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  • Beyond the veil….”The Economist”‘ten ilginc bir yorum.

    Beyond the veil….”The Economist”‘ten ilginc bir yorum.

    “The Economist”‘ten ilginc bir yorum.
    Timur Sumer
    Beyond the veil
    Jun 12th 2008 | ANKARA
    From The Economist print edition

    The secular and the pious march towards a new collision, with unforeseeable consequences for democracy and Turkey’s chances in Europe

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    WHEN Adnan Menderes, a right-wing politician who spoke up for pious Anatolians, swept to power as prime minister after Turkey’s first free parliamentary election 58 years ago, a group of officers began plotting a military coup within weeks. Ten years later, with the support of the secular intelligentsia and politicians, they overthrew the government, by then in its third term. A year later, in September 1961, Menderes was hanged.

    Yildiray Ogur, a young activist, sees worrying parallels between the 1960 coup and today’s campaign, spearheaded by Turkey’s generals and judges, to overthrow Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the prime minister, and his Justice and Development Party (AKP). Turkey has been in upheaval ever since the constitutional court began considering a case brought by the chief prosecutor to ban the AKP and to bar 71 named individuals, including Mr Erdogan and President Abdullah Gul, from politics, on thinly documented charges that they are seeking to impose sharia law.

    The stakes were raised on June 5th, when the court overturned a law passed by a big majority in parliament to let young women wear the Islamic-style headscarf at universities. By voting 9-2 to quash the law the court sent a clear signal that it would vote to shut down the AKP. A verdict is expected by the autumn.

    To many the case is like a judicial coup: a last-ditch attempt to cling to power by an elite that refuses to share wealth and social space with a rising class of pious Turks, symbolised by the AKP. It may also further discredit the constitutional court. Above all, says Mr Ogur, the case reveals “an army that believes it should have the final say, not elected politicians.”

    A defiant Mr Erdogan vows to fight back. In a fiery speech in parliament this week, he declared that the court had exceeded its jurisdiction and would “need to explain itself to the people.” There is talk of changing the rules for appointing judges and limiting their ability to ban political parties. Some AKP officials dream of unleashing millions of supporters on to the streets. But they know that doing so would risk provoking a real military coup. “We are like lambs being taken to slaughter, we are resigned to our fate,” sighs one AKP deputy.

    A few hardy souls pin their hopes on Western support. The European Union has hinted that it would suspend membership talks if the AKP were banned. But thanks to the growing opposition to Turkish accession in countries such as France and Austria, few Turks believe they will ever get in anyway. “With no carrots left to offer, the EU has no stick to wield,” opines Cengiz Aktar, who follows EU affairs.

    The biggest deterrent to overthrowing the AKP may be Turkey’s wobbly economy. After six years of steady growth the economy is slowing down, inflation has crept back to double digits and this year’s current-account deficit is expected to rise to 7% of GDP. Faik Oztrak, a former treasury under-secretary and opposition parliamentarian, reckons that Turkey will need at least $135 billion in foreign inflows to plug the gap. As he asks pointedly, “where will it come from?”

    Investor confidence has been rattled by the government’s indecision over extending an IMF deal that expired in May. “With financial markets remaining jittery, Turkey is walking on a tightrope, making policy errors potentially costly. In particular, new initiatives that jeopardise the achievement of the announced fiscal targets, such as the planned reform of municipal finances, could tilt the balance of policies and should be avoided,” Lorenzo Giorgianni, the IMF’s mission chief for Turkey, says. He is referring to the government’s plans to boost local spending.

    Yet in Istanbul many financiers seem unfazed. They see no reason for alarm, even if the AKP is banned. A chastened, wiser AKP would simply regroup under a different name and it will be business as usual, the argument goes. Certainly, when a party is banned (they tend to be either pro-Kurdish or pro-Islamic) its members usually come together under a new banner. But Islamic parties often come back even stronger. The AKP itself is an offshoot of Virtue, a party that was banned in 2001. It romped to power in 2002 and won a second term last year with a bigger share of the vote.

    Even if it were disbanded, the AKP’s surviving parliamentarians would remain as independents in sufficient numbers to be able to force another snap election. Indeed, the million-dollar question, as one European diplomat puts it, is “whether those who are perpetrating this strategy against the AKP will let them come back even stronger. They are stuck between a coup and a hard place.”

    Not everyone thinks that the AKP will emerge unscathed. Even his allies agree that Mr Erdogan made a strategic blunder by passing the headscarf law instead of blending it into a package of broader reforms embodied in a new constitution. Instead of appeasing secular fears, some AKP members crowed that the headscarf would soon be allowed in government offices as well. Many say the void left by Mr Gul, who moved up from foreign minister to become president last August, is partly to blame for Mr Erdogan’s mistakes. As number two in the AKP, Mr Gul had often curbed Mr Erdogan’s rasher instincts.

    Meanwhile, support in the Kurdish south-east, where the AKP made big gains last year, has been waning ever since Mr Erdogan yielded to army pressure and authorised cross-border attacks on PKK terrorists in northern Iraq. He also snubbed members of the pro-Kurdish Democratic People’s Party (DTP) in parliament. Police brutality and mass arrests during a May 1st demonstration in Istanbul have not helped his image.

    Yet, for all his and the party’s failings, recent opinion polls suggest that the AKP retains a big lead over its rivals. “You may criticise us for going slow on reforms, but the truth is that we made more changes than Turkey was able to absorb,” says Abdurrahman Kurt, an AKP member from Diyarbakir. By giving pious Turks a political voice, the AKP has also bolstered their faith in democracy.

    By overturning the headscarf law, says Mazhar Bagli, a sociologist at Diyarbakir’s Dicle university, the court is running the risk that “radical groups will now seek their rights through illegal means.” In other words, the threat of radical Islam in Turkey may have increased thanks to the secularists’ attack on the AKP.

     

    YORUM

    From: サバ SAMATYA [sabasamatya@hotmail.com]

     

    The Economist’ten EKONOMIK VERILERIMIZ

     


    14.07.2008

     
        THE Economist, dünyaca ünlü ve yaygın bir ekonomi politik
    dergidir. Ama son birkaç yıldır Türkiye’nin AKP tarafından ne kadar da
    “harika” yöneltildiğini, Atatürk ve Cumhuriyet ilkelerinin ne kadar da
    “demode” olduğunu yazmaktan hiç bıkmadı. Hele, hele AKP kapatma
    davasına Talabani, Rumlar ve AB komiserlerinden bile çok üzüldü ve
    karşı çıktı.
    Ama The Economist’te yayınlanan toplu ekonomik veriler AKP iktidarının
    Türkiye’yi nasıl da kırılgan ve sıkıntılı bir noktaya sürüklediğini
    ayan-beyan gösteriyor.
    Gelin, The Economist’in siyasi makalelerde yücelttiği AKP iktidarının
    Türkiye’yi ekonomik verilerde dünyada kendi kategorisindeki ülkeler
    arasında getirdiği yerini birlikte görelim ve karşılaştıralım.
    Veriler 5 Temmuz 2008 tarihli 388 sayılı son The Economist’ten;

    işsizlik oranı:
    Türkiye %11.6
    Polonya %10
    Brezilya %7.9
    Hindistan %7.2
    Rusya %6.4
    İsrail %6.3
    Pakistan %6.2
    G.Afrika %3.2

    Dış Tic.Açığı(12 ay-milyar dolar)
    -85 Hindistan
    -69.7 Türkiye
    -22.2 Mısır
    -21.3 Avustralya
    -19.8 Pakistan
    -17.1 Polonya
    -13.2 İsrail

    Cari Açık(nisan 2008-12 ay-milyar dolar)

    -42 Türkiye
    -22.G.Afrika
    -17.5 Hindistan
    -15.2 Brezilya
    -10.5 Pakistan
    -5.0 Kolombiya
    -4.8 Meksika
    -0.1 Mısır

    Yukarıdaki tablolarda Türkiye’nin maalesef en negatif göstergelere
    sahip olduğu görülüyor.
    Tabi dünya borsaları arasında da 2007 yılsonu itibarı ile
    karşılaştırıldığında en çok kaybeden ve düşüş gösteren borsanın Çin
    ile beraber İMKB olduğunu da belirtmek gerekiyor.
    İngilizler, Rumlar, AB komiserleri ve Talabani’nin AKP’nin
    kapatılmasına neden böyle canla başla karşı çıktıklarını da yukarıdaki
    karşılaştırılmalı ekonomik veriler yeterince anlatıyor sanırım.
    The Economist’in sürekli övüp desteklediği AKP’nin, Türk ekonomisini
    nasıl dünyanın en kırılgan ekonomisi haline getirdiğini, yine aynı
    dergi son sayısının arka sayfalarında ilan etmek zorunda kalıyor.
    Ne diyelim Allah akıl, fikir versin.
     
     
    UFUK SÖYLEMEZ
    -TERCUMAN-

  • Ataturk veneration challenged

    Ataturk veneration challenged

    Nationalists and Islamists pursued by prosecutors

    Nicholas Birch THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    Thursday, July 10, 2008

    ISTANBUL | In a contest for the affections of schoolchildren in their respective countries, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln would have a tough time competing with Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey.

    Every school in Turkey has what is called an Ataturk corner, including a bust and list of his accomplishments. Excerpts from Ataturk speeches are part of every public building. His mausoleum in Ankara is a national shrine, and his image appears as a shadow on one mountain twice each summer, a few days before and after the spring equinox.

    More recently, Ataturk helped inspire Osama bin Laden, whose primary goal is to restore the position of caliph, or Muslim leader, that Ataturk abolished in 1924.

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  • Turkey Versus Turkey

    Turkey Versus Turkey

    Turkey Versus Turkey

    By SONER CAGAPTAY
    FROM TODAY’S WALL STREET JOURNAL EUROPE
    July 8, 2008

    The jailing of two retired Turkish generals over the weekend has heightened tensions between the government in Ankara and its critics. The generals are among 21 people whom police have detained over the past week, including a senior industrialist and a prominent journalist, on suspicion of plotting a coup against the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) government. Interestingly, the interrogations occurred as the chief prosecutor appeared before the constitutional court to make his case that the AKP be shut down for violating the state’s official secularism.

    David Klein

    While this showdown immediately revived the cliché of the “real Turks” of the AKP fighting off the “secular elites,” this is not a case of the pious, popular masses versus an irreligious intelligentsia. Both Turkeys in this power struggle are religious, both are wealthy, and both are equipped with powerful media and security assets. Still, the outcome will have a profound effect on Turkey’s future direction.

    The AKP has been ascendant since winning 47% of the vote in the July 2007 elections. That result was an improvement on its previous showing at the ballot box, and many viewed it as proof of the AKP’s strength. But the other way to look at it is that 53% of the Turkish electorate did not vote for the party. If secular Turks have their sympathetic journalists and their cadre of wealthy businessmen, so does the AKP: Pro-AKP billionaires abound in Istanbul, and they own around 50% of Turkey’s media outlets. What’s more, even Turks who voted for secular parties are religious: Opinion polls show that over 90% of Turks, regardless of which side of the political fault line they fall on, practice Islam. Finally, well-connected Turks suggest that while secular Turks can rely on military intelligence, pro-AKP groups control police intelligence.

    The struggle is for Turkey’s soul, specifically whose vision should win the age-old debate in Turkey between religion and politics. Secular Turks want to keep religion firmly separated from politics, education and government, while the AKP sees no harm in bringing religion into these realms.

    The AKP has been winning this struggle of late. The military, long considered a bastion of secular Turkish politics, is in disarray. In the latest incident, a Turkish general was unwittingly videotaped while discussing confidential information about another general’s health, and the recording posted on YouTube. This was all the more embarrassing because the general speaking in the video is responsible for electronic warfare — and has been busy fighting a spate of recent condemning leaks about top military brass, including top secret military documents published in pro-AKP media.

    The powerful secular business community, too, feels the pinch of six years of single-party rule. It’s true that Turkish businessmen of all persuasions have prospered from economic growth under the AKP. There was even a time when Tusiad, a lobbying group of secular business leaders, felt comfortable with the AKP, as Tusiad could offer the party advice and act as a check on its power.

    That does not seem to be the case today. Emboldened by its electoral victory, the AKP is steadfastly ignoring secular Turkey. The government’s first postelection move was to press media outlets owned by Tusiad members to fire prominent journalists, such as Emin Colasan and Asli Aydintasbas, who had not supported the party during the campaign.

    The AKP has also used legal loopholes to transfer large media companies, such as Sabah-ATV, Turkey’s second-largest media conglomerate, to pro-AKP businessmen. The government first charged Sabah-ATV’s owners with improper business practices and then passed control of the company to a national regulator. The regulator then sold the media group at an auction that had only one bidder: an AKP supporter who appointed Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s son-in-law as the media group’s new CEO.

    Media companies aren’t the only businesses threatened by this newly muscular AKP. The CEOs of several major Turkish banks and other companies have told me that if a firm criticizes the government, the financial police soon visit its offices to find a potentially devastating problem with its books. In the Byzantine world of Turkish bureaucracy, this is not such a difficult task.

    The AKP’s dismissive attitude toward secular Turkey also became apparent in the debate over a new constitution. Turkey indeed needs a liberal new constitution. Shortly after its 2007 victory, the AKP started to draft a new constitution but vehemently refused any input from outside its ranks, even telling its erstwhile supporter Tusiad to “keep away.” The new constitution has yet to be finalized and has turned into a partisan project.

    Then, in February 2008, the AKP passed a law permitting the wearing of the Islamic-style headscarf on college campuses. The Islamic headscarf is the most divisive social issue in Turkey, splitting the country in the same way abortion divides American society. Yet the AKP changed the status quo on the headscarf issue in just three weeks, once again dismissing public debate.

    These developments led to harsh action by secular Turkey. The constitutional court has reversed the AKP’s legislation on the headscarf issue, and the country’s chief prosecutor has begun a case to shut down the party for breaching the country’s constitution, which says that Turkey’s secular nature is inviolable. The court will decide the AKP’s fate later this summer.

    It’s in this context that one has to assess the past week’s jailings and other arrests since last year. The government has certainly targeted some real criminals — some of whom are outright mafia types, and some of whom may have been contemplating a coup. But the police have also detained honest critics of the AKP, such as journalists. The government seems to try to harass these journalists by arresting them together with real criminals. Even if they are released later without any charges, in the public eye the reporters might still be guilty simply by association.

    One such opponent that the AKP has targeted is Turkey’s oldest daily newspaper, Cumhuriyet, which has been steadfast and often alone in its criticism of the AKP ever since the party came to power in November 2002. Among the arrested last week was Cumhuriyet’s Ankara bureau chief, Mustafa Balbay. This follows the March 21 jailing of the paper’s 83-year-old editor, Ilhan Selçuk, at 4:30 a.m. at his Istanbul apartment.

    Mr. Selçuk was released after a two-day interrogation about private phone conversations, including chats with the paper’s correspondents, which the police had wiretapped. Almost four months later, the authorities have yet to bring charges against him. This story is a case in point: Turkish journalists tell me privately that they believe the AKP government has intercepted more than 1.5 million phone and email conversations involving its secular opponents. These journalists are left to wonder who among them will be jailed next.

    * * *

    So it’s clear that neither secular Turkey nor the AKP will go down without a fight. The question is who will win this battle for Turkey’s soul.

    There are two possible outcomes. In 2001, when the constitutional court shut down the AKP’s predecessor, the Welfare Party, the Islamists conceded defeat. At that time they had neither massive public support nor billionaire donors nor media backup to rely on. But that scenario is unlikely today, since the picture now is very different. The AKP is as well-equipped as secular Turkey. Hence, instead of conceding defeat, the party is more likely to fight on, cornering the military and using intelligence assets, the arrest and intimidation of opponents, and the financial police to create a more compliant society. The AKP will crush dissent when necessary, and cajole the business community into acquiescence.

    If the AKP wins, Turkey will not become a Shariah state; fundamentalist Islam is alien to the Turkish soul. However, it will become a country in which dissent is difficult, and a society suffused with a new, intimate version of a religion-state relationship. Islam will dominate politics and education and will shape the government’s administrative actions — such as curtailing women’s employment and the issuance of alcohol licenses. In other words, it will be less like secular, liberal-democratic Italy and more like authoritarian, semisecular Jordan. This is indeed a battle for two very different Turkeys.

    Mr. Cagaptay, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, is the author of “Islam, Secularism and Nationalism in Modern Turkey: Who is a Turk?” (Routledge, 2006).

    See all of today’s editorials and op-eds, plus video commentary, on Opinion Journal.

    And add your comments to the Opinion Journal forum.

  • Turkey crisis: Hopes of democracy are hanging in the balance

    Turkey crisis: Hopes of democracy are hanging in the balance

    • Sunday July 6, 2008
    • Article history

    It is too soon to know how the battle between the AKP and the secular establishment will play itself out, but, while we wait, spare a thought for Turkey’s beleaguered democrats.

    They include the scholars who have questioned the very foundations of official history, the lawyers who have challenged its infamous penal code, the writers, journalists, translators and publishers who have refused to be intimidated by that code, the nationwide alliances of feminist and human rights activists, and the musicians and memoirists who defy official ideology by celebrating their multicultural roots.

    I could go on. These are loose-knit networks: though many go back several decades, it was when EU accession began to look like a real possibility, in the mid to late 1990s, that they came into their own. What they saw in the EU bid was a chance for a bloodless revolution – a measured reform of its repressive state bureaucracies, a democratic resolution of the Kurdish problem, and an end to what polite political scientists call tutelary democracy.

    In the Turkish context, they mean a democracy in which the army has the last word, involving itself in the day-to-day running of government and stepping in to shut it down whenever it deems it to have strayed from the righteous path.

    Many of those who would like to see Turkey become a real democracy are veterans of its political prisons. Some did time after the 1971 coup, others were imprisoned after the much more brutal coup in 1980. A significant number did two stints in prison and/or were forced to spend time in exile. Quite a few bear the marks of torture. By and large, they are secularist in background, education and temperament, but in the past decade they have worked in parallel with Islamist groups that support democratic pluralism and oppose militarist secularism. Whatever their views on religion, a large number of Turkey’s democrats supported the AKP in the last two elections. They did so because they saw it as the party most likely to challenge the status quo.

    And so it has. Not since the founding of the republic has any government challenged the military with such daring. But its defence of free expression and the rights of others has been patchy. In 2005 and 2006 it largely condoned the prosecution of more than a hundred of Turkey’s most prominent writers, publishers and scholars.

    It did not speak against relentless media hate campaigns that have resulted in most of the Turkish public seeing the 301 defendants as public enemies. It did not offer any protection to the Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink. After Dink’s assassination, it did assign round-the-clock protection to the most prominent 301 defendants. But do not assume that they are safe. They put their lives at risk every time they speak, wherever they speak. A casual aside in Kansas City one day will appear under bold and distorting headlines in the Turkish press the next, alongside pleas for civil society to ‘silence them for good’.

    Does democracy have a future in Turkey? A lot depends on the Ergenekon indictment; a lot more depends on the outcome of the case against the AKP. But for me the litmus test is whether or not Turkey’s democrats can press for change without facing prosecution, persecution and (all too often) death.

    · Maureen Freely is a novelist and writer. She translated ‘Snow’ by Orhan Pamuk

  • COMPLAINT LETTER TO THE ABC RADIO NATIONAL MANAGER

    COMPLAINT LETTER TO THE ABC RADIO NATIONAL MANAGER

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    I am writing to you in relation to the Saturday Breakfast program that was aired on 21 June and 28 June 2008 on ABC Radio National. Author Giles Milton was the guest of these programmes and he spoke about his recent book “Paradise Lost: Smyrna 1922: The Destruction of Islam’s City of Tolerance”. During the program, he uttered groundless and biased allegations about the march of Turkish army to Izmir in 1922 to rightfully save the city from enemy occupation.

    I would like to point out that fabricating such blackening and one-sided stories about a nation’s history does not conform to scientific objectivity which seems to be totally lacking in the author’s book Furthermore, airing such biased views on a national broadcasting service does not comply with the spirit of harmonious relations among different societies successfully established by the multicultural character of Australia.

    I therefore underline my deep disappointment and strongly protest the ABC Radio National for airing one week after another, such a biased interviews full of fabricated and slanderous propaganda. By the way, it was the Greek occupation army which had destroyed and burnt the beautiful Turkish city of Izmir and committed heinous crimes as they fled.
    With the sincere hope of listening to programmes reflecting not only fabrications but also the objective truths of a story.

    Guide:

    1. Click the link below to open ABC complaints page:
    2. Fill in the necessary spaces.
    3. Copy and paste the above text to the appropriate space.
    4. Click send.

  • Turkey Not Ready To Recognize The Genocide Of Armenians by Gevorg Harutyunyan

    Turkey Not Ready To Recognize The Genocide Of Armenians by Gevorg Harutyunyan

     

    Turkey Not Ready To Recognize The Genocide Of Armenians

    by

    Gevorg Harutyunyan
    Hayots Ashkhar Daily, July 04, 2008 Armenia
    Director of the Institute of Oriental Studies of the National Academy of Sciences, Turkologist Ruben Safrastyan is the interlocutor of “Hayots Ashkharh” daily.

    “Mr. Safrastyan at this stage of the geo-political developments what peculiarities do Armenian-Turkish relations have?”

    “We must record that Turkey’s attitude towards Armenia is at clarification stage in the condition of the aggravation of the country’s internal-political situation. As we know the ruling party “Justice and Development” is facing different charges.

    Besides that, recently the sector of the Turkish secret organization named “Ergenekon” was revealed. The goal of the organization is to stage a military coup d’tat in Turkey.

    Ex-military-men, influential figures, Generals and representatives of Turkish elite are the members of the before mentioned organization, by the name of a Turkish epos.

    In fact it is the regular attempt of the traditional Turkish kemaly elite to maintain power. The thing is there is a struggle between two pro-governmental groupings in Turkey. The newly formed elite united with the pro-governmental “Justice and Development” party is struggling against the kemaly elite that has been in power for decades.

    This struggle has created great tension in Turkey’s internal political life. In such conditions the government in power did certain steps regarding Armenian Turkish relations, aimed at gaining the support of the West, especially the USA. It is not a secret that for many years the USA puts pressure on Turkey to open the borders with Armenia.

    In this context, it’s worth mentioning that the victory of Democratic Presidential Candidate Barrack Obama is becoming quite possible.

    Turkish analysts preview that in this case it will be impossible to avert the adoption of resolution 106 in the Congress.

    It is not accidental that the representatives of Turkish Foreign Ministry met with Obama’s counselors, during which according to our information the Americans recommended their Turkish partners to elaborate another program of Armenian-Turkish relations. The Turks will most probably try to create delusion among American democracy as if they are doing their best to improve relations with Armenia.”

    “Why delusion? Doesn’t Turkish people, society, or the authorities want to have regular relations with Armenia?”

    “In my view Turkey is not ready for principled changed in their policy regarding Armenia. According to Turkey Armenia must announce that it doesn’t have any territorial demands towards Turkey and that it recognizes Kars agreement, that it is ready for unilateral concessions regarding Karabakh, refuses the goal of the recognition of the Genocide of Armenians and will remove this issue from its foreign policy.

    Of course the latter is the most important issue for Turkey. But we must also record that Armenian historians and the specialists have already recognized the fact of the Genocide. American scientist’s society doesn’t accept Turkish stance saying that the fact of the Genocide is disputable.

    The US leadership also accepts the fact of the Genocide, but not officially, taking into account their state interests. But in the very near future the USA will have to officially recognize the Genocide of Armenians. In this regard Turkey intimidates that it will break off with the USA and will use sanctions, but it is of course ridiculous. And the USA in its turn recommends Turkey not to lose face and to find serious solutions.”

    “Recently OSCE Parliamentary Assembly adopted Turkey’s proposal, according to which the Parliaments of the member countries must encourage the idea of the formation of the joint committees of the countries with disputable issues, to conduct historical investigations. Thus many issues will be solved.”

    “Still in 2005, when Erdoghan sent a letter to our President to set up a committee of historians, Armenia officially responded that we are ready to set up a committee to study all the spheres. In my view this is the only way to bilaterally discuss, all the existing problems and achieve results.

    In case of setting up a committee of historians, believe me, Armenia will never agree to making the issue of the Genocide of Armenians a matter of discussion. We are ready to discuss the reasons and consequences of the Genocide in the framework of historical facts. But before the discussion there should be a certain consensus. For scientific dispute there are certain principles that must be mutually agreed upon. Otherwise the discussion is senseless.”