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  • Hundreds of Turkish shopkeepers take to the streets in north London to defend their businesses

    Hundreds of Turkish shopkeepers take to the streets in north London to defend their businesses

    Dalston Turks‘We don’t do water cannon, we rely on consent’: May rules out tough action as vigilantes are forced to defend shops

    Hundreds of Turkish shopkeepers take to the streets in north London to defend their businessesTheresa May: ‘We need robust policing but we also need to ensure that justice is done through the courts’Police cells in the capital are full after hundreds of arrests over three nights of riotingSenior officers complain Met police ‘rudderless’ since Sir Paul Stephenson left

    Vigilantes were forced onto the streets last night to protect their homes and businesses after police failed to materialise at many of the scenes of looting and violence which swept across London.As officers lost control of the streets locals were forced to take the law into their own hands, arming themselves with sticks and chasing looters away from their properties.In Dalston and Hackney, north-east London, Turkish shopkeepers and their families fought back against looting youths, before spending the night standing shoulder-to-shoulder in an attempt to deter further attacks.One man said: ‘This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.’Despite increasing calls for the police to get tough with the rioters, Home Secretary Theresa May today sparked anger as she appeared to dismiss the notions that water cannons and even the Army could be used to ensure violent scenes are not repeated tonight.As police were slammed for appearing to let looters run riot under their noses, Mrs May instead advocated a more softly-softly approach.She said: ‘The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.’

    On Shacklewell Lane, the Turkish community was hailed across Twitter as being the force which saved the area from wanton destruction.After a single-deck bus was burned out, stick-wielding shopkeepers chased away a gang of youngsters before standing defiant in the face of further violence.One, who would not give his name, said: ‘We beat up four of them quite badly and they ran off.’ Another said: ‘This is not justice, coming here and trying to attack us.’ In testament to the men’s bravery, several businesses on the street remained open as usual, unlike other areas where shopkeepers had heeded police advice to shut their doors early.Guardian reporter Paul Lewis described the scenes on Kingsland Road, Hackney, as Turkish men clashed with youths, tweeting: ‘Kingsland Road chaotic as Turkish men attack other, predominantly black, youths with sticks, metal barricades and bricks.’
    In a further tweet Mr Lewis quoted a man carrying a stick as saying: ‘This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.’South of the river in Tooting, near to Clapham, where high streets were ravaged, Asian shopkeepers shut up early and stood guard outside their stores with their relatives to protect them.A local resident, who asked not to be named, said: ‘With no police on the streets, it could’ve been a free-for-all for criminals. I’m so relieved it didn’t kick off round here last night. If it had kicked off I dread to think what would have happened.’Meanwhile, in Clapham, residents accused the police of ‘doing nothing’ to stop opportunistic looters pillaging the area’s high street. Shops including department Debenhams were stripped bare by rioters who arrived in cars which they filled with whatever items they could steal.
    In spite of the fact that people were forced to take the law into their own hands to defend homes and businesses across the capital, Home Secretary Theresa May this morning seemed to rule out deploying the Army.David Cameron is now back in the capital after flying home early from Italy during the third night of horrific scenes with mobs burning buildings, looting shops and terrorising residents.The Prime Minister met with Mrs May and Acting Met Police chief Tim Godwin this morning before chairing a meeting of the Government’s emergency committee Cobra.Mrs May and Mayor of London Boris Johnson have also been forced to curtail their holidays and return as Scotland Yard battles to keep peace on the streets.Mrs May condemned the violence as ‘sheer criminality’ for which she said there was ‘no excuse’ but she downplayed suggestions the Army could be used to bolster police numbers.She said: ‘The disorder we’ve seen is at a level that hasn’t been seen for some years in this country. We do need to bring an end to it and we need to bring an end to it soon.”There is no excuse for these levels of criminality and it needs to be dealt with. These people need to see that there are consequences for their actions.’We need robust policing but we also need to ensure that justice is done through the courts and this will begin today.’She hailed the ‘strong leadership’ of the police as she called on local communities and parents to help efforts to keep the peace.Asked if the Army would be brought in, Mrs May said an end to the riots could be brought with policing, the use of intelligence and the help of local communities.’The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon,’ she said. ‘The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.’She also urged parents to keep tabs on their children and for the support of local communities to help police do their jobs.Some 6,000 officers were on duty in London last night as more than 20,000 999 calls were made. A total of 13,000 will be working in the city over the next 24 hours.Mr Godwin has also called on all special constables – volunteer police officers – to come in to further bolster numbers. The FA has now cancelled tomorrow’s friendly between England and Holland at Wembley to avoid further stretching police.
    More than 450 people have now been arrested since the violence first erupted on Saturday, with police cells across the capital now full. Three people were arrested last night on suspicion of attempting to kill a police officer.Commander Christine Jones, at Scotland Yard, said the events were ‘simply inexcusable’: ‘Ordinary people have had their lives turned upside down by this mindless thuggery.’Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh said all police leave has been cancelled and vowed ‘all able-bodied officers’ will be deployed. And he appeared to contradict the Home Secretary regarding the use of the Army by saying nothing had been ruled out.’The people of London need to know that the Commissioner and his management board team are considering everything and working through those options as we go forward,’ he said.
    Residents questioned why no police officers were available to combat rampant looting as thieves methodically cleared stores. Up to 300 officers were drafted in from Home Counties forces to bolster the response but they were overwhelmed by the sheer scale of the rioting.Residents in Clapham, Croydon, Peckham and Hackney complained at the absence of police officers during the worst confrontations. In Clapham, Owen MacCarthy, 28, a bank worker, said: ‘It’s disgusting. These kids are out to loot as much as they can and they won’t stop until they’ve got everything.’I have seen people rob things then go home and come back for more. We’ve been here for an hour and half and we haven’t seen a single police officer and these kids have no idea between right and wrong.’In Peckham, onlookers said they feared for their lives as people struggled to get through to emergency services by phone and police took a long time to arrive. Staff in a branch of Tesco Metro described how they hid as masked looters rampaged through the shop stealing alcohol and food.The manager said: ‘I was locked inside my store for 45 minutes before the police came and let me out. We phoned them at seven o’clock and they didn’t come until eight. We locked ourselves in the office.’They kicked the door in and looted everything – it was terrifying. I didn’t even know what to do. I had my seven staff inside with me.’Former London Mayor advisor Atma Singh tweeted: ‘The image of London on TV is lawlessness. The police has a duty to stop the violence & criminals. No excuses for inaction. It’s appalling.’Met Police officer Pc Paul Deller was in the control room overnight co-ordinating the response and admitted the force was overstretched. It had to send out non-specialist officers to tackle the rioters because ‘the box was empty’ of reinforcements,’ he said.’We simply ran out of units to send. That’s not something we would normally expose those officers to a risk of, but last night decisions were made that we had to and that’s what we did. We threw everything we had at it,’ he told the BBC.However, he defended the police effort – insisting they were doing everything possible to restore calm. We didn’t surrender the streets. Over 50 of my colleagues were injured last night defending those streets to the best of their capability. I don’t think at any point did we surrender.’By midnight flashpoints had multiplied around London, with Clapham, Hackney, Dalston, Peckham, Woolwich and Lewisham added to the list which already included Enfield, Walthamstow and Tottenham.And there were fears that the chaos could spread nationwide, with Croydon to the south of the capital ablaze, and even Birmingham and Bristol joining in the destruction as hundreds of youths smashed shop windows and looted the contents.At 2.30am the Metropolitan Police changed tactics in the Lavender Hill area of Clapham, introducing armoured vehicles to push back more than 150 people where substantial damage was being caused to shops and local businesses.Because the tactic was a success police are now considering using the same tactic elsewhere.Commander Christine Jones, said: ‘We are using tactics flexibly to respond to the disorder we are still seeing in different areas of the capital. ‘Anyone involved in criminality should be under no illusion that we will pursue you. ‘We have been making arrests all evening and have a team working during the night examining CCTV images. ‘We will follow up evidence in the coming days in order to bring anyone else responsible for criminal acts to justice.’With cars, shops and homes burning, police tactics were coming under ever-increasing attack.Riot officers were unable to deal  with the sheer scale of the violence and there were questions about the  Metropolitan force’s lack of leadership following the resignation of Sir Paul Stephenson.The police lack of control allowed mobs of children aged as young as seven to rampage through the streets at will. Mobs of masked youngsters, some on BMXs, roamed the streets ransacking stores in daylight and hurling petrol bombs at police. At least 35 officers were hurt and tens of millions of pounds of damage was caused to homes and businesses in ‘copycat criminal activity’ across London.
    Acting Metropolitan Police Commissioner Tim Godwin took the extraordinary step of appealing to parents whose children were running wild, telling them: ‘I do urge that parents start asking where they are.’David Cameron was forced to quit his holiday and fly back to chair an emergency summit this morning.The orgy of violence has its roots in the police shooting of suspected gangster Mark Duggan last Thursday.But by last night it had descended into ‘pure criminality’ and ‘thieving on a mass scale’.On another calamitous day for the capital, it emerged that:Some 334 arrests had been made, the youngest being a boy of 11;Police promised to track down the internet provocateurs who called on others to join the looting;Pamphlets were handed out advising thugs to burn clothes if caught on CCTV to evade capture.There were reports that Mark Duggan did not fire on police, but an officer shot him dead because he feared he was in danger from the gunman;It emerged that Duggan was armed with a blank-firing gun which had been converted to hold live ammunition;
    Last night London was in lockdown as police lined the streets braced for violence led by ‘burglars, thugs and bullies’.Scotland Yard invoked special powers in four trouble hotspots – Lambeth, Haringey, Enfield and Waltham Forest – allowing officers to stop and search suspects without reasonable suspicion.But the move backfired when violence erupted in Hackney, East London in retaliation to the search operation.There, armed gangs on BMX bicycles attacked a crowded bus during the evening rush-hour and then chased the screaming commuters as they tried to escape.Riot police were forced to evacuate homes in the area. Screaming children were led to safety as cars and buildings continued to burn.
    Police were unable to prevent the attacks because all the riot officers on the streets were caught up in running battles with gangs who pelted them with lumps of wood, chairs and bottles.The mob set fire to several buildings and three police cars. Witnesses reported seeing children aged as young as seven involved. They smashed the windows of stores, grabbing what they could before riot police arrived.Other thugs fought each other over a bag of diamonds which had fallen on to the street after it had been looted from a jewellers.A police officer could be seen lying on the ground after being struck on his shield by a missile.Other officers created a cordon around him while he was treated by colleagues.At one point child rioters tried to hijack a bus so they could drive it at police. As shop protective grilles were ripped up and a security camera smashed, two teenage girls giggled to each other, saying: ‘We’re gonna get gold!’There were also reports that white people were being targeted for robbery by gangs roaming the streets.
    Police advised businesses across the capital to close as the violence also spread to Peckham, Deptford and Lewisham in South London.More than 300 officers from 12 outside forces were brought in to help the Met deal with riots. But areas of the capital were left entirely unprotected. In affluent Clapham, a 200-strong mob tore along the high street while one witness said: ‘There isn’t a single officer here.’Metropolitan Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh said Scotland Yard was on high alert and said the looting was ‘disgusting behaviour, ripping apart people’s livelihoods and businesses’.He said a third more officers were on the ground than Sunday night, which was three times more than Saturday when the riots started.

    The Daily Mail

  • UK Prime Minister: We will do “everything necessary” to restore order

    UK Prime Minister: We will do “everything necessary” to restore order

    london riotsPrime Minister David Cameron has said the Government will do “everything necessary” to restore order following the third night of violence and looting across London and other cities.

    The Prime Minister has condemned the “sickening” scenes that have been witnessed and called the violence “criminality – pure and simple” which needs to be confronted and defeated.

    Mr Cameron praised the great bravery shown by police and extended huge sympathy to those affected.

    Following a meeting of COBR(A), the emergency planning committee, Mr Cameron announced that all police leave has been cancelled and tonight there will be 16,000 police on the streets with reinforcements from across the country.

    There have been 450 arrests over the last three days and the PM said he was determined that justice will be done and those involved will “feel the full force of the law”.

    “We will make sure that court procedures and processes are speeded up and people should expect to see more, many more arrests in the days to come.  I am determined, the government is determined that justice will be done and these people will see the consequences of their actions.

    “And I have this very clear message to those people who are responsible for this wrongdoing and criminality: you will feel the full force of the law and if you are old enough to commit these crimes you are old enough to face the punishment.  And to these people I would say this: you are not only wrecking the lives of others, you’re not only wrecking your own communities; you are potentially wrecking your own life too.”

    Mr Cameron also announced that Parliament will be recalled on Thursday for one day to discuss the developments.

    Prime Minister’s Office



  • British Islamic Leader: “We Need to Behead Democracy From its Roots”

    British Islamic Leader: “We Need to Behead Democracy From its Roots”

    Posted on January 8, 2011 by Jane Jamison| 1 Comment

    Forget about so-called “moderate” Muslims, there are none.  If Muslims are attending mosques and reading the Koran, THIS is what they are hearing and this is what they believe, whether or not they have acted upon it yet.   Count on it or be a PC fool.   Hear it, see it.   This is from just a few weeks ago, at a conference in the U.K.

    Hat tip: BareNakedIslam and MEMRI TV:

    British Salafi ‘Abu Mounisa’: “We Should Attack David Cameron and the Western System, and Replace Them with Islam….”

    “We Need to Behead Capitalism From Its Roots, Take it, Kill it….”

    The following are excerpts from a lecture delivered by British Salafi Abu Mounisa, in the Islamic Awakening Conference, held on December 15, 2010 and posted on the Internet. The conference, first planned to take place on November 27, 2010, but later cancelled by U.K. authorities, included 7 Muslim preachers who all studied for a lengthy time with radical Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad. Abu Mounisa’s lecture during the Islamic Awakening Conference was titled “Dawah and CGFE” (Call for Islam and Commanding Good and Forbidding Evil).

    Our Da’wa [Call for Islam] Should be the Da’wa that Attacks Their System, and We Replace It with Islam”

    Abu Mounisa: “When we talk about da’wa [call for Islam], don’t ever think, my brothers and sisters, that our da’wa is only to address a few people on the streets, and call them to Islam. Our da’wa should be the da’wa that attacks their system, and we replace it with Islam. That’s what we need to do, my dear brothers, we need to call the whole of society to Islam. We’re not just calling one sister or one brother to follow the religion of Allah. We want the whole society to bow down to Allah. We don’t want only one sister to wear the khimar [veil] and jilbab [cloak]. We want the whole society to wear the khimar and jilbab. We don’t want only our brothers and sisters to make sujud [bow down] to Allah. We want the whole society to make sujud to Allah. This is the da’wa of the Prophet Muhammad. This is our da’wa, my dear brothers and sisters. […]

    “If you carry your da’wa stall, and you stand there, just inviting people to Islam, like [cleric] Zakir Naik [does], do you think that is going to change society? Without attacking the law and order? No, my dear brothers, there is no way it is going to change society. It’s impossible that society will change. You need to provoke society for society to be changed.

    “Also, my dear brothers, what we need to understand is that when the Prophet Muhammad was inside Mecca, there were 360 idols in Mecca at that time. Today, people don’t worship physical idols. Today, people worship the ideas of democracy, freedom, and capitalism. This is what the people are worshipping today. The woman says: I am free to have an abortion. The man says: I am free to go for sexual promiscuity. Do you see what I mean? This is the reality of today.”

    “I have Come to Destroy Your Gods”

    “Who allows that freedom? Who allows that democracy? Who allows these false gods to exist? The government, the law and order, they are the ones that allow it. When the [people] said to the Prophet Muhammad: Why don’t you add your god amongst our gods? Just one more, just add it in. He said: No way! […]

    “He said: Do you think I am going to mix my God with your gods? I’m never mixing my God with your gods. It’s impossible for me to mix my gods [sic] with your gods, and I would never do so. I believe Allah is self-sufficient. He doesn’t need your gods. I have come to destroy your gods. When Allah gave the Prophet Muhammad victory inside Mecca, he went to the Kaaba and destroyed all 360 gods inside it. But do you know what? He never stopped there. Do you know what he did? He went to the areas of [the idols] Lat, Uzzat, and Manat… He went inside these areas, and he asked the people: Where is Uzzat, where is Manat? He went and destroyed them, killed them, chopped their heads off, beheaded them. That is why, my dear brothers, we need to behead democracy from its roots.

    “We need to behead capitalism from its roots, take it, kill it from its roots. That is what we need to do. We should hate it so much, my dear brothers, that every day, we should attack their system. Every day. Just like the Prophet Muhammad did. […]

    “This is how we should feel. This is how we should believe. We should have the zeal in our hearts, for the sake of Allah, to destroy all their system and replace it with Islam.” […]

    Omar Ibn Al-Khattab Hit a Woman Who was Dressed Immodestly “but Today We Can’t Go Around Slapping Every Woman in the Street”

    “Who allows alcohol in the first place? The law and order. So we need to address the law and order. We need to attack the law and order. A man during the time of the Prophet Muhammad… Sorry, I apologize. One time, Omar Ibn Al-Khattab saw some woman, and she was dressed inappropriately. What Muhammad did… No, I’m sorry what Omar Ibn Al-Khattab did… He went up to her, and he hit her. He hit her. He said to her: ‘How dare you walk in the streets of Al-Madina, which belong to the Prophet Muhammad, dressed the way you are dressed?’ She turned around and said to him: ‘Who the hell are you to tell me to dress like this?!’ Do you know what he said? ‘I am the Emir of the Believers.’ But today, we can’t go around slapping every woman in the street. We cannot do that. It is not allowed for us to do that.

    “So what we need to do is to address the munkar [evil]. We need to turn around and attack society. By removing the roots of the problem, you remove the issue. But if you just deal with the branches, grab a couple of branches here, a couple of branches there, it’s not going to solve the problem. It would never solve the problem. We need to attack the root of the problem, which is the man-made law, the man-made system, which we live under today. Do you understand, brothers? That is what we need to do.

    We cannot just sit down until our brothers say: Brother, what you are doing is forbidden. Sister, your scarf is completely forbidden, a big hump on the head. You can’t do it like this. What you need to is tell the sister that her hump is wrong. You need to tell the brother he is wrong. Plus you need to command good and forbid evil, and make the society bow down to Allah.

    That is what we need to do, my dear brothers. We need to attack the leaders. We need to turn around and attack, what’s it? Daoud Kamroon… Cameron. He calls him Daoud Kamroon. We need to attack him. We need to say: Your laws are oppressive. We need to deal with those laws, and replace them with Islam. ‘Whoever rejects the Taghout and believes in Allah…’ So we would destroy his system and replace it with Islam. That is what we need to do.” […]

    http://www.uncoverage.net/2011/01/british-islamic-leader-we-need-to-behead-democracy-from-its-roots/

  • UK capital London sees second night of clashes

    UK capital London sees second night of clashes

    EnfieldClashes broke out between police and rioters in Enfield, north London, tonight, in a second night of violence in the capital.

    Dozens of riot police officers, some with dogs and batons, charged at a group of more than 100 youths after the windows of dozens of shops were smashed.

    Police were called to the town centre at around 6:30pm after youths attacked police cars, while high street shops came under attack from bricks and slabs of concrete, according to witness reports.

    Running battles between the youths and police continued through the evening, as bricks were hurled at police vans attempting to lockdown the area.

    Pictures posted on the social networking site Twitter showed an HMV store which appeared to have been looted and a number of police vans parked outside a Tesco, which had earlier been the scene of some scuffles.

    The Metropolitan police said it had extra resources out across London following the troubles in Tottenham on Saturday night, which saw buildings, police cars and a bus burnt out in the high road, resulting in 55 arrests.

    Riots broke out after protests over the death of Mark Duggan, who was shot by police, turned violent.

    Several arrests have been made after shops were looted, according to Scotland Yard.

    Many shopkeepers in Enfield closed early, fearing a repeat of yesterday’s violence.

    Ben MacDonald, who lives in Tottenham, said as he dropped a friend in Enfield earlier today he saw that the HMV and T Mobile shops had been vandalised by a group of teenagers.

    He said: “A police car turned up trying to deter them, but instead they turned on the police car, jumped on the roof and absolutely trashed it.”

    Local resident and freelance journalist, Chris January, told theTelegraph: “It’s a tinderbox at the moment, there’s 300 youths aged between 12-18 waiting by the station masked up. We’re just waiting for it to kick off. There’s riot police everyone and they’ve closed the station.”

    Nick de Bois, Conservative MP for Enfield North, said the disorder in Enfield was encouraged via social media websites:

    “There seems to have been a very well organised campaign over social media to try to engineer trouble here in Enfield. It has almost become a self-fulfilling prophecy,” he told LBC radio.

    “There is no element of injustice that they are here for. They are here quite simply to cause trouble, to hurt local businesses and shops. This is nothing more than illegal criminal behaviour and I just hope that if the police conclude their investigation, that they do make arrests and those that are guilty receive a serious punishment from the courts.”

    The Telegraph

     

  • After Norway, Turks in Germany on thin ice

    After Norway, Turks in Germany on thin ice

    Barçın Yinanç – barcin.yinanc@hurriyet.com.tr
    ISTANBUL- Hürriyet Daily News
    Turks in Germany have been the target of attacks in the past but if it happens again, they might not remain idle, says Professor Faruk Şen. He argues that a deepening economic crisis could increase hostility to Turks by the fall. There is also a risk that Turkish youth would react to such attack, Şen says: ‘Just one spark could be all it might takes’
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    After having lived in Germany for nearly 40 years, Faruk Şen has resettled in Istanbul. Şen told the Daily News at the headquarters of the think tank he heads that he makes frequent visits to Germany. DAILY NEWS photos, Emrah GÜREL

    The deepening economic crisis in Europe could make Turks in Germany the target of a new wave of attacks, which may not go unreciprocated this time, according to an expert on Turkish-German relations.

    Professor Faruk Şen, the head of the German Foundation of Education and Scientific Research, spoke with the Hürriyet Daily News following a deadly, racially charged attack in Norway, which coincided with the 50th year since the first large wave of Turkish immigration to Germany. In the last decade or so of these five decades, Turks in Germany have increasingly become the target of racist attacks, some of which have been deadly. Just one incident could trigger broader conflict, Şen told the Daily News in an interview.

    Following the attacks in Norway you issued a statement saying that Turks in Europe could become the target of attacks as well. But won’t the Norway incident serve as a wakeup call, making the police more vigilant and society more conscious, reducing the risk of new attacks?

    In Europe there is a phenomenon that I call “new racism.” It is more dangerous than the racism of the past. Islamophobia and Turkophobia have now reached the elites.

    In the 1990s Turks were attacked by skinheads who had not even finished primary school, people without any future, with low IQ levels. But with the economic crisis in the 2000s, hostility against Turks has reached higher classes in the society. German Central Banker Thilo Sarrazin made racist remarks against Turks last year. He was thrown out of the Central Bank only three months later. But he is still a member of the German Social Democratic Party.

    When Arab kids in France rioted six years ago following statements of then-Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, I said similar things would not happen in Germany because the situation with the Turks there was different. But now the unemployment rate among Turks has reached 30 percent. One spark could be enough.

    There are signs that by September or October, the economic situation could get worse and I fear this could trigger new attacks against Turks. This fear is shared by a lot of Turkish nongovernmental organizations active in Germany. Even the interior minister of Bavaria said he expected similar events to take place in his state.

    So if there are new attacks in Germany, the youth of the Turkish community will react, rather than remain silent?

    I don’t want to exaggerate. But there is a risk. One incident can trigger the youth to react. Turkish youth criticized both Turkey and Germany for not showing enough sensitivity to the Solingen incident [where five Turkish women died in a fire started by Germans in 1993]. In the past, when Turkish youth went to nightclubs in Germany, they posed as Italians. But after the Solingen incident, they claimed their own [Turkish] identity. Also, some among the new generation make a lot of money, wear the most expensive shoes and go to the most expensive places. They are more demanding and aware of their rights. They don’t want to be excluded. Their parents were not like them. They remained silent.

    And this recently empowered Turkish community is now facing a new racism that has gone main stream?

    Racism exists even among elites. As they feel the negative effects of the economic crisis, they now fear their job can be taken by successful Turks. There is racism even among academics, who fear the competition from academics of Turkish origin. Until recently there were no professors of Turkish origin in [Germany’s] universities.

    So while Germans are complaining about Turks’ lack of integration, they also fear the well-integrated Turks. Isn’t this a contradiction?

    Yes, but there are not only winners among Turks there are also losers. Twenty-two percent of the Turks live under the poverty line. Crime rates among Turkish youth are higher than among German youth.

    How do you assess the situation now that 50 years has passed since the immigration agreement was signed between Turkey and Germany?

    It is like a glass that is half full and half empty. On the one hand we have the winners. We have 144,000 Turkish entrepreneurs in Europe. The number of academics is on the rise. But on the other hand we have the losers in the ghettos.

    In your statement following the Norway incident you made a call on the government. What is your expectation from Turkey?

    Turkey has become very sensitive as far as its foreign policy is concerned. Turkey takes sides when something happens in Libya or Syria. I believe Turkey should be a party when it comes to the problems of Turks in Germany. It should be more sensitive and ask the German government to protect the Turkish community. Turkish ambassadors in European countries should meet and discuss measures in case Turks in Europe become targets of attacks.

    But every time the Turkish prime minister goes to Germany, his messages spark crisis.

    Following the death of nine Turks in a fire in Ludwighafen in 2008, we called on German Chancellor Merkel to gather the representatives of the Turks and talk about measures. She did not listen to us. Then Turkish PM came to address the Turks in the city. If you don’t protect your citizens, because at least 1 million of the nearly 3 million Turks have German citizenship, then it is normal for the Turkish PM to come and speak out. I endorse the messages he gave in Germany.

    WHO IS FARUK SEN?

    A major figure in the field of Turkish-German relations, Professor Faruk Şen established himself in Germany in the 1970s and returned to Turkey nearly a year ago. After studying management and working at Bamberg and Essen universities, Şen established the Foundation of Turkey Research Center in Bonn in 1985 and has focused since then on Turkish communities in Europe. He is currently the director of the board of the German Foundation of Education and Scientific Research and works actively for the establishment of a Turkish-German university. Professor Şen has written several books and articles on economics, social sciences and immigration in three languages, including English.

  • REVEALED: ‎Britain’s secret policy on torture

    REVEALED: ‎Britain’s secret policy on torture

    Torture policy of MI5 and MI6 outlined in secret document – barrister’s opinion together with original article from The Guardian below:

    No trade-off on torture

    Now that the secret government policy on overseas torture is laid bare, it is even more imperative that the coalition clean house

    Eric Metcalfe

    Guantanamo military prison
    Guantánamo military prison, where 'enhanced interrogation techniques' were used. Photograph: John Moore/Getty Images

     

    Would you risk someone being waterboarded in a foreign country for a week if you thought it might save 10 British lives? What if you thought it might save only one life, but you were not really sure? What would that be worth? Waterboarding for a day? The secret government policy uncovered in Ian Cobain’s story on Thursday does not set things out in such crude terms, but it is the kind of grotesque utilitarian calculus that is invited by its bland references to “balancing the risk of mistreatment” against “operational imperatives”.

    Torture, according to the policy, was something the previous government would never knowingly condone or be complicit in. But when it came to situations in which the government did not know for certain, or did not especially want to, all bets were, apparently, off.

    The revelation of the policy, in force until 2010, does not so much shock as confirm what many people had guessed: that the previous government had been prepared to run the risk that its co-operation with foreign intelligence agencies might – in certain, unspecified circumstances – result in people overseas being tortured.

    The policy restated, of course, the official position: MI5 and MI6 “do not participate in, solicit, encourage or condone the use of torture or inhuman or degrading treatment” and “will not carry out any action which it is known will result” in such ill-treatment. The more difficult question is what was happening before 2010 in the many cases that didn’t involve such perfect knowledge, ie the real world.

    Some things we do know. We know, for instance, that our intelligence services have over the past decade co-operated with a great many countries known to use torture: Jordan, Pakistan and Algeria, to name but a few. The evidence that these countries use torture has long been a matter of public record, amply documented by reports from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the US state department.

    But it turns out knowledge is a tricky thing. In 2005, the then head of MI5 gave a witness statement in support of the government’s case before the House of Lords, from which it was clear that MI5 did not care to ask its foreign partners if particular information it received had been obtained using torture. Apparently it feared giving offence and thereby depriving the UK of valuable intelligence. As Lord Bingham noted in his dissenting opinion, “the foreign torturer does not boast of his trade”, and MI5 was content to turn a blind eye in order to keep the information coming in.

    The cases in which British officials have been implicated in torture abroad are not just those involving evidence received by fax, however, where knowledge of interrogation techniques is easy enough to deny. In several cases, agents of MI5 and MI6 went to detention centres in places such as Pakistan, stood face to face with the victim of torture, asking questions with the torturers presumably nearby. It beggars belief to suppose that trained intelligence officials were unaware of the circumstances in which suspects were detained.

    No doubt there are many qualities that go into making a good MI5 agent but naivety is not one of them. In any event, the previous government’s policy reveals that ministers were prepared to run the risk that torture might be used if the gains to the UK were acceptable enough: in other words, a ghoulish, foolish trade-off between torture and intelligence.

    Will the coalition clean house as it promised? Labour’s policy accepted that British officials overseas were bound by our criminal law but not, apparently, our human rights standards. Sadly, the coalition government seems as unwilling as Labour in this regard, something borne out by itsrefusal to comply with article 3 of the European convention on human rights when setting up the Detainee Inquiry. Worst of all, the coalition has given itself the final say on what can and cannot be made public by the inquiry. The irony here is that, but for Thursday’s leak, Labour’s ruinous policy might never have seen the light of day.

    Eric Metcalfe is a barrister and the director of human rights policy at Justice

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/aug/05/no-trade-off-on-torture, 5 August 2011

    Original article by Ian Cobain:

    UK’s secret policy on torture revealed

    Exclusive: Document shows intelligence officers instructed to weigh importance of information sought against pain inflicted

    A number of men questioned by M5 and MI6 officers
    A number of men said they were questioned by MI5 and MI6 officers after being tortured at Guantánamo Bay. Photograph: Mark Wilson/Getty Images

    A top-secret document revealing how MI6 and MI5 officers were allowed to extract information from prisoners being illegally tortured overseas has been seen by the Guardian.

    The interrogation policy – details of which are believed to be too sensitive to be publicly released at the government inquiry into the UK’s role in torture and rendition – instructed senior intelligence officers toweigh the importance of the information being sought against the amount of pain they expected a prisoner to suffer. It was operated by the British government for almost a decade.

    A copy of the secret policy showed senior intelligence officers and ministers feared the British public could be at greater risk of a terrorist attack if Islamists became aware of its existence.

    One section states: “If the possibility exists that information will be or has been obtained through the mistreatment of detainees, the negative consequences may include any potential adverse effects on national security if the fact of the agency seeking or accepting information in those circumstances were to be publicly revealed.

    “For instance, it is possible that in some circumstances such a revelation could result in further radicalisation, leading to an increase in the threat from terrorism.”

    The policy adds that such a disclosure “could result in damage to the reputation of the agencies”, and that this could undermine their effectiveness.

    The fact that the interrogation policy document and other similar papers may not be made public during the inquiry into British complicity in torture and rendition has led to human rights groups and lawyers refusing to give evidence or attend any meetings with the inquiry team because it does not have “credibility or transparency”.

    The decision by 10 groups – including Liberty, Reprieve and Amnesty International – follows the publication of the inquiry’s protocols, which show the final decision on whether material uncovered by the inquiry, led by Sir Peter Gibson, can be made public will rest with the cabinet secretary.

    The inquiry will begin after a police investigation into torture allegations has been completed.

    Some have criticised the appointment of Gibson, a retired judge, to head the inquiry because he previously served as the intelligence services commissioner, overseeing government ministers’ use of a controversial power that permits them to “disapply” UK criminal and civil law in order to offer a degree of protection to British intelligence officers committing crimes overseas. The government denies there is a conflict of interest.

    The protocols also stated that former detainees and their lawyers will not be able to question intelligence officials and that all evidence from current or former members of the security and intelligence agencies, below the level of head, will be heard in private.

    The document seen by the Guardian shows how the secret interrogation policy operated until it was rewritten on the orders of the coalition government last July.

    It also:

    • Acknowledged that MI5 and MI6 officers could be in breach of both UK and international law by asking for information from prisoners held by overseas agencies known to use torture.

    • Explained the need to obtain political cover for any potentially criminal act by consulting ministers beforehand.

     

    The secret interrogation policy was first passed to MI5 and MI6 officers inAfghanistan in January 2002 to enable them to continue questioning prisoners whom they knew were being mistreated by members of the US military.

    It was amended slightly later that year before being rewritten and expanded in 2004 after it became apparent that a significant number of British Muslims, radicalised by the invasion of Iraq, were planning attacks against the UK.

    The policy was amended again in July 2006 during an investigation of a suspected plot to bring down airliners over the Atlantic.

    Entitled “Agency policy on liaison with overseas security and intelligence services in relation to detainees who may be subject to mistreatment”, it was given to intelligence officers handing over questions to be put to detainees.

    Separate policy documents were issued for related matters, including intelligence officers conducting face-to-face interrogations.

    The document set out the international and domestic law on torture, and explained that MI5 and MI6 do not “participate in, encourage or condone” either torture or inhuman or degrading treatment.

    Intelligence officers were instructed not to carry out any action “which it is known” would result in torture. However, they could proceed when they foresaw “a real possibility their actions will result in an individual’s mistreatment” as long as they first sought assurances from the overseas agency.

    Even when such assurances were judged to be worthless, officers could be given permission to proceed despite the real possibility that they would committing a crime and that a prisoner or prisoners would be tortured.

    “When, not withstanding any caveats or prior assurances, there is still considered to be a real possibility of mistreatment and therefore there is considered to be a risk that the agencies’ actions could be judged to be unlawful, the actions may not be taken without authority at a senior level. In some cases, ministers may need to be consulted,” the document said.

    In deciding whether to give permission, senior MI5 and MI6 management “will balance the risk of mistreatment and the risk that the officer’s actions could be judged to be unlawful against the need for the proposed action”.

    At this point, “the operational imperative for the proposed action, such as if the action involves passing or obtaining life-saving intelligence” would be weighed against “the level of mistreatment anticipated and how likely those consequences are”.

    Ministers may be consulted over “particularly difficult cases”, with the process of consulting being “designed to ensure that appropriate visibility and consideration of the risk of unlawful actions takes place”. All such operations must remain completely secret or they could put UK interests and British lives at risk.

    Disclosure of the contents of the document appears to help explain the high degree of sensitivity shown by ministers and former ministers after the Guardian became aware of its existence two years ago.

    Tony Blair evaded a series of questions over the role he played in authorising changes to the instructions in 2004, while the former home secretary David Blunkett maintained it was potentially libellous even to ask him questions about the matter.

    As foreign secretary, David Miliband told MPs the secret policy could never be made public as “nothing we publish must give succour to our enemies”.

    Blair, Blunkett and the former foreign secretary Jack Straw also declined to say whether or not they were aware that the instructions had led to a number of people being tortured.

    The head of MI5, Jonathan Evans, said that, in the post 9/11 world, his officers would be derelict in their duty if they did not work with intelligence agencies in countries with poor human rights records, while his opposite number at MI6, Sir John Sawers, spoke of the “real, constant, operational dilemmas” involved in such relationships.

    Others, however, are questioning whether – in the words of Ken Macdonald, a former director of public prosecutions, “Tony Blair’s government was guilty of developing something close to a criminal policy”.

    The Intelligence and Security Committee, the group of parliamentarians appointed by the prime minister to assist with the oversight of the UK’s intelligence agencies, is known to have examined the document while sitting in secret, but it is unclear what – if any – suggestions or complaints it made.

    Paul Murphy, the Labour MP and former minister who chaired the committee in 2006, declined to answer questions about the matter.

    A number of men, mostly British Muslims, have complained that they were questioned by MI5 and MI6 officers after being tortured by overseas intelligence officials in PakistanBangladesh, Afghanistan andGuantánamo Bay. Some are known to have been detained at the suggestion of British intelligence officers.

    Others say they were tortured in places such as Egypt, Dubai, Morocco and Syria, while being interrogated on the basis of information that could only have been supplied by the UK.

    A number were subsequently convicted of serious terrorism offences or subjected to control orders. Others returned to the UK and, after treatment, resumed their lives.

    One is a businessman in Yorkshire, another a software designer living in Berkshire, and a third is a doctor practising on the south coast of England.

    Some have brought civil proceedings against the British government, and a number have received compensation in out-of-court settlements, but others remain too scared to take legal action.

    Scotland Yard has examined the possibility that one officer from MI5 and a second from MI6 committed criminal offences while extracting information from detainees overseas, and detectives are now conducting what is described as a “wider investigation into other potential criminal conduct”.

    A new set of instructions was drafted after last year’s election, published on the orders of David Cameron, on the grounds that the coalition was “determined to resolve the problems of the past” and wished to give “greater clarity about what is and what is not acceptable in the future”.

    Human rights groups pointed to what they said were serious loopholes that could permit MI5 and MI6 officers to remain involved in the torture of prisoners overseas.

    Last week, the high court heard a challenge to the legality of the new instructions, brought by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. Judgment is expected later in the year.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/aug/04/uk-allowed-interrogate-tortured-prisoners, 4 August 2011

    The Daily Telegraph’s title for the same item:

    “We covered up our involvement in torture. Now we must expose it”