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  • Live interview of Harun Yahya with the Israeli Delegation in Istanbul on Jan 19th, 2010

    Live interview of Harun Yahya with the Israeli Delegation in Istanbul on Jan 19th, 2010

    IsraildenheyetADNAN OKTAR:  Now let’s make an entrance speech. There’s an understanding of brotherhood in the Islamic way of thinking, Christian way of thinking and Jewish way of thinking. The aim for the coming of our guests is to reinforce this way of thinking, to put an end to the anarchy and terror in the world, accentuate the art, science, love, affection, compassion, friendship and to cause these values to come forward.

    ADNAN OKTAR:. Atheists, those who do not believe in Allah, are in full collaboration and unity in the world. On the other hand, the majority of believers do not support each other, which is a quite erroneous attitude. It is very important for those who love Allah to support one another and be brothers with each other.

    ADNAN OKTAR: Of course we’re not going to be enemies with the unbelievers. They’re also the servants of Allah. Sure, we also strive for them to be better but in democratic ways and with love and compassion, not with aggression and violence and also by respecting freedom of ideas and respecting freedom of thought. Each religion believes in its’ own rightfulness, which is quite normal. I mean when you say “People of the Book”, Christians and Jews come in mind. And besides, there are Muslims. Muslims surely think they’re on the right path, otherwise they would not be Muslims. But a Christian also believes he’s on the right path and that he’s going to go to heaven, or else he can’t be a Christian. And again a Jew believes he is on the right path and he will go to heaven, or else he can’t be a Jew. Then we understand all religions should respect each other, be compassionate towards each other, support and protect each other as the servants of Allah. It’s so reasonable and normal for each religion to consider itself as the true religion as long as there are no fights, uproar, wars, and suppression on the freedom of thought. In case these do not come about, everything is fine. At any rate Allah says in a verse “I made you into peoples”. Hence the Qur’an tells us this is reasonable and normal.

    Atheism is the greatest problem in the world. I mean disbelief in Allah is the greatest problem. Darwinism and materialism is the biggest issue. Members of three religions should unite to struggle together against Darwinism, materialism and atheism on a scientific and rational basis and in a brotherly manner.

    ADNAN OKTAR: Because Jews are being oppressed in many places. Peple have tried to oppress them at the time of Hitler, they tried to oppress them in Spain, and they tried to oppress them in their own lands. In the same way, people have tried to oppress Christians, Protestants, Orthodoxs in many places and they were made to suffer. The oppression towards Muslims is already well known worldwide. Look, so there’s a satanic trick being played here. The worldwide freemasonry is trying to get into a way by making Christians destroy Muslims, Muslims destroy Christians, Muslims destroy Jews, Jews destroy Muslims; making them enemies against each other and making them break each other up. It’s a tactic played by freemasonry, a satanic tactic. We’re going to abolish this game. We do not allow such a thing, those who love Allah will support each other, help each other and everyone will freely live their religion. And we will be respectful to every religion.

    ADNAN OKTAR: Of course Jews will be ruled by the Jews. Needless to say Christians will be ruled by Christians and Muslims will be ruled by Muslims. This is what the Qur’an points out. In other words, the meaning of “do not take the Jews and Christians as patrons” is not to take them as rulers, which is normal. Of course everyone asks for those who share their beliefs to rule them. This is the meaning of it. Or else, as it’s written on the Books telling the life of Prophet Muhammad (saas), , Christians and Jews were shown mercy, love, attention, they were protected and supported at the times of our Prophet (saas), everybody knows this. Everybody knows how comfortable and peaceful the Christians and the Jews were in Fatih the Conquerer’s era. Besides, everyone knows how we sent for the Jews from Spain to here and how we provided them with opportunities and made them live in peace. Our ancestors implemented this beauty and this understanding of respect very well, we will be sustaining to implement this beauty.

    ADNAN OKTAR: Thus, the ideology which thinks of bloodshed, violence, and making the believers destroy each other by pretending not to understand these issues, would be serving the system of antichrist and Satan. And thus, we would neither let Christians be atheists, materialists, Darwinists, nor the Jews to be atheists and materialists or our Muslim brothers to be atheists and materialists. Insha’Allah we will struggle decisively against disbelief in the world. It’s well-known in Israel that we don’t allow atheism in anyway and that we’re in an intensive effort about this issue. We are in a great effort to not let Darwinists and atheists to influence devout Christians. But of course it’s very important for everyone to be free in their own religions. I consider the efforts to make Israel and Turkey be unfriendly towards each other, futile. Israel is a country of the People of the Book, they’re the People of the Book. We never accept to have a tension or struggle with them. Just as we lived amicably at the times of our ancestors, we will live amicably now. This is the case with our Christian brothers also. They are also servants of Allah. They are also a community. We’ll approach them with compassion too.

    ADNAN OKTAR: I mean we don’t become enemies with either Jews or the Christians because of a novel or a movie, or a theatre, and we don’t ever let that happen.

    1 ) Mr. Japhet Tsedaka (Yefet Zadka) – Head of the Samaritan community

    2 ) Mr. Mussa Hadi (Hurrian Dimitri) – Orthodox Christian leader

    3 ) Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander (From Sanhedrin the Rabbinical Court in Jerusalem, Jerusalem Court for Issues of Bnei Noah)

    4 ) Mr. Ayoob Kara – The Deputy Minister of the Development of the Negev and Galilee (Deputy Minister Kara is the closest non Jewish person to the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and has a vision to develop a strong and warm relationship between Jews, Muslims, Christians and all other religions.)

    5 ) Harun Yahya (Adnan Oktar)

    6 ) Oktar Babuna

    7 ) Sheikh Ameen Kablan (Abdul Amin Kabalan) – Deputy of the Druze community

    8 ) Rabbi Ben Abrahamson (Historian & consultant to the Rabbinical Court of Jerusalem, Sanhedrin relating Islam religion)

    9 ) Mr. Ataf Krinawi – Bedouin leader

    19 JANUARY 2010

  • The Comeback of Extremists in Turkey

    The Comeback of Extremists in Turkey

    Filed under: Lead Story, Turkey — Michael van der Galien, Editor-in-Chief on August 20, 2008 @ 9:48 pm CEST

    PoliGazette’s Michael van der Galiën reports from Istanbul, Turkey.

    ISTANBUL, TURKEY – When I visited the former capital of the Ottoman Empire, Istanbul, last year, I noticed more women wear a headscarf here than in Turkey’s second city, Izmir.

    Additionally, I was greatly impressed by the size of Istanbul. For Dutch standards, Izmir is gigantic with its four million inhabitants. Istanbul, however, is so big that the Dutch nor English language have words to describe the feeling a Dutchman gets when he walks in Istanbul for the first time. The amount of people – from all races, classes, religions, backgrounds – is breathtaking. People and cars are everywhere. Crossing the street is an adventure; it could literally be your death if you do not run. One gets the impression that all 15 million inhabitants of the city want to get to work at the same time.

    As said, that was not the only difference I noticed between the two cities. Izmir is truly a secular city. One sees almost no women wearing a headscarf. The women in Izmir are emancipated and modern.

    In Istanbul the situation was different back in 2007. One did, of course, not see any burqas, for Turks tend to greatly dislike those customs, but headscarves were everywhere. Where only 5% or so of the female population of Izmir covers her head, it is not hard to imagine this number to be somewhere around 50% in Istanbul.

    This year the situation in Istanbul has become worse. The step from a secular (Baku, Azerbaijan) city in a Moslem country to a religious city in a different Moslem country was gigantic. In Baku, like in Izmir, you can see just about no woman cover herself. In Istanbul, however, the situation has not merely remained the same, it has become worse.

    One gets the impression that the political power of the Justice and Development Party, or AKP, is transforming this city in rather rapidly. Whenever I walk to a shop, even if it is only 500 meters (yards) away I can see at least one, mostly more, women completely dressed in black (something I did not see – often – last year). All too often the only thing you see is the women’s eyes. The rest is covered.

    Many of these women are not Turks. They are mostly from Iran. Television in Iran is strictly censured. There is no chance whatsoever of Iranian women seeing things the religious leaders of that country do not want them to see. They mostly do not import TV shows. Many of the shows they do import, however, are from fellow Moslem countries. Especially Turkish TV shows are, I have been told, fairly popular in Iran.

    Since Iranian men have to work and women often stay at home, or at least enjoy watching said shows, they get acquainted with Turkey, and especially with Istanbul. Most Turkish TV shows take place in this major city. They become curious and want to see it with their own eyes.

    So, they convince their husband to book a trip to Istanbul, put their burqas in their suitcases, get in a plane and… before you know, you see them walking here.

    Those women are not, however, the only ones dressed completely in black. Increasingly more Turkish women cover themselves completely as well. They talk like Turks, they walk like Turks… but they are dressed like Iranians and Saudis. They radically change the landscape; unlike the other Turkish women they are not laughing, nor talking loudly with each other. They are silent and follow their husband. They look at women who do not dress like them with an arrogance hard to imagine; one has to see the look to understand just how ‘dirty’ it is.

    And so, the landscape in Istanbul is changing. One wonders whether it has reached an extreme and will become less in the coming years, whether it will remain the same or, and this is what I fear, it will become worse.

     

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