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  • ANCA Complaint

    ANCA Complaint

    above link is the offıcial complaint fıled for Armenian Lobi and its Illegal activities under the US law

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  • Turkish defense company sells equipment to Armenia

    Turkish defense company sells equipment to Armenia

    Javid Huseynov

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    Turkish contribution to Armenian democracy… 🙂 – water cannons.

    ANKARA – Nurol Machinery and Industry Inc., a Turkish firm in the defense business, is preparing to sell vehicle-mounted water cannons to Armenia and hopes its new armored personnel carrier will continue its popularity abroad.

    “Armenia contacted us. Talks have been going on for some time now,” said Nurol Machinery’s deputy general manager of marketing, Tanju Torun, during a demonstration for the firm’s new six-wheeled armored personnel carrier, named “Ejder” (Dragon) yesterday.

    Vehicle-mounted water cannons are typically used for crowd control. Torun did not give the exact number of water cannon vehicles destined for Armenia if the talks end positively. Eight people were killed last March when the Armenian police intervened against activists who were protesting the Feb. 19 elections and claiming that they were rigged by the opposition.

    ‘Reasonable price’

    Torun didn’t say how many vehicles were about to be sold. “I can say the price is reasonable. We are already exporting the vehicles to 10 countries,” Torun said.

    Ejder, a domestically designed armored vehicle on wheels that is resistant to tank mines and Improvised Explosive Device, or IEDs, will participate in the bid for the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, or SSM’s, Special Purpose Tactical Wheeled Armored Vehicles Procurement Project, on April 24.

    “Ejder fully meets NATO standards for armor and I can say that its price is approximately half of its foreign equivalents. I expect that it will enter the Turkish military’s inventory, too,” Torun said. Ejder has amphibious capability and can operate in temperatures ranging from Ğ32 to 55 degrees Celsius.

    “Curiously enough, we sold Ejder abroad before it came to use in Turkey,” Torun said, adding that over 50 Ejder vehicles were already sold. “The Columbian defense ministry asked for a meeting to purchase Ejders,” Torun said. Talks for export continue with many countries, he said.

    “It has not been combat tested yet, but it is very resistant to mines and enables the crew to resume its mission after a hit,” Torun said.

    Its maximum speed reaches 110 kilometers per hour, a considerably good performance for an 18-ton vehicle, Torun said. “We also managed to reduce the noise the personnel are exposed to down to 80 decibels in park, and to 89 decibels at full speed,” Torun said. Nurol Machinery and Industry Inc., has been in the defense industry since the early 1990s.

  • Armenians respond to apology

    Armenians respond to apology


    ISTANBUL – The apology campaign initiated by a group of Turkish intellectuals has inspired Armenians to launch a similar initiative to apologize to the Turks for murders committed by the Asala organization in the 1980s.

    Dr. Armen Gavakian from the Macquarie University in Sydney, who is also co-chair of the Turkish-Armenian Dialogue Group, is behind the initiative. The statement will be opened for signatures next week, Gavakian told daily Radikal. “Through this campaign we will show that we support our Turkish friends’ campaign with all our heart,” he said. The petition will read: “I apologize to the Ottomans and Turks for murders committed in the name of the Armenian people and I empathize with the feelings and pain of the Ottomans and Turks.”

    Gavakian said Turks’ “I apologize” campaign inspired him to launch a similar effort. “This was a great initiative that was proof of nobility since it is hard to face one’s past, whether as an individual or a nation É I hope the Armenians can show the same courage as the Turks and face the skeletons in their own closet,” he said.

    “My conscience does not accept the insensitivity and the denial of the ’Great Catastrophe’ that the Ottoman Armenians were subjected to in 1915. I reject this injustice and for my share, I empathize with the feelings and pain of my Armenian brothers and sisters. I apologize to them,” said the Turkish campaign’s petition signed by more than 30,000 people so far.

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  • Kurmandji Leader Apologizes to Aramaeans, Armenians – Colonial England and France Should Follow

    Kurmandji Leader Apologizes to Aramaeans, Armenians – Colonial England and France Should Follow

    Dr. Muhammad Shamsaddin Megalommatis

    The crimes and the massacres committed against the Aramaeans (Syriacs or Suryanis) and the Armenians in the north-eastern Ottoman territories during WW I were almost entirely perpetrated by the indigenous Kurmandji and Zaza populations who are different from the Turks and from one another, and cannot be categorized as fake “Kurds”.

    The events were mostly due to forced displacement of mainly the Armenian populations who had been incited by the colonial powers of England, France and Russia to pursue a disastrous attitude, to betray their own country, and to turn against their own homeland, the Ottoman Empire. For this reason, in legal defense of its own territory, the Ottoman administration rightfully decided to transfer the Armenians to other regions where they would not be able to disturb the heroic Ottoman army which was simultaneously fighting against the Russians, the English and the French.

    While crossing areas inhabited by Zazas and Kurmandjis, the Armenians have been decimated, but there was no Ottoman plan for this – which would have automatically implied the existence of a genocide.

    The events triggered greater friction between Muslim and Christian populations, and the tragic events affected greatly the Aramaeans as well. Because of the insecurity, sort of protection was sought after by some Aramaeans (mainly the Nestorians) from the Russians – which worsened the situation and ended with the destruction of the Julamerg (today Hakkari) Patriarchate at Kutchanus (1916).

    Instead of asking Turkey (an inexistent state at those days) to apologize for an inexistent plan of another state that does not exist anymore (the Ottoman Empire), the Armenians, collectively as nation, should apologize to the Turks for the Armenian high treason against the Ottoman Empire.

    A great example has been recently given by an enlightened and brave Kurmandji political leader, Ahmet Turk, who originates from Mardin, an area populated by Aramaeans densely before WW I and scarcely thereafter.

    With his great paradigm, Ahmet Turk introduces an element of ethics and moral responsibility into the politics of Turkey and the wider Middle East – in striking contrast with the gangsters Talabani and Barzani who idiotically believe the lies and the false promises of the criminal colonial English and French diplomats and statesmen, and the ´guarantees´ of the evil pro-English part of the US establishment.

    In fact, the only to present their excuses and the only to pay for their criminal deeds in the said area are the Freemasonic colonial elites of England and France.

    A union of Christians and Muslims in the wider area of the Middle East should be formed to help all the gravely affected indigenous nations and peoples, and to eliminate every colonial infiltration and presence in the area – target of the evil Freemasonic elites of the West.

    I republish here an enlightening feature from the Aram Nahrin portal which sheds more light on the recent developments.

    An Important Kurdish Leader in Turkey Apologizes for the Contribution of the Kurds to the Aramean Genocide of 1915 – Appeal to Ahmet Turk

    Ahmet Turk is the Leader of the Kurdish Party For Democratic Society (Demokratik Toplum Partisi= DTP) in Turkey. During his trip on 30-12-2008 in South-Eastern of Turkey through the province of Mardin, Mr. Turk visited along with other party leaders various historical and tourist places. Amongst others, he visited the Aramean Cultural Association in Midyat and the Aramean monastery St. Gabriel. During his conversation with the Arameans of Tur Abdin Ahmet Turk apologized for the contribution of the Kurds to the Aramean genocide of 1915, as has been published on the Turkish Websites of , , see below.

    Although Ahmet Turk did not mention the word ‘Genocide’, yet his statement is a important step in the right direction in a country where such statements are taboo.

    Mr. Turk said, “Because of the sorrow of the heartrending events, we feel necessary to apologize”.

    Please find below the articles published on the website of and , with the right column the original Turkish text and left column the English translation.

    In Turkey there are around 20.000 Arameans of which major part is living in Istanbul. In Tur Abdin there are but around 2.000 Arameans. In the Turkey the Arameans are known as “Suryani”. The English translation sounds like “Syrian”, which is a synonymy for Aramean.

    During the genocide of 1915 beside Armenians, around 600.000 Arameans were killed ( More about this horrible genocide:

    The recognition of the Aramean physical genocide by a prominent Kurdish leader is a step in the right direction. Hopefully more Kurds will follow his example and finally also the Turks will do this. However, with that there is no end to the matter.

    Contrary to the Armenians and Greeks, the Arameans also have suffered the horrible spiritual genocide. This spiritual genocide is the extermination of the Aramean cultural heritage by the Western missionaries and diplomats in the 16th and 19th century whereby the Arameans were exposed to fanaticism, nationalism and fake identities. In the 16th century the Catholics along with France brainwashed by means of blackmail and bribery a part of the East- Aramean Nestorians to call themselves “Chaldeans” and as a result of that in 1553 the “Chaldean Church of Babylon” was established. As a counter-maneuver, the same game was repeated in the 19th century, this time by the Anglican mission along with the British diplomats and brainwashed the remaining part of the East- Aramean Nestorians to call themselves henceforth “Assyrians”.

    In this way through the zealous efforts of the Roman Catholic Church and Anglican Mission, in the name of ‘Jesus’; an unprecedented nationalism mixed with religion was implemented with terrible consequences for the part of our nation. A cultural genocide was carried out against our nation. And this genocide is today shameless and criminally is being continued (More about this: )

    The hypocrisy and viciousness with many Western “genocide experts” is that they refuse to point at delicate matters where the West is concerned, namely the fact that the spiritual genocide has reinforced the physical genocide. The reason for this refusal and hesitation to acknowledge their deliberate machinations could be a significant indication that there is more going on than de killings of Arameans by the Turks and Kurds. Most probably the Western powers have, through the mediation of their proxies and diverse secret society and implacable international networks, participated in this abominable genocide, not to say orchestrated.

    How do they act regarding these heinous machinations? To present themselves as “the good ones”, “the civilized ones” and to put their “goodness and morality” in the spotlight, they ran the Turks into the ground and portray them as the most evil and barbaric nation. We believe that this is rather a shame-cover for their own crimes than bringing the unimaginable sorrow which the Aramean and other Christians have suffered under the Ottoman Empire under the attention of the world .

    As though this is not immoral and objectionable enough, these racist and horrible bandits continue with all happiness to designate our nation as “Assyrians”, as if their forefathers have done a good and a holy job with the spiritual cultural extermination of our nation.

    As Arameans we have a long path to go. With the recognition of the Aramean Physical genocide, the matter is certainly not finished. On the contrary, the recognition of Aramean spiritual genocide is even more important, because the diffused Western hatred and division, which is still being continued, finally will result in the complete extermination of the Aramean nation. Today, we see this very clearly in Iraq. And the traitors among us, seem along with some of their western spiritual creators and criminals, to achieve this very soon.

    Spiritual cultural genocide committed by the PKK – Appeal to Ahmet Turk and other Kurdish leaders for condemnation

    The Aramean physical genocide was indeed committed by the Turks and Kurds. Most probably, this genocide was orchestrated by the satanic and the criminal Jesus of the West through their proxies and secret societies. We would not be amazed that many high level Turkish as well as Kurdish leader responsible for this horrible crimes against humanity were controlled by the abominable proxies of the Jesus of the West, who definitely should not be confused with the Jesus Christ of the Bible.

    If today some independent conscientious Turkish scholars along with Kurdish scholars would dig in the history of this terrible genocide, they most probably would be utterly shocked to discover that those who orchestrated at the high level this genocide are not of Turkish origin at all, but are the children of Jesus of the West with completely different nationality than they ever would imagine. Probably some of them know, but do not dare to call a spade a spade.

    The tactic of the criminal Jesus of the West is always to exterminate by their proxies so that nobody would ever discover the real perpetrators.

    Similar crimes have been orchestrated by the Satanic Jesus of the West in 1993 when a covenant was coined between the PKK and the apostate Arameans who call themselves “Assyrians”. Please find here more on this crimes against the Aramean nation: . Below we summarize this criminal monstrous covenant to exterminate the Aramean culrural heritage.

    This covenant between the PKK and the apostate Arameans who call themselves “Assyrians” was coined as follows:

    Establishment of a sister-organization of PKK and recruitment of youth in the West.

    Falsification of Aramean identity, Mr. Ocalan himself says “We will change history”.

    If the PKK would prevail, the “Assyrians” would share in this victory.

    After this covenant was made, a horrible spiritual genocide initiated against the Aramean nation in many Kurdish media by the PKK. Everywhere the Arameans were called “Assyrians”, thus a horrible “Assyrianization” campaign was started. A cultural extermination of the satanic Jesus of the West was now conducted by the PKK and wicked spiritual colonial children of the Jesus of the West, the “Assyrians”. And this spiritual cultural genocide of PKK against the Aramean nation continues until these days. In many Kurdish and Turkish newspapers they designate our people in English as “Assyrians”, which is a fake and a crime of the first order.

    The Turkish word “Suryaniler” means Syrians in English. And the word Syrian is a Synonymy for Arameans and certainly not for “Assyrians”. In Turkish is this: Suryaniler= Aramiler, English: Syrians= Arameans. Please find here the famous scholars of the Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch who all testify on the Synonymy Aramean/Syrian.

    What the apostate Arameans who call themselves “Assyrians” are doing is that they follow the criminal western invention of the lost- A trick which states that “Syria” is a shortened form of “Assyria”. See more on this matter:

    For this reason we appeal to Ahmet Turk and other conscientious Kurdish leaders and say:

    1. Condemn the spiritual cultural extermination campaign of PKK to designate the Aramean / Suryani people in the Kurdish media as “Assyrians”.

    2. Condemn the spiritual genocide committed by the satanic Jesus of the West.

    3. Mobilize other conscientious Kurds and make them aware of the horrendous covenant between PKK and the satanic Western spiritual colonization and slavery product “Assyrians”.

    4. Warn all the Kurdish English language media under your sphere of influence to respect the Suryani/ Aramiler people and never call them by the wicked, colonial Western designation “Assyrians”.

    5. Ahmet Turk says “When I encounter today a Armenian and Syrian brothers and look at them, we feel ashamed”. The PKK should be even more ashamed than that, because they carried out a evil plan against the Aramean nation to “Assyrianize” them; a plan which was initiated by the immoral and apostate western Christianity. Therefore PKK should apologize for this crime and stop with glorifying it. It is a worst form of genocide!

    Annex 1

    The Kurds apologize for the first time

    30 December 2008/21:50

    During his visit to the Syrian Cultural Association in Midyat in the province of Mardin, the Chairman of DTP, Ahmet Turk, made an apologize to the Syrians for the events which took place in the year 1915.

    Perhaps, we the Kurds had also played a role in the killings of these (cutural) heritages.

    When I encounter today a Armenian and Syrian brothers and look at them, we feel ashamed”, he said.

    We Apologize

    The leader of DTP who came to Midyat in the district Mardin along with the general secretary and Mardin parliamentarian Emine Ayna, Diyarbekir parliamentarian Aysel Tugluk and Sanliurfa parliamentarian Ibrahim Binici, visited together tourist and historical places in the province.

    After that, they visited under leadership of chairman Turk of DTP, de Syrian Cultural Association in Midyat and spoke with the Chairman Yuhanna Aktas and the members of the association.

    On the reality of the events of 1915, the DTP leader Ahmet Turk said this:

    Because of the sorrow of the heartrending events, we feel necessary to apologize”.

    When we see Armenians and Syrians, we feel ashamed.

    Qualifying the geography of Mesopotamia and the place of civilizations, Turk went on in this way:

    The Kurds, Armenians, and Yezidis live as distinct ethnics, with their faith, without discrimination very well with each other.

    With the protection of preventing discrimination, we will become god people.

    Of course our brothers Armenians, our brothers Syrians have lived under the process of continued sorrow.

    Our Kurdish brothers suffer today the same sorrow.

    We should not forget that in the past the Kurds have been used against other brothers, a factual happening to search the history very well for it and it is important to learn lessons from that history.

    Perhaps, we the Kurds had also played a role in the killings of these (cultural) heritages.

    When I encounter today a Armenian and Syrian brothers and look at them, we feel ashamed.

    This also I wanted to state clearly”.

    Ahmet Turk and the DTP board visited after that the Deyrulummer monstery situated in the Midyat district and spoke with bishop Samuel Aktas of Tur Abdin.

    Annex 2

    Makes An Apology to the Syrians

    31.12.2008 01:35

    During his visit to the Syrian Cultural Association in Midyat in the province of Mardin, the Chairman of DTP, Ahmet Turk, made an apologize to the Syrians for the events which took place in the year 1915.

    During his visit to the Syrian Cultural Association in Midyat in the province of Mardin, the Chairman of DTP, Ahmet Turk, made an apologize to the Syrians for the events which took place in the year 1915.

    Qualifying the geography of Mesopotamia and the place of civilizations, Turk went on in this way: “The Kurds, Armenians, and Yezidis live as distinct ethnics, with their faith, without discrimination very well with each other.

    Our Kurdish brothers suffer today the same sorrow.

    We should not forget that in the past the Kurds have been used against other brothers, a factual happening to search the history very well for it and it is important to learn lessons from that history.

    When I encounter today a Armenian and Syrian brothers and look at them, we feel ashamed.

    Because of the sorrow of the heartrending events, we feel necessary to apologize.

    This also I wanted to state clearly”.

    Note

    Picture: Kurdish chieftain Soto among Aramaean doctors to whose advise he sought when ill; later he engaged his forces against them, and died in fight at the times of WW I (http://www.aina.org/books/fla/fla.htm).

  • Journalist of Turkish origin, under protection after menaces

    Journalist of Turkish origin, under protection after menaces

     

    OFFICE-TKG

       

    Belcikada neler oluyor? Asagida gelen Türkce ve Ingilizce e-postalari dikkatlere sakince okumak amaci ile sunuyoruz. Asagida yazi ‚dogrular ile yanlislarin birbirine karistirildigi’ va amaci karalama ve camaura cekme girisimi olan bir propaganda calismasi olabilri. Dogru ise cok üzücü bir gelisme ile karsi, karsiyayiz. Asgidaki yazi Türkce ve Ingilizce AB ülkelerinin her tarafina yollandigini tahmin ediyoruz!

     


    Von: inci@tugsavul.be [mailto:inci@tugsavul.be]
    Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2008 09:22

    Betreff: Türk gazeteci Dogan Özgüden Belçika’da tehditlere karsi koruma altina alindi

    Belga Ajansı’nın haberi

    Türk Gazeteci Doğan Özgüden

    Belçika’da tehditlere karşı koruma altına alındı

    11.12.08 – 19.38 (BELGA) –  Bağımsız internet sitesi İnfo-Türk’ün yöneticisi Türk kökenli gazeteci Doğan Özgüden’in, kendisine yönelen tehditler karşısında Belçika otoritelerince koruma altına alındığı perşembe günü açıklandı.

    Özgüden, Brüksel’deki Türkiye Büyükelçiliği’ndeki bir tören sırasında Türkiye Milli Savunma Bakanı Vecdi Gönül’ün Rumların ve Ermenilerin Türkiye’den tehcir edilmesi politikasını övdüğünü İnfo-Türk’te duyurmuştu. Yine İnfo-Türk’e göre, aynı tören sırasında Büyükelçi Fuat Tanlay’ın kendisi de Türk bayrağını öven kin dolu bir şiir okumuştu: “Sana benim gözümle bakmayanın mezarını kazacağım. Seni selamlamadan uçan kuşun yuvasını bozacağım.”

    Söz konusu kişilere yönelik eleştiriler üzerine Beltürk başta olmak üzere hükümet yanlısı birçok sitede, İnfo-Türk’e karşı, genel yayın yönetmeni Doğan Özgüden’in linçedilmesini teşvike kadar varan bir kampanya açıldığını belirten Ecolo Senatörü Josy Dubié, kendisinin korunması için özel önlemler alınıp alınmadığı konusunda İçişleri Bakanı Patrick Dewael’e perşembe günü Senato’da soru yöneltti.

    Dewael’e vekaleten soruyu yanıtlayan Devlet Sekreteri Jean-Marc Délizée, şu açıklamayı yaptı: “Özgüden’in dosyası, tehdide maruz şahsiyetlerin, kamu görevlilerinin ve bireylerin korunmasına ilişkin Başsavcılar Kurulu Genelgesi uyarınca Genel Kriz Merkezi Yönetimi’ne iletilmiştir. Ancak teslim etmek gerekir ki, Özgüden’le ilgili olarak alınan koruma önlemlerinin neler olduğunun açıklanması kendisinin güvenliği açısından mümkün değildir.”

    Senatör Dubié bakanın bu açıklamasıyla gazetecinin koruma altına alındığı güvencesi verilmiş olduğunu umduğunu söyledi. Délizée de, senatörü, “Bunu teyid ediyoruz,” diye yanıtladı.

    Doğan Özgüden, ayrıca, kendisine karşı şiddet ve linç kışkırtması yapanlar aleyhine Kraliyet Savcılığı’na bir şikayet dosyası iletmiş bulunuyor.

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    INFO-TURK

    Tel: (32-2) 215 35 76

    Fax: (32-2) 215 58 60

     


    Von: inci@tugsavul.be [mailto:inci@tugsavul.be]
    Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2008 11:08

    Betreff: Turkish journalist Dogan Özgüden under protection after menaces

    Flash Belga:

    Dogan Özgüden, Journalist of Turkish origin,

    under protection after menaces

    11.12.08 – 19:38 –  (Belga) -A Belgian journalist of Turkish origin, Dogan Özgüden, who edits the independent internet site “Info-Türk”, has been taken under protection by Belgian authorities after the menaces against his integrity, announced on Thursday.

    Mr. Özgüden had recently echoed a ceremony at the Turkish Embassy during which Turkish National Defense Minister Vecdi Gönül, according to Info-Türk, praised the policy of deportation of Greeks and Armenians from Turkey. Again according to Info-Türk, during the ceremony, Turkish Ambassador Fuat Tanlay himself read a poem praising the Turkish flag and full of hatred: “I dig the grave of those who do not watch you with my eyes. I ruin  the nest of birds which fly without greeting you.”

    Following this information calling into question these authorities, many pro-government sites, of which Beltürk, have launched against Info-Türk a campaign going up to incitement to lynching its chief editor, Dogan Özgüden, according to Senator Josy Dubié who questioned on Thursday Interior Minister Patrick Dewael if particular measures were taken for this journalist’s protection.

    “The file of Mr. Özgüden has been transmitted to the Crisis Center General Directory within the frame of the circular letter (…) of the Board of General Prosecutors by the Appeal Courts concerning the protection of personalities, public servants and private persons under menace”, said at the Senate the State Secretary Jean-Marc Délizée who replaced Mr. Dewael. “You should understand however that for the interest of Mr. Özgüden’s security, it is not possible to communicate possible measures of protection that were taken as regards him,” he added.

    Senator Dubié said he hopes that the minister’s reply means that the concerned has been placed under protection. “I confirm it,” said Mr. Délizée in answer.

    Dogan Özgüden has also put a complaint to the Royal Prosecutor against the instigators to violence and lynching.

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    INFO-TURK

    Tel: (32-2) 215 35 76

    Fax: (32-2) 215 58 60

  • GUENTER LEWY PROVED THERE IS NO GENOCIDE

    GUENTER LEWY PROVED THERE IS NO GENOCIDE

    The AFATH community is busy plastering anti-Turkish messages on any blog they can get their hands on. This is why I coined a new term back in 2003: Ethocide. A brief meaning of ethocide is: “extermination of ethics via malicious mass deception for political and other gain.”

    I hear you say: “So the AFATH community writers resort to ethocidal coverage of the Turkish-Armenian conflict. What else is new?” I agree, nothing new for 93 years… Make that since 1877… Their hate messages, however, suffer from lack of credibility, as Dr. Gwynne Dyer put it so eloquently in 1976:

    “… The deafening drumbeat of the propaganda, and the sheer lack of sophistication in argument which comes from preaching decade after decade to a convinced and emotionally committed audience, are the major handicaps of Armenian historiography of the diaspora today…”

    There are those cyber-thugs with questionable morals, cyber-stalkers with convoluted messages, and a whole cyber community of insulters and slanderers to whom concepts like Armenian terrorism means nothing. I suggest to my readers not to address their postings to these cyber-lynch-mobs, but to the open-minded truth-seekers. The minds of these cyber-lynch-mobs cannot be changed, but the other side of the story can certainly be told to fair-minded truth-seekers.

    AFTER ALL, OUR MESSAGE IS VERY SIMPLE

    Wartime suffering ?

    Yes, but on all sides, Turks, Armenians, and others, alike…

    Genocide?

    No, not even by a long shot.

    The term genocide does not apply to warring factions; never did. Armenians were certainly “de facto belligerents” with an army of more than 150,000, as Nubar, head of Armenian delegation to Paris Peace Conference, himself wrote in 1919. That army was not created for picking flowers.

    A court verdict does not exist supporting Armenian genocide claims. Insisting on a guilty judgment without a court verdict, therefore, boils down to lynching.

    And that is the plain truth.

    MARK TWAIN

    Mark Twain once said “It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them.” AFATH writers prove Mark Twain right everyday by attacking the freedoms of speech and conscience of all Turkish-Americans, with their posture tainted by anti-Turkish discrimination.

    HOW THE AFATH WRITERS COMMIT ETHOCIDE

    By only telling one side of the story and hiding the other. One will tell you, for example, about an article demonizing Turkey and Turks, but will fail to tell you the rebuttal to it in the same column.

    Or he will tell you about Guenter Lewy’s quotes out of context, but will not tell you about the fact that there may have been comments setting the record straight. That’s AFATH morality for you.

    If one chooses to believe the AFATH writers with “selective morality”, that is that person’s problem. Trying to silence people like me who are only telling their side of the story, calling them names for doing so, and basing this lynch-mob-like behavior on the long discredited Armenian propaganda, however, is hardly fair, ethical, or American, whether in journalism, academia, or politics.

    The Armenians have defined the Turkish-Armenian conflict one way, their way, for 93 years. Even this could be understood within the context of ethnic and/or religious fanaticism. After all, it is a free country, you can believe whatever you want, even that the world is flat.

    Problem arises when the Armenians demand their claims be declared as settled history with zero tolerance for the other side of the story, coming from Turks and non-Turks alike. The problem turns into a criminal conduct when these demands turn to violence, as in Armenian terrorism that claimed 70+ innocent lives (three right here in Southern California) since 1973, aimed at imposing the Armenian will on others.

    Whether the Armenian claims of genocide are recognized by this country or that, does not change the fact that Armenians engineered, provoked, and waged a civil war within a world war; took up arms against their own government; killed their Muslim/Turkish neighbors; joined the invading enemy armies; demanded territories where they were a minority to create Greater Armenia; and did all that with the help of active allies (Russia, Britain, France), passive allies (U.S. diplomats, Protestant missionaries, the New York Times) and others.

    THE SIX T’S SUMMARIZE THE TURKISH-ARMENIAN CONFLICT WELL

    1- Tumult (Armenians taking up arms against their own government;)

    2- Terrorism (by Dashnaks, Hunchaks, and other such Armenian terror groups;)

    3- Treason (Armenians joining the invading enemy armies;)

    4- Territorial demands (where Armenians were a minority attempting apartheid;)

    5- Turkish suffering (at the hands of Armenian revolutionaries and terrorists; number exceeds half a million Muslims, mostly Turks)

    6-Tereset (temporary resettlement triggered by the above 5 T’s and misrepresented by Armenians as genocide.)

    MY OBJECTIONS TO LEWY

    I praised the world renown Historian Guenter Lewy for the damning conclusion in his article titled “Revisiting the Armenian Genocide” published in Fall 2005 edition of Middle East Quarterly ( https://www.meforum.org/895/correspondence ):

    ” …Most of those who maintain that Armenian deaths were premeditated and so constitute genocide base their argument on three pillars: the actions of Turkish military courts of 1919-20,…, the role of the so-called “Special Organization” accused of carrying out the massacres, and the Memoirs of Naim Bey, which contain alleged telegrams of Interior Minister Talât Pasha…. Yet when these events and the sources describing them are subjected to careful examination, they provide at most a shaky foundation from which to claim, let alone conclude, that the deaths of Armenians were premeditated….”

    Can you see how masterfully Lewy refutes the Armenian allegations with just a few simple words?

    My hat is off to Lewy. I was so impressed that I bought and read Lewy’s book. I did have some objections about some of the arguments and sources in his book which were conveyed to Lewy himself in a letter signed by yours truly two years ago:

    1) Lewy seems to have spent spent little or no time describing the immense Turkish suffering and death toll at the hands of the Armenian nationalists. In my humble opinion, any treatment that fails to take into account the Turkish side of the story is inherently and inevitably incomplete and biased. No one can explain a controversy by completely ignoring half the story.

    2) Lewy also seems to have made very limited use of the Ottoman archives (perhaps due to his lack of skills in reading the original documents in the Ottoman language which is understandable but perhaps not easily excusable.

    3) He took at face value most of reporting from Anatolia by biased sources: the Armenian Patriarchate, ARF, Armenian insurgents, allied diplomats, military personnel, missionaries, and others who all clearly had vested interests in the conflict and/or were parties to the civil war and/or the world war, raging concurrently.

    4) others

    Having pointed out my objections to his book this way, I must emphasize that none of my objections above change the ultimate conclusion by Lewy that the Turkish-Armenian conflict, as tragic as it was, cannot be classified as genocide.

    That conclusion stands on its own feet and I congratulate and praise Lewy for that… eternally.

    Peace,

    Ergun KIRLIKOVALI
    Son Of Turkish Survivors From Both Maternal And Paternal Sides

    www.turkla.com

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    Legend:

    AFATH : Armenian Falsifiers And Turks-Haters

    ETHOCIDE: Systematic extermination of ethics via malicious mass deception for political, social, academic, religious, ratings, and/or other gain.”