Tag: Armenians in Turkey

  • Which country do you prefer, Turkey or Azerbaijan, as an Armenian?

    Which country do you prefer, Turkey or Azerbaijan, as an Armenian?

    Artur Aslanyan answers the question on Quora:

    Originally Answered: Which country do you prefer, Turkey or Azerbaijan, as a an Armenian?

    I find it amusing that this question is meant for Armenians and yet Turks and Azerbaijanis are answering it.

    There is no choice really. Hundreds of Armenians travel in and out of Turkey every day (including from Armenia). Nearly no Armenians travel in and out of Azerbaijan. This “voting with feet” should answer the question.

    The Republic of Turkey does not discriminate against Armenians entering and traveling the country. The Republic of Azerbaijan nearly universally denies all Armenians of the world entry. As a result, many Armenians (myself included) travel to Turkey and have fond associations and experiences there, where as such a thing is not possible with Azerbaijan.

  • Famous Turkish people of Armenian origin

    Famous Turkish people of Armenian origin

    Meet Alex Tataryan. He is the singer of this beautiful Turkish song!

    Hayko Cepkin-Turkish rocker of Armenian descent!

    Rober Hatemo-singer

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    His legendary Turkish songs

    Onno Tunç-Turkish musician and composer of Armenian origin. The musician behind the Turkish pop music of the 90s. All the hits!

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    Arto Dalga – ArmenianTurkish singer known for his spiky speeches and scandals. He is currently in a tabloid program that is a troublemaker of Turkish celebrities, Soylemezsem Olmaz.

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    Garo Mafyan-Another musician behind the Turkish pop music of the 90s.

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    Dikran Masis, Turkish-Armenian businessman.

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  • How is it to be Armenian in Turkey?

    How is it to be Armenian in Turkey?

    It’s definitely an interesting experience.

    The Armenian community of today’s Turkey is tight-knit, and the vast majority of us live in a few upper-middle-class neighborhoods in Istanbul. Being in Istanbul certainly helps our community. People here are used to being surrounded by people of wide variety of backgrounds, so we face less bigotry here than if we lived in a city like Konya or Kayseri where there are almost no Armenians and non-Muslims. We tend to have above-average incomes and live comfortable lifestyles.

    Most Turkish-Armenian express their identity through their religion. The Church really is what keeps our community together and our identity alive. I’d say most Armenians are more religious than the average Turk of the same upper-middle-class background that we are. Most Turkish-Armenians can no longer speak Armenian and are pretty much fully switched over to Turkish. Roughly 18% of the community speaks the language, and those are mostly older people. I’m one of the around 8% of Armenian youth in Turkey who can still speak the language fluently. My parents made my siblings and I learn it, and I’m grateful for it. Armenian has been spoken in Turkey for millennia, and I’m doing my part to keep it alive.

    There is a lot of vitriolic rhetoric against Armenians in Turkey. My church has repeatedly found racist, anti-Armenian graffiti on the church walls. It’s disgusting, and no one ever talks about it. Sometimes I’ll have acquaintances say something very xenophobic about Armenians but they’ll say when they realize that I’m Armenian, “But Ani, you’re not like those other Armenians…” Historically, many Armenians were forced to adopt Turkish surnames including my family, but after that law was repealed, my family reverted back to our traditional family name of Manukyan. My parents are extremely proud of being Armenian, and they wanted their children’s names to go before them, indicating that they are Armenian, so when they had me, they named me Ani, a very common Armenian name that comes from the name of the historic capital of the Armenian Empire. My parents actually took me to Ani over the summer, and I just remember sobbing as I was walking through the ruins of this once grand city. It seemed like the physical embodiment of what happened to the Armenian community of Anatolia, just in ruins, with barely anything left. That’s a potent, emotional symbol for us.

    It’s not all gloom and doom though! There has been more curiosity about Armenian culture and religion from Turks over recent years, and the Armenian community is more than happy to tell them about us. I’ll often get good questions about my faith, language, culture, and traditions, and I just love talking about it. My culture is something I’m proud of. There has also been a greater level of acceptance of us among the Turkish, secular upper-middle-classes. There is no longer as much social isolation for Turkish-Armenians. The Turkish upper-middle-class used to exclude us, and now, we are becoming an accepted part of it, at least in Istanbul. Another good thing about living here is we have a lot more economic opportunity in Turkey than we ever would in Armenia. In Armenia, we would have lower incomes and less available, quality employment.

    It’s really a mixed bag, but I’m optimistic that things will get better for us. The young Armenian people of Turkey are determined to stay here, continue the presence of the Armenian community in Turkey, and do our best with our circumstances.

    Ani Manukyan

  • Greeks, Turks and Armenians

    Greeks, Turks and Armenians

    How do Greeks, Turks and Armenians feel about each other’s countries?

    I feel sad. Deeply sad.

    We could be a great! A united superpower, if we had stood together and haven’t killed each other in hundreds of thousands.

    Yes Ottomans mistreated Armenians, mistreated Greeks but they certainly mistreated Turks too.

    In the end it was Turkish Kemalists who pulled the rug under the Ottoman Sultanate, It was us who destroyed the caliphate. We finished the work which we all Greeks, Armenians and Turks started together in the first place. I am talking about the Young Turk movement.

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    Yes we forced the first constitution together. Here Turkish, Greek and Armenian leaders signing.

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    Our great endeavor was hijacked and sabotaged. Minorities sought their own independent small and weak countries. Organizations got corrupted, people sought personal glory. We were led to slaughter each other by the imperialistic powers.

    Even after such brutality, all of us Greek, Armenian and Turk we still miss our collective songs, cuisine, our neighborhood. When outside in a mixed nationality Turks and Greeks always find each other. Its always the Greek guy who laughs when the other stare confused by the lame ass naughty joke the Turk makes.

    Greeks were the great intellectuals and traders, Armenians were the great craftsman and artisans, Turks were the farmers, herders, great soldiers.

    Divide and Conquer was at its best.

    Today we would have none of the worries, State would be much more secular with strong and healthy non-Muslim population. We would have no conflict in the Mediterranean. Caucasian region would be secure. None of the tragedies would have happened.

    Here is a song which the lyrics are adopted by Bülent Ecevit. Here the songs goes like

    Sıla derdine düşünce anlarsın (When you get home sick you understand)
    Yunanlıyla kardeş olduğunu (You are brothers with the Greek)
    Bir rum şarkısı duyunca gör (When you hear a Greek song, You will see )
    Gurbet elde İstanbul çocuğunu (A fellow child of Istanbul, alone in a foreign land)

    Türkçenin ferah gönlünce küfretmişiz (We swore in open hearted Turkish)
    Olmuşuz kanlı bıçaklı (We feuded)
    Yine de bir sevgidir içimizde (But its love that is in our hearts)
    Böyle barış günlerinde saklı (It surfaces in times of peace)

    Bir soyun kanı olmasın varsın (Let a clan not be about blood)
    Damarlarımızda akan kan (The blood that is running through our veins)
    İçimizde şu deli rüzgâr (The crazy wind blows inside)
    Bir havadan (İs of the same air)

    Bu yağmurla cömert (Generous is the rain)
    Bu güneşle sıcak (Warm is the sun)
    Gönlümüzden bahar dolusu kopan (Our hearts full of springs)
    İyilikler kucak kucak (Goodness is aplenty)

    Bu sudan bu tattandır ikimizde de günah (From this water, from this taste is the sin for both of us)
    Bütün içkiler gibi zararı kadar leziz (Tasty as sin, as all the harms of drinks)
    Bir iklimin meyvasından sızdırılmış (Distilled from the same fruit of this climate),
    Bir içkidir kötülüklerimiz (Our evils are one drinks)

    Aramızda bir mavi büyü (A blue magic between us)
    Bir sıcak deniz (A warm and gentle sea)
    Kıyılarında birbirinden güzel (With coasts as beautiful as any)
    İki milletiz (We are two peoples)

    Bizimle dirilecek bir gün (One day together we will resurrect)
    Ege’nin altın çağı (The golden age of the Aegean)
    Yanıp yarının ateşinden (Tomorrow the new fire will burn)
    Eskinin ocağı (The old oven)

    Önce bir kahkaha çalınır kulağına (First you will hear a familiar laughter)
    Sonra rum şiveli türkçeler (They you will hear Turkish in Greek accent)
    O Boğaz’dan söz eder (He or She speaks about the Bosphorus)
    Sen rakıyı hatırlarsın (And you remember the Rakı)

    Yunanlıyla kardeş olduğunu (You remember you are Brothers with the Greek)
    Sıla derdine düşünce anlarsın (When you get homesick)

  • Armenian “Settled History Syndrome”: An affliction that runs deep in the media

    Armenian “Settled History Syndrome”: An affliction that runs deep in the media

    By Ferruh Demirmen

    Anyone who tries to see or instill a measure of balance or open mindedness in the Western media on the question of Armenian “genocide” will soon discover he/she is out of luck. For the phenomenon, which I call the “Settled History Syndrome,” is not only palpable, but also widespread. It runs deep in the media across Europe and America. It is not new, but deserves special recognition under a name of its own – hence the term coined here. It is the product of year-in, year-out incessant propaganda perpetrated by the Armenian lobby on the so-called “Armenian genocide.”

    The syndrome explains how a group of certain historians or scholars, supposedly open minded, gather to discuss Armenian “genocide,” but colleagues who disagree are kept away as misguided renegades.

    It explains why anyone who challenges the Armenian version of history is labeled “Genocide denier,” often citing a self-appointed group called ”The International Association of Genocide Scholars“ as the infallible arbiter.

    It explains how minds are frozen, debate is stifled, and freedom of opinion is trampled upon – truth being the ultimate casualty.

    It explains how money and influence, fed by prejudice, create a cadre of ill-informed politicians and general public. The media, itself thrown into deep freeze, commonly plays the role of the facilitator.

    Turks who want to fight unfounded accusations from the Armenian side must first deal with this mindset affecting the media.

    Examples are myriad. I will first relay an anecdote, then continue with a recent example, both from America. No doubt, what goes on in America also goes on in Europe, with some mutations.

    The PBS Episode

    Time is early 2006. PBS, the national Public Broadcasting Service in America, is planning to air on April 17 a supposed TV documentary called “Armenian Genocide.” The film, directed by Andrew Goldberg and bankrolled by more than 30 largely Armenian foundations in America, will surely be an anti-Turkish diatribe based on distorted history. I and a small group of Turks and Turkish Americans contact the PBS headquarters in Alexandria , Virginia, to protest the screening of a one-sided story. (As it turned out, the film shamelessly started with a macabre scene of human skulls taken from a 1871 painting by a Russian artist. For a fuller account, see F. Demirmen, Turkish Daily News, April 24, 2006). We argued that, if PBS decides to go ahead with the screening, it should also show, as a balancing act, “The Armenian Revolt,” a newly released documentary directed by Marty Callaghan.

    The PBS headquarters did not change its mind. And the screening of “The Armenian Revolt” was out of consideration.

    I then took my case to the affiliate of PBS in Houston Texas, which was also planning to air “Armenian genocide.” Commenting on the film, the channel’s website carried the statement: “The International Association of Genocide Scholars affirms that the number of Armenian deaths at the hands of Ottoman Turks …” It was a reminder to the viewers that the “genocide” was a shut case.

    Nonetheless, I thought I should still try to educate the Houston channel, that what they would be airing was a prejudiced and distorted story. To that end, I contacted the programming director and sent him some archival material. After back-and-forth correspondence, I had my fingers crossed. At the end, the channel didn’t change its plans, but the programming director made an admission, which was revealing. He remarked that until I contacted him, they had assumed that “genocide” was a “settled history.”

    It was a Lilliputian victory. But it showed what the Turkish side is against: a mindset more or less frozen on its track.

    Pasadena Star Episode

    Fast forward 9 years. On January 15, 2015, the Pasadena Star in California published a news article titled: “Ground broken on Pasadena Armenian Genocide Memorial.” It was an announcement that the monument would be completed on April 18, ahead of the “100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide on April 24.” Pasadena happens to be next door to Los Angeles, a hotbed of Diaspora activism.

    As the Star put it, the monument would take “the form of a 16-foot-tall tripod … with water drops dripping … to represent each of the 1.5 million lives cut short by the Ottoman Turks in the Armenian Genocide of 1915 to 1923.” The droplets would “fall every 21 seconds, so that 1.5 million drops will fall annually.” The tripod would represent “similarly shaped structures which Armenian leaders were hanged from during the Armenian Genocide.” Surrounding the tripod and stonework would be “12 pomegranate trees, representing each of the 12 lost provinces of Armenia.”

    Pictures of Armenian clerics solemnly praying at the ground breaking ceremony and an artist’s rendition of the tripod-shaped monument were included in the news.

    The description and symbolism were chilling; but infused in all was a prejudiced and distorted history. Particularly notable in the article was the absolutist tone in the language. “Genocide” was treated as a fact, with no hint as to its disputable character.

    Considering their mindset, I hesitated contacting the Star to express my disagreement that Armenian “genocide” is a fact. But the invitation at the end of the article, for readers to engage in “insightful conversations,“ was too good to resist. I also thought that, instead of sending a short blog, I should lay out my arguments in a full article so as to enlighten them. I informed the Star of my intention to submit a dissenting view, and proposed that they publish it as a stand-alone contribution by a guest writer. Their initial reaction was encouraging. They asked me to send in my article.

    In the article I took special care to acknowledge Armenian sufferings and losses, but also mentioned sufferings and losses on the Muslim side. I pointed to certain facts, and made corrections to some of the allegations in the article. I also tried to strike a conciliatory note, referring to the calls of Armenian religious leaders in Turkey, and pointed to the poisoning effect such a monument would have on the Armenian-Turkish relations in America. It was an appeal for “peace.” While I did not expect they would agree with my views, my expectations were high that the Star would publish my article – if for no reason than journalistic curiosity and respect for dissenting views.

    The response from the Star was an eye opener:

    “Yes. We don’t print op-eds by Holocaust deniers, nor articles denying the settled history of the Armenian genocide, recognized now by 23 countries and by the vast majority of scholars and historians not in the pay of the Turkish government.”

    So, I was a “Genocide denier,” and Armenian “genocide” was a settled history, the arbiter presumably being the all-knowing International Association of Genocide Scholars. Case shut. Opinions and facts brought forward by others will not change anything.

    The response was the embodiment of a frozen mind. Frozen in time, frozen in space. Here was another example of the “Settled History Syndrome.”

  • AMERICAN BOYZ N THE HOOD

    AMERICAN BOYZ N THE HOOD

    Turkish Soldiers Hooded by America Sulaymaniyah, Iraq. 4 July 2003
    Turkish Soldiers Hooded by America
    Sulaymaniyah, Iraq. 4 July 2003

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Istanbul: 13 November 2014

    Yesterday, three sailors from the uncontrollably violent neighborhood called America met the true face of Turkey. Poor boys, they don’t even know what they represent. They don’t even know that their so-called leaders have made them punching bags for its criminal enterprise called American imperialism. They don’t even know how America and its treasonous internal agents, in particular the Turkish government, are attempting to destroy the future of the Turkish youth.

    Perhaps these American boys got a quick lesson in the true nature of Turkish-American relations yesterday? But, sadly, probably not. The American boys ran back to the false safety of their warship, re-entering their “safe” world of imperialist propaganda, economic excess and hypocrisy. But there is no safety anywhere any longer. That is the gift of America to Turkey, and to the world. As usual, America authorities and its treacherous collaborating Turkish puppets screamed in outrage. And, as usual, the youth of Turkey, the true defenders of the Republic of Turkey, went to jail for exercising their patriotic duty. Nothing has changed, except one thing. Turkish young people, the nation’s true patriotic voice, will not take American crap anymore. And America should understand that. Listen and learn, America. You owe it to your own youth. Think of it this way, think of it as a symbol.

    That’s the way the resident American-imposed agent of destruction, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, thought about his hooding of Turkish women into a grotesque series of Middle Age costumes that squeeze feminine brains into numb submission. So what, declared the then prime minister, if the head scarf is a political symbol? So what, indeed! Erdoğan used his compliant covered women to destroy democracy in his own country. He and his collaborators hid behind their women’s headscarves to do America’s dirty work. And now they cannot safely visit any neighborhood in their own land. No “hood” is safe for the hoodlums. And now the new president hides in a billion-dollar illegal palace, his inadvertent monument to treason. So what if he and his ilk cannot appear in public! So what!

    So what if in 1980 the American president celebrated the success of his CIA-engineered military coup by proclaiming “Our boys did it!” Yes, then his gangster BOYZ did it. And yesterday, today’s Turkish youth remembered. And yesterday, our Turkish boys did it to America, symbolically, of course, because Turkish youth is civilized. They can be no other way; they are the current-day “soldiers of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.” This is something that the treacherous opposition political polities can neither say nor understand. Yes, Turkish young people are civilized and enlightened by the patriotic principles of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. That’s why, yesterday, no one, neither American boy nor Turkish boy was hurt. No one was tortured. No one was hung. No one was shot, exploded, beaten, gassed, or otherwise maimed. And that’s a lot more than America can ever say about their overt and covert interventions in Turkey’s affairs.

    So what if America and its craven ambassador, Francis Ricciardone, aided and abetted the Turkish government in its beating, gassing, maiming and murdering of democratically assembled Gezi Park protestors. “The Turkish government is having a conversation with its people,” said the deceitful ambassador, as he arranged to have more poisonous gas sold to Erdoğan and his hoodlum police. A “conversation?” So what!

    So what if the same ambassador conspired with the main opposition party leader to assure the election of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to the presidency!

    So what if yesterday the American boys’ heads momentarily felt the experience of being symbolically hooded! Symbolically hooded, not actually hung like so many patriotic Turkish young people have been. And by their own government! The Turkish people have been strangled and hooded by America, by its CIA meddlers and by its corrupt politicians for decades. And in the past decade of Erdoğan’s treacherous rule, America’s CIA “boys” have done it again. Or tried to.

    So what if America has used its youth to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in its deceitful, illegal war of aggression!

    So what if America has humiliated the Turkish military by hooding its soldiers in Iraq in July 2003!

    So what if America has conspired with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Jordan to kill hundreds of thousands of Syrians in its deceitful pretext of bringing democracy!

    So what if America has supported the treasonous, under-educated, Islamic zealot, CIA-asset, Fethullah Gulen for decades in the Pennsylvania countryside!

    So what if Gulen and Erdoğan have collaborated for decades in treacherous union to do America’s bidding in the subversion of the Turkish Republic! So what if the Turkish Army has been destroyed! So what if the independence of the Turkish judiciary has collapsed! So what if rivers have been stopped, farmers’ fields uprooted, forests felled, eternal olive trees murdered, lakes polluted, mountains plundered, the air made poisonous, all in pursuit of private profit, all indicative of massive governmental corruption! So what if the government has looted public funds! So what if the Turkish mass media slithers like a reptile on its overstuffed belly doing the bidding of its governmental master! So what if Turkey stinks from America’s subversion like a rotting corpse in the noonday sun!

    Yes, SO WHAT?

    Yesterday, clearly, directly, in a street-theater performance, Turkish “boyz” encountered American “boyz” in the Turkish “hood.” The US embassy in Turkey called the incident “appalling.” What is appalling is the embassy’s ignorance and arrogance. What is appalling is the criminal behavior of its criminal boss, the president of the United States. It is he and Erdoğan and all their co-conspirators, all the ones who need protection by regiments of armed-to-the-teeth goons, who deserve to be hooded. And now they can never step foot in our hood, ever again. Not ever! That’s the message from yesterday. Take your warships and your political puppets and go!

    James C. Ryan

    Istanbul

    13 November 2014