NATO member Turkey, which both border Syria, once shared intelligence information and conducted joint military exercises, cooperation which has since been cancelled.

    Several hundred people, many wearing the Arab keffiyeh headscarf around their necks adorned with the Turkish and Palestinian flags, crowded outside the courthouse as witnesses and relatives of those killed in the raid began to arrive.

    \”Murderer Israel, get out of Palestine!\” the crowd chanted as others held up a banner with the words: \”What is the difference? Hitler = Israel.\”

    On a board erected outside the courthouse by IHH, the Islamic humanitarian agency that owns theMavi Marmara, protesters scribbled the slogans: \”Israel, your end is near\”, \”Down with Israel\”, \”The revenge of our martyrs will be bitter\”.

    \”We want nothing more than for those who are responsible to be punished. We want them to be brought to account for the violation of Palestinian people\’s rights,\” said Ummugulsum Yazici, one of the protesters.

    Inside the courtroom, the presiding judge began hearing testimony from those who were aboard the flotilla during the 2010 raid. A total of 490 people, including activists and journalists, are expected to give evidence.

    Ann Wright, a former colonel in the U.S. army, who was on one of the smaller ships, described how Israeli troops had boarded their vessel, firing paint bullets and tossing stun grenades.

    \”After serving 29 years in the U.S. army, I retired in 2003 in opposition to the Iraq war,\” she told the court.

    \”One of the reasons I went on the flotilla is that I felt compelled to challenge Israeli policy to impose an illegal blockade on Palestine and the U.S. policy to support Israel\’s illegal actions,\” she said.

    The indictment prepared by a state prosecutor is seeking multiple life sentences for the now retired Israeli officers over their involvement in the nine killings and in the wounding of more than 50 others. The 144-page indictment names Israel\’s former Chief-of-Staff Gabi Ashkenazi, and three other senior commanders. It lists \”inciting murder through cruelty or torture\” and \”inciting injury with firearms\” among the charges.

    Israel has dismissed the case as a \”show trial\” and \”political theatre\”, saying the accused had not even been notified of the charges.

    \”This is not a trial, this is a show trial with a kangaroo court. This is a trial taken right out of a Kafka novel, a grotesque political show that has nothing to do with law and justice,\” Yigal Palmor, an Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, told Reuters TV.

    Turkey expelled Israel\’s ambassador and froze military cooperation after a U.N. report into the 2010 incident released in September last year largely exonerated the Jewish state.

    That report was meant to encourage a rapprochement between the two countries but ultimately deepened the rift when it concluded that Israel had used unreasonable force but that its blockade on Gaza was legal.

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in July that Israel and Turkey needed to repair their relationship, but attempts to rekindle the strategic relationship have failed.

    Turkey has demanded a formal apology, compensation for victims and the families of the dead, and for the Gaza blockade to be lifted.

    Israel has voiced \”regret\”, falling short of the full apology demanded, and has offered to pay into what it called a \”humanitarian fund\” through which casualties and relatives could be compensated.

    via Turkey begins trial of Israeli military men over killings.

  • Op-Ed: Turkey Has Crossed One More Red Line

    Op-Ed: Turkey Has Crossed One More Red Line

    Since Israel’s Comptroller has published a critical opinion on the Prime Minister’s decision making processes regarding the flotilla affair (though he did not criticize the outcome), it is a good idea to remember with whom we are dealing.

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    Dr. Avi Perry

    Dr. Avi Perry (Fried), a talk show host at Paltalk News Network (PNN), is the author of “Fundamentals of Voice Quality Engineering in Wireless Networks,” and more recently, “72 Virgins,” a thriller about the covert war on Islamic terror. He was a VP at NMS Communications, a Bell Laboratories – distinguished staff member and manager, as well as a delegate of the US and Lucent Technologies to the ITU—the UN International Standards body in Geneva, a professor at Northwestern Universit and Intelligence expert for the Israeli Government. He may be reached through his web site www.aviperry.org

    A Turkish court, on Monday May 28, 2012, formally pressed criminal charges against Israeli generals. The charges were pressed for the generals’alleged involvement in the deaths of nine Turkish nationals.

    These deathsoccurred when these people tried to lynch Israeli Defense Force’s (IDF)personnel who boarded the Turkish ship, Mavi Marmara, during its attempt to break Israel’s blockade of Gaza in 2010.

    Consequently, Israel is facing the following choices:

    A. Send officers to Turkey to stand trial

    B. Retaliate by indicting thoseTurkish officials responsible for blessing the Turkish failed incursion attempt

    C. Send defense lawyers to Turkey when the trial begins with the aim of countering the charges

    D. Ignore them

    E. Go on a public relations blitz, trying to have the trial backfire on Turkey like a boomerang

    Only two of the above fall within the set of feasible potential responses, and there is only one option that should be applied.

    The idea of sending the IDF officers to Turkey to face trial is downright absurd. Since the IDF Cast Lead campaign, Turkey has been turning more hostile by the day toward Israel and warmer by the hour towards Israel’s arch enemies.

    Turkey’s president, Mr. Erdogan, has become the loudest animated voice within the chorus comprising those who try to delegitimize Israel’s right to self-defense.

    Sending the Mavi Marmara to Israel’s coast, in an attempt to breach the legal barrier against the Gaza-bound arms-smuggling activity, was an aggressive, malicious act designed to inflict harm on the state of Israel.

    The nine Turkish nationals, who died during the Mavi Marmara incident, were the ones who declared war on the Jewish state by attempting to lynch the Israeli soldiers who boarded their ship. The Israeli soldiers had no choice but to defend themselves against their Turkish attackers. The soldiers were only guilty of protecting their own lives in self-defense under the brutal ambush aimed at lynching them—not a crime.

    Sending defense lawyers to Turkey to counter the charges will undoubtedly be a futile attempt at countering a political plot, not a legal, legitimate attempt at realizing justice. Furthermore, any Israeli attorney trying to defend Israeli actions (on Turkish soil) concerning the Mavi Marmara, will, in all probability, be subject to intimidation, harassment and even life-threatening assaults. Once again, this option is not feasible.

    Although retaliating by indicting those Turkish big shots responsible for blessing the failed incursion attempt will be emotionally satisfying to Israelis, it will be viewed by the rest of the world as an extravagant, rather than a legitimate, legal move. And since Israel takes pride in and is respected by its allies for its fair, objective and balanced legal system, a move to politicize it may jeopardize Israel’s reputation in this venue.

    Ignoring the Turkish move has its merits. The subject will fade away from the headlines and will not be the subject of the talk around the water cooler. Still, the Turkish move may attempt to bring Interpol into the picture.This could develop into a dangerous precedent, as emphasized by former ambassador to the US, Dr. Meir Rosen, who claimed that “If Turkey gets an international arrest warrant, it may demand that all Interpol member states issue arrest warrants for Israeli officers, at least in the short term”.

    This kind of development, in light of the fact that Interpol is known for its politically motivated role in arrests and deportations, is a dangerous precedent. If it sticks, then not only the indicted Israeli commanders will be unable to travel to most countries outside Israel for fear of being arrested, but future commanders may be less willing to take risks in protecting the state of Israel as a result.

    The only logical option left for an Israeli response is to fight the indictment by going on a public relations blitz, trying to have the issue backfire on Turkey like a boomerang. Turkey is vulnerable. Every accusation the Turks have ever laid on Israel can rub on them directly in as significantly more pronounced way, as if the accusations were injected with steroids before reversing course and hitting the Turks in the face.

    The Turks accused Israel of genocide during the Cast Lead campaign without having any proof, without looking at the evidence, without taking into account the defensive nature of the war, which attempted to end Hamas’s rocket attacks on Israeli civilians.

    The Turks never considered how hard Israel had worked to protect the civilian enemy population in Gaza by avoiding shooting at enemy combatants when they surrounded themselves with human shields—has an enemy of any nation ever halted hostilities during a two-hour-lunch to allow the civil population (including the opposing fighting forces) to go out, shop for food, maintain their normal business, so life would not turn to complete hell? No one has ever fought that kind of humane battle other than Israel.

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    Turkey’s aggression in Cyprus… cleansed half of the island of its Greek population, creating a refugee problem that they have been failing to recognize, while continuing to occupy the cleansed land, building and expanding settlements.
    q bottomNevertheless, Erdogan continues to deny Turkey’s role in committing genocide on its own Armenian citizens. He continues to ignoreTurkey’s aggression in Cyprus where the Turks cleansed half of the island of its Greek population, creating a refugee problem that they have been failing to recognize, while continuing to occupy the cleansed land, building and expanding settlements.

    It should also be noted that while the Palestinian refugee problem was self-inflicted and should be blamed on the Arabs, the Greek Cypriot refugees were not trying to throw all Turks to the sea when they were forced out of their homes by the invading Turkish army.

    And now Turkey is trying to deny Israel’s right to self-defense. Erdogan makes a mockery of international law, claiming that the sea blockade of Gaza is illegal, where in fact; all law-abiding nations including the UN, have clearly recognized the legality of that blockade, just like they did when JFK blockaded Cuba during the missile crisis in the 60s.

    Israel must make the case in front of the law-abiding nations of the world that the Turks are the only guilty party in the Mavi  Marmara incident, that Erdogan’s refusal to take responsibility for his country’s crimes and reckless actions has made Turkey’s judicial system a joke.

    Israel should make the case that the aggressive part of the Mavi Marmara incident was not the IDF soldiers’ act of self-defense, but rather the violent attempt to breach the blockade by theTurkish government.

    It was the Turkish government, that knowingly and willingly sent armed IHH members – a known terrorist group – to break Israel’s counter-terrorism blockade. It is the Turkish government whom the world should condemn. It is the Turkish legal system that the world should ridicule.

    And it is Israel’s duty to push for that condemnation of Turkey and its legal system.

  • Protected: ‘Turkey investigating IHH head for funding al-Qaida’

    Protected: ‘Turkey investigating IHH head for funding al-Qaida’

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  • Israel offers compensation to Mavi Marmara flotilla raid victims

    Israel offers compensation to Mavi Marmara flotilla raid victims

    £4m paid to Jewish foundation in Turkey, which will distribute the money to the victims and their families

    guardian.co.uk, Thursday 24 May 2012 23.13 BST

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    The familis of activists who were killed in the raid on the Mavi Marmara have been offered compensation. Photograph: Kate Geraghty/Sydney Morning Herald/Getty

    The Israeli government has offered £4m in compensation to the families of Turkish activists killed by Israeli commandos who stormed a ship taking part in an aid flotilla in May 2010, according to a lawyer representing the victims.

    Ramzan Ariturk said the money would have been paid to a Jewish foundation in Turkey for distribution and would be followed by a statement of “regret” for the raid by the Israeli government on the Mavi Marmara, which was bound for the Gaza Strip.

    The lawyer, one of several representing 465 victims and relatives of the dead and injured on board the Mavi Marmara, said that the Israeli government had made a proposal to him through an intermediary foreign ambassador in Ankara.

    Turkey cooled diplomatic relations with Israel after nine of its citizens were shot dead by Israeli commandos who landed on the Mavi Marmara to prevent its passage to Gaza. Protesters on the ship repelled the first wave of lightly armed commandos, but then the Israeli soldiers used lethal force against the unarmed passengers to end their resistance.

    Ariturk said he told the ambassador a month ago that he did not think the offer was appropriate or moral. “I also discussed the issue with the victims and their friends and they also stated that they could not accept this,” he said.

    He declined to disclose the nationality of the intermediary or the name of the Jewish organisation that would distribute the compensation but said the Turkish foreign ministry agreed with his decision, saying Israel should have contacted it directly.

    According to sources in the Turkish foreign ministry who spoke to the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, Israel had not presented the offer to them directly. The source said that the principle of damages was accepted by Turkey but the obstacle was Israel’s admission of guilt which Turkey insists upon.

    “Israel is opposed to declaring publicly that it apologises and Turkey is not prepared to accept a wording of regret that does not include taking responsibility, that is required in an expression of apology,” the sources said.

    Mark Regev, the spokesman for Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, declined to comment.

    On Wednesday an Istanbul prosecutor submitted an indictment seeking life sentences for four former Israeli military commanders in connection with the raid, including the chief of general staff at the time.

    The United Nations report on the raid last September concluded that Israel had used unreasonable force but that its blockade of Gaza was legal.

    via Israel offers compensation to Mavi Marmara flotilla raid victims | World news | guardian.co.uk.

  • Turkey denies Israeli report that Mavi Marmara lawsuits dropped

    Turkey denies Israeli report that Mavi Marmara lawsuits dropped

    Turkey denies Israeli report that Mavi Marmara lawsuits dropped

    Submitted by Ali Abunimah on Fri, 01/13/2012 – 15:30

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    Turkey’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) today denied a report in the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronot, carried also on its English website Ynet, that Turkey was to drop its legal actions and lawsuits against Israelis it holds responsible for the attack on the Gaza-bound ship Mavi Marmara on 31 May 2010 which killed 9 people and injured dozens.

    Turkey’s Anatolia News Agency carried this report, which has been translated for The Electronic Intifada:

    Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs denied the news report on Mavi Marmara published in Israel’s Yedioth Ahronot newspaper

    ANKARA – MFA Spokesperson Selçuk Ünal denied claims that Turkey suspended cases that were opened against Israelis connected to the attack on the Mavi Marmara flotilla.

    In his statement to the Anatolian Agency, Spokesperson Ünal said “the claims in this report do not reflect the reality.”

    A news report published in The Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronot had claimed, based on sources in the US State Department , that Turkey suspended all cases opened against those Israelis involved in the raid on the Mavi Marmara flotilla going to Gaza in 2010.

    Israeli report allegedly based on “US sources”

    Earlier, a Ynet report headlined “Turkey dropping Marmara lawsuits” claimed:

    Sources in the US State Department said that the Turkish attorney general has ordered that all legal proceedings against Israeli elements involved in the IDF raid on the Marmara ship in May 2010 to be halted, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.

    According to the sources, Turkish prosecutors were instructed to withdraw all proceedings against the elements that gave the order to take over the ship or who actively raided the vessel, an event which resulted in the deaths of nine Turkish citizens.

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    Turkey’s decision to pursue legal action against Israel for the attack on the Mavi Marmara was announced as part of a package of sanctions last September which included downgrading diplomatic relations and severing military ties over Israel’s refusal to apologize for the attack and lift the siege of Gaza.

    via Turkey denies Israeli report that Mavi Marmara lawsuits dropped | The Electronic Intifada.