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  • CLAIM: ISIS Agents Working in Western Airports

    CLAIM: ISIS Agents Working in Western Airports

    This exclusive report by Breitbart, Jerusalem and it’s not specifically airports. Read the entire story below.

    EXCLUSIVE by BREITBART JERUSALEM:

    TEL AVIV – The Islamic State has agents working in Western airports, metro stations and “very sensitive facilities in the world,” a leading Islamic State-allied militant claimed in an exclusive interview.

    Abu al-Ayna al-Ansari, a Salafist movement senior official in the Gaza Strip, made the claim in a pre-recorded, hour-long interview to air in full on Sunday on “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio,” the popular weekend talk radio program broadcast on New York’s AM 970 The Answer and NewsTalk 990 AM in Philadelphia.  Klein doubles as Breitbart’s senior investigative reporter and Jerusalem bureau chief.

    Ansari is a well-known Gazan Salafist jihadist allied with Islamic State ideology.  During the interview with Klein, Ansari seemed to be speaking as an actual IS member, repeatedly using the pronoun “we” when referring to IS and even seemingly making declarations on behalf of IS.

    IS has been reluctant to officially declare its presence in Gaza for fear of a Hamas clampdown, but the group is known to be active in the coastal enclave and Ansari is a suspected IS leader.  IS-aligned militants have taken responsibility for recent rocket fire from Gaza aimed at Israel.

    Ansari claimed IS infiltration of Western transportation systems.

    Ansari stated:

    The Islamic State is a state. The Islamic State has agents all around the very sensitive facilities in the world, like metro stations, like airports and other places whether in the West or in the Arab world. We have our mujahedeen implanted in those facilities as workers, as employees, even in the security field in the airports.

    And they were recruited to work with the Islamic State and we proved that we succeeded to reach a very deep infiltration in these facilities. We showed it in Sinai with the Russian jet. We show it now. And everybody should understand. This is a state. This state will not disappear. It will only become bigger because this is the message. This is the prophecy of Muhammad and this is the promise of Allah.

    No evidence has emerged indicating any IS penetration of the work force at Brussels airport or the metro system, the two targets hit in terror strikes on Tuesday, killing at least 34 people and wounding some 270. IS claimed responsibility for the attacks.

  • We’re learning the wrong lessons from Brussels — and it’s going to cost us

    We’re learning the wrong lessons from Brussels — and it’s going to cost us

    More from Michael Harris available here.

    In the wake of Brussels — at least for now — we’re back in the bad old days of the War of Civilizations narrative.

    In the face of terror most foul, fury and vengeance are once more in the air. It’s not quite Christianity versus Islam, but it’s close.

    Some anecdotal evidence. Two comments on a story in The Independent, worlds apart, suggest that two great swaths of humanity are once again on an unnecessary and tragic collision course.

    Bobby said: “All the whole Mideast and ALL their ilk are Hated by me and mine.”

    Ceycey replied: “Is your humanity only for Europe?”

    Both commenters were responding to a story in the British newspaper written by Yasmin Ahmed in the wake of the terrorist bombings in Belgium. Ahmed pointed out that just before ISIS operatives set off bombs in Brussels, the Kurdistan Freedom Hawks detonated a car bomb in Turkey near a transportation hub, killing 37 and injuring 70 more. A closely-timed second attack killed four more people. In fact, Turkey has been beset by a spate of bombings by Kurdish separatists and ISIS, who in 2015 alone killed 141 and injured 910 others.

    In both Brussels and Ankara, innocent people were killed indiscriminately by fanatics who believe political causes sanctify murder. But what struck Ahmed was the profound difference in the Western reaction to these atrocities. In social media there were safety check-ins on Facebook, hashtags on Twitter, and shared cartoons in response to the bombings at Zaventen Airport and Maelbeek metro station. In fact, “Brussels” garnered 17.5 million more Google news results than “Ankara”.

    While the world mourned Brussels, Ankara was treated as a mere regional event. Case in point: After this week’s Brussels bombings, European countries raised the Belgian flag above their national monuments — a fitting tribute. The Eiffel Tower was illuminated in the colours of the Belgian flag, as was One World Trade Center in New York (though in truth, the colours looked more like red, white and blue). So Yasmin Ahmed posed an awkward question: Why didn’t Downing Street raise the red and white Turkish flag after the atrocities in Ankara?

    Ahmed’s unease was mirrored by a young woman who knows a thing or two about being victimized by terrorism. Malala Yousafzai blazed to international fame after standing up for education for girls in Afghanistan and getting shot by the Taliban for her defiance.

    In the flash of two bombs, the world is suddenly standing back in the rubble of 9/11 with President Bush repeating his With Us or With the Terrorists ultimatum. All the old, familiar and — I might add — failed solutions are once more being put forward by a real estate mogul who is being embraced as though he were King Solomon.

    She too has spoken out about the dangers of dividing the victims of terrorism between East and West, providing global media funerals for some, mute indifference to others.

    “Do you not see that this indifference to the non-Western lives is EXACTLY what is creating and feeding terror organizations like ISIS? … If your intention is to stop terrorism, do not try to blame the whole population of Muslims for it, because that cannot stop terrorism,” she said.

    And that raises an interesting question. Is the West mute on the subject of innocent lives lost to terrorists in Turkey because the motivations behind those attacks were different from the reasons behind the killing in Europe — or because Turkey is 98 per cent Muslim? Has the West’s accusatory finger moved from ultra-extremist groups like ISIS and al Qaida to designate the members of an entire religion — again?

    In this season of presidential politics in the United States, the answer is, sadly, ‘Yes’.

    CNN, which fielded carpet-coverage of the Brussels bombings in a way that repeated rather than advanced the story for three gruesome days, has already come up with a poll showing that Republican frontrunner Donald Trump is now the first choice of Americans on anti-terrorism matters.

    That is astonishing for a few reasons. First of all, Trump has zero experience in fighting terrorism in any official capacity. He has never held public office, and his chief advisor on foreign policy is The Donald. Trump has been widely denounced by military, national security and senior police leaders for his unconstitutional, illegal and flatly dangerous approach to some of America’s deepest problems.

    The list is well known. So far Trump has proposed banning all Muslims from entering the United States, deporting 12 million illegal aliens, building a wall on the Mexican border, bringing back torture and instituting racial profiling in Muslim communities in the U.S. Now he has added that he wouldn’t rule out using nuclear weapons against ISIS. That’s right — nuclear weapons.

    In the flash of two bombs, the world is suddenly standing back in the rubble of 9/11 with President Bush repeating his With Us or With the Terrorists ultimatum. All the old, familiar and — I might add — failed solutions are once more being put forward by a real estate mogul who is being embraced as though he were King Solomon.

    Though there are many particulars to the new fundamentalism for defeating terror, it comes down to the familiar mantra of guns, gates and guards. If the police just had enough unconstitutional powers, if free citizens just gave up enough civil liberties, if the West could just exert enough hard power against Islamic terrorists, if only there could be more forced regime change, if only Muslims would begin denouncing the evil-doers in their communities, the world would never have to see the cities of Europe and the United States burning again.

    Those answers have been tried for fifteen blood-soaked years and all the West has to show for it is millions of deaths, trillions in squandered treasure — and ISIS.

    The time has come to recognize solidarity with all the victims of terror. As James Taylor, a U.K. citizen living in Ankara, posted on Facebook, “You were Charlie, you were Paris, will you be Ankara?”

    Apparently not.

    Michael Harris is a writer, journalist, and documentary filmmaker. He was awarded a Doctor of Laws for his “unceasing pursuit of justice for the less fortunate among us.” His nine books include Justice Denied, Unholy Orders, Rare ambition, Lament for an Ocean, and Con Game. His work has sparked four commissions of inquiry, and three of his books have been made into movies. His new book on the Harper majority government, Party of One, is a number one best-seller and has been shortlisted for the Governor-General’s Literary Award for English-language non-fiction.

    Readers can reach the author at michaelharris@ipolitics.ca. Click here to view other columns by Michael Harris.

    The views, opinions and positions expressed by all iPolitics columnists and contributors are the author’s alone. They do not inherently or expressly reflect the views, opinions and/or positions of iPolitics.

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      carrie_liberte • an hour ago

      “First of all, Trump has zero experience in fighting terrorism in any official capacity. He has never held public office, and his chief advisor on foreign policy is The Donald.”

      First of all, Trudeau has zero experience in fighting terrorism in any official capacity. He was a snowboard instructor before he held public office, and his chief advisor on foreign policy is The Butts.

      hahahaha

       
       
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        Pat Wilmot carrie_liberte • 10 minutes ago

        You really should seek professional help for your obsession. Harris doesn’t even mention PRIME MINISTER Trudeau in this column, but still you have to blather on irrelevantly about him. In this War of Civilizations, Canada is a bit player – and one of the more calm and sensible ones, now that your hijab-hating heroes have been kicked out.

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          MrCoreyandTrevor Pat Wilmot • 8 minutes ago

          The hijab was fine, it was the niqab that was objected to.

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      Dutchcourage • 2 hours ago

      Isis has murdered far more Muslim than non Muslims. The fact that Saudi Arabia and Iran cannot get organized to eradicate this nihilist sect tells you that there is a proxy war going on. The victims of terrorism, both Muslim and non Muslim are just collateral damage.

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      Lymetime • 2 hours ago

      The double standard is obviously present and speaks volumes about how the West views the non-West. Scratch that, it’s probably more “white money culture” vs. “Colour any-other-culture”. This divide only ensures that this continues to happen.

       
       
  • France Takes a Back Seat to Germany in E.U. Migrant Crisis

    France Takes a Back Seat to Germany in E.U. Migrant Crisis

    By CELESTINE BOHLEN

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    President François Hollande of France greeting Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany at the Élysée Palace in Paris on March 4. Christophe Ena/Associated Press

    PARIS — The French-German couple has always been assumed to be the engine of the European Union, the crucial team at the heart of a sprawling, unruly family of 28 nations.

    But in recent months, if not years, the tandem has become visibly lopsided. As Germany takes the lead on crisis after crisis — from the euro to migration — the question keeps popping up: Where is France?

    “Why has France not stepped up to make the voice of Germany’s main partner heard, even as the migration crisis turns into a nightmare and threatens Europe’s very existence?” asked the French newspaper Le Monde on March 6, just as Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany began a final push to make the migration deal with Turkey, which was reached Friday.

    The reasons for France’s muted role on the migration issue are connected to domestic politics, said Pascale Joannin, general manager at the Robert Schuman Foundation, a think tank based in Paris that focuses on the European Union.

    With one of Europe’s most stubbornly high unemployment rates and a far-right anti-immigrant party gaining popularity, France is in no mood to roll out the welcome mat for the migrants trying to make a home in Europe, she said.

    Nor is France a top destination for most of the refugees and economic migrants now heading to Europe — a fact supported by the thousands who are huddling in northern France but trying against all odds to cross the English Channel to Britain.

    “France and Germany do not have a common position on migration, which is one reason why Europe has been skating around the issue since last September,” Ms. Joannin said.

    The gap was exposed in February, when Prime Minister Manuel Valls of France, speaking in Munich, knocked back taunts from the French news media that the country needed a Merkel of its own and challenged the chancellor’s open-arm policy toward the migrants, to the irritation of his German hosts.

    Ms. Joannin traces the reluctance of the Socialist government to play a leading role in Brussels to a 2005 referendum on greater European integration that was defeated in France with the help of leading party members — including Laurent Fabius, who was foreign minister until last month.

    “Fabius never did anything on Europe, nothing,” Ms. Joannin said. Furthermore, she added, President François Hollande, who as the Socialist leader presided over the party’s division in 2005, has proved at best to be ambivalent.

    “This president does not have a passion for European affairs,” she said, noting the stark contrast with previous French presidents, who staked out a pivotal role in Europe with a close embrace of their German counterparts.

    The French failure to take a leadership role has come at a cost for Germany, which lacks a strong ally within the European Union, but also, some argue, for the perception of the bloc within France.

    “The truth is that France doesn’t organize itself, and it has never organized itself, so that its voice is heard” in Brussels, Sylvie Goulard, a French deputy to the European Parliament, said in an interview with the newspaper 20 Minutes.

    That Germany should emerge as the dominant player in Europe owes much to its economic strength; that was clearly the case during the euro crisis.

    France has a weaker hand, particularly because its budget deficit, one of the highest in Europe, continues to exceed European standards.

    Mr. Hollande’s embattled political situation — weakened by a mishandling of crucial legislative initiatives that have divided his own party and brought protesters onto the streets — has only added to the view that France is losing ground as a voice to be reckoned with in Europe.

    For that to change, Ms. Joannin said, “France has to say what it wants.”

  • Finalists Picked for New Prize Created in Memory of Armenian Genocide

    Finalists Picked for New Prize Created in Memory of Armenian Genocide

    By RICK GLADSTONE

    They are four relatively obscure humanitarians: an orphanage founder in Burundi who challenged a bloodthirsty mob and other dangers; the only doctor for half a million people in Sudan’s Nuba Mountains; a Pakistani advocate for indentured laborers who helps extricate them from debt; and a Roman Catholic priest in the Central African Republic who saved more than 1,000 Muslims, mostly women and children, from fatal persecution.

    An international committee deliberating on who would receive a new humanitarian award, created in memory of the Armenian genocide, has selected these four as finalists for the annual prize, meant to honor those whose exceptional work to preserve human life in disasters created by humans — like war and ethnic strife — puts them in great peril. The finalists, whose selection will be announced Tuesday, will attend a ceremony in Yerevan, Armenia, on April 24, where the winner will be announced.

    “They’re not celebrities — they’re surprised that some people in the outside world even noticed them,” said Vartan Gregorian, the president of the Carnegie Corporation of New York, a philanthropic foundation. Mr. Gregorian, an American scholar of Armenian descent, leads the selection committee for the award, known as the Aurora Prize for Awakening Humanity.

    “They’re not in the self-aggrandizing business,” Mr. Gregorian said in an interview alongside two other committee members, Gareth Evans, a former foreign minister of Australia, and Leymah Gbowee, a Liberian peace activist and Nobel laureate.

    The prize, created by Mr. Gregorian and two other prominent philanthropists of Armenian descent, Noubar Afeyan and Ruben Vardanyan, has a twist that distinguishes it from other prizes: The winner receives $100,000 and designates an organization that inspired his or her work to be the beneficiary of $1 million.

    The finalists are Marguerite Barankitse, founder of Maison Shalom, which began as a center for orphans during ethnic upheavals that convulsed Burundi, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo in the 1990s; Dr. Tom Catena, a physician from Amsterdam, N.Y., who founded the Mother of Mercy Hospital in Sudan’s war-ravaged Nuba Mountains eight years ago; Syeda Ghulam Fatima, who runs the Bonded Labour Liberation Front, an organization in Lahore, Pakistan, that aids destitute workers and who was once shot because of her work; and the Rev. Bernard Kinvi, a priest from Togo who runs a Catholic mission in the Central African Republic that has saved many civilians from reprisals in that country’s chronic civil conflict, regardless of their backgrounds.

    The finalists were chosen from 200 submitted after the award was announced last April during events for the centennial of the Armenian genocide, widely considered the first genocide of the 20th century. As many as 1.5 million Armenians were killed as the Ottoman Empire collapsed.

    The award founders named it the Aurora Prize after a genocide survivor, Aurora Mardiganian, who witnessed the massacre of relatives and told her story in a book and film.

    Ms. Gbowee said she hoped the prize would inspire a generation of young people, many of whom she feared had become hardened or intimidated by humanitarian crises around the world.

    “How do we awaken humanity in them? Should we start now?” she said. “My answer is yes. And the whole idea of this prize is the perfect opportunity to begin that conversation.”

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    The Aurora Prize

    On behalf of Armenian Genocide survivors and their descendants and in gratitude to saviors.

    Read their stories

    Exceptional Humanitarians Chosen for Aurora Prize

    Aurora Prize Co-Chairs George Clooney and Elie Wiesel join the Selection Committee in congratulating finalists for the inaugural award

     

    Ordinary Heroes: Mark Moogalian

    American professor who tried to stop a mass shooting on a train

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    Selection Committee Member Joint Statement

    We, the members of the Aurora Prize Selection Committee, are proud to announce the four finalists for the inaugural Aurora Prize for Awakening Humanity.

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    100 LIVES & ICFJ Partnership

    100 LIVES partners with leading journalism nonprofit to launch reporting award

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    100 LIVES launches the “Amal Clooney Scholarship”

    An annual scholarship for young Lebanese women to pursue a degree at the United World College (UWC) Dilijan in Armenia.

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    Heroes

    She Who Guards the Dead and Saves the Living

    Maseray Kamara, the first woman to survive Ebola, restores dignity to victims of the virus

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    Claus Sorensen, Director General of ECHO

    “Humanitarian aid workers should act as humanity’s conscience”

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    Patrick Maxcy: “Helping others, you get back so much more”

    Devoted artist employs remarkable talent to serve humanitarian causes and liven up impoverished communities

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    THE SELECTION COMMITTEE

    George
    Clooney

    Co-Chair

    Co-founder, Not On Our Watch; Humanitarian, performer and film maker

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    Elie
    Wiesel

    Co-Chair

    President of the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity; Nobel Laureate

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    Vartan
    Gregorian

    Member

    Co-founder, 100 LIVES; President of the Carnegie Corporation of New York

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    Leymah
    Gbowee

    Member

    Nobel Laureate, Liberian peace activist and women’s rights advocate

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    Hina
    Jilani

    Member

    Former United Nations Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Human Rights Defenders

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    Gareth
    Evans

    Member

    President Emeritus of the International Crisis Group; Former Australian Foreign Minister

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    Mary
    Robinson

    Member

    Former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights; Former President of Ireland

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    Oscar
    Arias

    Member

    Two-time President of Costa Rica; Nobel Laureate

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    Shirin
    Ebadi

    Member

    Human Rights Lawyer and Iran’s first female judge; Nobel Laureate

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    ABOUT THE PRIZE

    A $1 million grant for inspiring acts of humanity

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    Our purpose

    On behalf of the survivors of the Armenian Genocide and in gratitude to their saviors, the Aurora Prize for Awakening Humanity will be granted annually to an individual whose actions have had an exceptional impact on preserving human life and advancing humanitarian causes.

    The Aurora Prize Laureate will be honored with a US $100,000 award.

    In addition, that individual will have the unique opportunity to continue the cycle of giving by selecting an organization that inspired their work to receive a US $1,000,000 grant.

    The Aurora Prize will be awarded annually on April 24 in Yerevan, Armenia.

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    THE INSPIRATION

    Aurora,

    the inspirational woman

    behind the prize

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    OUR PARTNERS

    100 LIVES recently announced a strategic partnership with Not On Our Watch (NOOW), the non-governmental international relief and humanitarian aid organization. The agreement will see cooperation and reciprocal support across projects, research, operations and the development of joint fundraising projects. Not On Our Watch was founded by George Clooney, Don Cheadle, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Jerry Weintraub, and David Pressman to focus global attention and resources to stop and prevent mass atrocities.

    Elie Wiesel and his wife, Marion, established The Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity soon after he was awarded the 1986 Nobel Prize for Peace.
    The Foundation’s mission, rooted in the memory of the Holocaust, is to combat indifference, intolerance and injustice through international dialogue and youth-focused programs that promote acceptance, understanding and equality.

    The Prize benefits from the administrative and communications and legal support of these partners:

  • USA: Mysterious Nazi submarine from WWII discovered in Great Lakes

    USA: Mysterious Nazi submarine from WWII discovered in Great Lakes

    February 18th, 2016 | by Barbara Johnson

    Niagara Falls| Divers from the U.S coast guard took part this morning, in a delicate wreck recovery operation to bring to the surface a Nazi submarine discovered two weeks ago  at the bottom of Lake Ontario.

    The U-boat was spotted for the first time by amateur scuba divers in late January and they had contacted the authorities. Archaeologists associated with Niagara University of  and master divers from the U.S Coast Guard were mobilized on site to determine what it was, and they soon realized that they were dealing with a German submarine that sank during World War II.

    A wreck recovery vessel  of the Great Lakes Shipwreck Historical Society was mandated to refloat the ship and bring it back to Niagara Falls, where it must be restored before becoming a museum ship. The delicate recovery operation took nearly 30 hours to complete, but the submarine was finally brought down on the bank with relative ease.

    The divers of the U.S. Coast guard braved the frigid water temperature to go attach cables to the wreck for the recovery operation.

    The submarine was identified as the UX-791, a unique experimental German submarine, based on the U-1200 model, and known to have participated in the “Battle of the St. Lawrence”. It  was reported missing in 1943 and was believed to have been sunk near the Canadian coast.

    Professor Mark Carpenter, who leads the team of archaeologists, believes that the U-boat could have traveled up the St-Lawrence River, all the way to the Great Lakes, where it intended to disturb the American economy.

    A report from the dated from February 1943 suggests, that the ship could have attacked and destroyed three cargo ships and two fishing vessels, even damaging the USS Sable (IX-81), an aircraft carrier of the U.S. navy that was used for training in the Great Lakes, before finally being sunk by anti-sub grenades launched by a Canadian frigate.

    “We have known for a long time that the Nazis had sent some of their U-boats in the St-Lawrence River, but this is the first proof that they actually reached the Great Lakes,” Professor Carpenter told reporters. “This could explain the mysterious ship disappearances that took place in the region in 1943, and the reported “Battle of Niagara Falls” which had always been dismissed as a collective hallucination caused by fear.”

    The restoration of the submarine could take more than two years, but once completed, the museum ship is expected to become one of the major tourist attractions of the region.

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    1. cafemoon says:
      February 19, 2016 at 1:25 am

      五大湖で発見された第二次世界大戦からの謎のナチス潜水艦

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      • George Hord says:
        February 19, 2016 at 10:15 pm

        大戦からの謎の

      • donny-boy says:
        March 15, 2016 at 6:16 pm

        Ah so, deska.

    2. Ric says:
      February 19, 2016 at 4:05 pm

      If it was sunk with crew aboard this is a War Grave and should be left alone!!!!!
      Who authorized its disturbance?
      As a submariner I find this very disturbing.

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      • drib says:
        February 19, 2016 at 4:23 pm

        Ric,

        you only made that statement to tell people you are a submariner. You could literally care less. The military decided to pull this vessel and the museum will work towards restoration appropriately and respectfully. Go back in your hole where you pretend to care.

      • j mcdowell says:
        February 19, 2016 at 4:34 pm

        that looks more modern. that doesn’t resemble any u boat I’ve seen .salvage a u boat that could potentially contain un exploded torpedoes etc. something isn’t adding up here.

      • Mike says:
        February 19, 2016 at 5:38 pm

        j mcdowell, that’s because that’s a November class Soviet sub. Specifically K-159. It’s kind of sad a submariner didn’t recognize it.

      • Mike says:
        February 19, 2016 at 6:07 pm

        drib:

        Your comment is uncalled for. Why the personal attack? While your post is silent as to a submarine background, one can easily infer that you do not have one thus you are not qualified (pun not intended) to justify whether of not he cares. If you did, you would know about the tolling of the bells and the respect of submariners for those on eternal patrol.

        Ric’s point is correct. Only under unique circumstances is a warship raised. For example there is a well know submarine wreck off of Newport RI that would be easily raised but it is designated as a war grave. Given the short time between discovery and raising, I doubt that they ascertained whether remains are on board. I also note the the article is silent as to Navy involvement. It appears to be a Coast Guard operation. In that this is not a hazard to navigation it should have been left alone until the Navy cleared it to be raised. As j mcdowell says, there may well be armed torpedoes aboard.

      • Jeff says:
        February 19, 2016 at 6:20 pm

        If there are Nazis on board dead for all those years retrive there remains to the shore make a pile with them and set them on fire they started a major world war then killed 6 million people

      • Alana Smith says:
        February 19, 2016 at 9:00 pm

        It states nowhere that the men of this ship escaped or were captured, this is a war grave albeit the enemy but never-the-less A WAR GRAVE this is desecration we wouldn’t want or allow on a submarine belonging to our people

      • Bill says:
        February 19, 2016 at 9:59 pm

        drib…. the name fits…. better if it was dumbassdrip tho.

      • George Hord says:
        February 19, 2016 at 10:01 pm

        Yeah, those Submariners did walk a little light in the loafers, maybe those guys were doing the big nasty when it hit that depth charge, just saying

      • Mike says:
        February 19, 2016 at 10:02 pm

        Like the CSS Hunley, which you submariners were all about raising and “preserving”?

      • Dallas says:
        February 20, 2016 at 12:23 am

        Did ANYONE read the article? It has been identified and the type was given. It is NOT a Soviet sub.

      • Michael Kusuplos says:
        February 20, 2016 at 1:42 am

        Grave Robbers! What about the lost crew of this vessel. It is a graveyard for sailors. Since when is it accept to rob graves?

      • Coonradt says:
        February 20, 2016 at 6:59 am

        Unless Germany wants their sailors remains back. Germany may want to clear up some MIA files since they literally had thousands of MIA during the war. The ship wasn’t brought down in international waters either.

      • Mike says:
        February 20, 2016 at 4:21 pm

        I was wondering that same thing!

      • Vincent DeGennaro says:
        February 21, 2016 at 2:11 am

        drib, you are a Loser and need to crawl back into your Mothers cunt, pic was right in what he said. You probably never served and you deserved a good fuck in the ass.

      • dingus says:
        February 21, 2016 at 3:57 pm

        You heard the man… it’s to be a major tourist attraction for the region… the dead be damned.. I agree with you – make it a dive site, but that’s all ..

      • Kepha says:
        February 21, 2016 at 4:10 pm

        I’m sure any bodies will be identified, family contacted, and proper reburial seen to.

      • GhostOfJefferson says:
        February 22, 2016 at 1:15 am

        Its all about the monetarily game, show me the money.

      • Robert says:
        February 23, 2016 at 12:12 am

        The article says how the sub was sunk but does not say anything one way or the other about the fate of the crew.
        Show some respect for those who participated in and authorized the raising of the sub that they know what it and is not a War grave. They are not idiots as you are implying. Very likely they know whether their was any crew remains, something you do not, and if so, obtained the proper permissions beforehand.
        What is disturbing is knee-jerk comments when you don’t know any of the facts.

      • Hans Gans says:
        February 23, 2016 at 7:05 pm

        I think this sub should be returned to Germany after America loses WW3.

      • Stan Lupkowski says:
        February 25, 2016 at 5:23 am

        Waah,waah! Get this guy a box of kleenex already!!!

      • Devon says:
        February 26, 2016 at 1:03 pm

        I LOVE HOLES

      • Mike says:
        February 27, 2016 at 1:42 am

        Who knows for sure … maybe they all deserted then sunk it themselves

      • John Wolf says:
        February 27, 2016 at 4:48 pm

        I agree Ric, I am also a submariner and this should have been left as a war grave just as the one off of Block Island, Rhode Island.

      • x says:
        March 1, 2016 at 1:09 am

        if its a war grave, they are in hell by now and can’t reincarnate, its not sacred grounds where good people died, its military killers who died, nothing sacred about that.

      • Luke Koppendberg says:
        March 3, 2016 at 12:24 am

        well they are nazi’s and i think its frickin awesome good job people that found it and your in the military cool i salute you

      • Major Lackland says:
        March 6, 2016 at 2:20 am

        Ric: You sound disturbed.

      • Greg MaTigue says:
        March 6, 2016 at 2:34 am

        I agree sir. Much as I would love to see more people experience what a German sub looks like, if there are souls aboard her she should remain intact and in place. I’ve dove the U-352 and a few others, but I would never penetrate a sub with known persons aboard, as many others have done. Let the German sailors rest in peace!

      • Sarg says:
        March 6, 2016 at 9:04 am

        If I understand what I have read, no sign of bodies were mentioned, and in the cold temperature of the lakes, the preservation of remains would have been very good, and if sunk by the canadian coast, the chance of it making it up the river would have been very slim, if at all.
        But if hit! and obtaining minor damage, it could have made it up river to the great lakes and there be scuddeled? Remember it was an experimental U bout, special parts that may not have been available for repairs, but safe to disembark. Just a theory. Mainly because it looks pretty good for a destroyed U-bout
        I agree with you if it was a floating tumb, however I would wait for more info before being upset over it.

      • Nicole says:
        March 6, 2016 at 9:57 pm

        Not to be rude, but this is a “grave ship” site of nazis who were only there to destroy us. Why should we worry about disturbing it? I’m sure nazis would have the same respect.

      • CG Joe says:
        March 8, 2016 at 2:12 am

        I agree. But they will also be remembered by others now and for time to come. It was war, regardless of who side they are or were on they are humans. They will be honored by many..

      • de7d254a15d48cf1ef9418346779bb30?s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar George says:
        March 9, 2016 at 12:35 am

        I totally agree. As a retired military veteran, I appreciate your comment!

      • Ben says:
        March 11, 2016 at 2:51 am

        No way. their skeletons will be on display.

      • 34ff7c69fa2e4f9d477e086fad3e15c2?s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar Ange T Kenos, ex Australian navy says:
        March 12, 2016 at 8:48 pm

        I agree Ric. And folks, a sub is a boat, NOT a ship

      • Hadrian Sculptor says:
        March 13, 2016 at 8:45 pm

        fully agree with you, Ric, and besides think, that to preserve this ship as a war memorial serves nobody and nothing

      • Al Gore says:
        March 14, 2016 at 9:39 pm

        The only right grave for a Nazi is the one he finds in HELL.

    3. Tom says:
      February 19, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      There have been stories of Crews that have defected so it may not be a WAR GRAVE. The Crew may have scuttled it and went lived among the populous.

      Reply
      • Kimberly B Stone says:
        February 19, 2016 at 11:20 pm

        That’s an intriguing possibility. Would make a good movie.

      • Marilyn says:
        February 20, 2016 at 12:23 pm

        I think I read that NOVEL about the German sub being sunk in Lake Ontario and the surviving crew living in Canada & northern US states.

      • John says:
        February 21, 2016 at 8:45 am

        This is exactly what I think. More than likely an escape sub from Germany. Could be that someone in Canada knows all about it, or they made their way down to South America with a few bars of gold.

    4. Davis Love says:
      February 19, 2016 at 4:51 pm

      Nazi’s? Leave it down there to rot.

      Reply
      • Kimberly B Stone says:
        February 19, 2016 at 11:22 pm

        Most rank and file members of the military in WWII Germany were not members of the Nazi party. They were guys drafted and doing a job.

      • Dan says:
        February 20, 2016 at 2:47 pm

        Cruel bastards — yes, Nazis — not so much excepting the SS.

      • robert says:
        February 20, 2016 at 4:15 pm

        Germans and the s.s very different. My grandfather was first into italy and spent 10 months in stalag 7a and he never said he hated the German soldiers who he hated more was the Italians for raping a lot of women who he later shot he commented after walking up onto a village and these italians had french women hung and body parts missing. Even one mission the germans went into new york city to find key landmarks of interest. Glade they found this. I still have a medal my grandfather gave me that hitler gave to women who bore first sons he got it in a village that was destroyed along with nazi currency.

      • Johann says:
        February 20, 2016 at 7:27 pm

        They where not any different than todays US conservatives… same idiology

      • IndianaFerg says:
        February 20, 2016 at 10:38 pm

        US Conservatives are most definitely not akin to Nazism. Nazism is a branch on the Marxist tree, it a is perversion of Marxism more closely related with communism.

      • Manson says:
        February 21, 2016 at 6:47 pm

        It is understandable that most people still think Germany started the War and it is hard to convince them that the Germans were put on an extermination list in the late 1800s. That was because they were a threat to financial interests.

      • CG Joe says:
        March 8, 2016 at 2:14 am

        I think the movie is call RED OCTOBER..

      • Dan Andrews says:
        March 19, 2016 at 4:24 pm

        They may still be alive! Get them out.

    5. c5db9a63762fd2a8d339c85c9f740aa0?s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar Dennis Barrett says:
      February 19, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      How did this get past the falls? without being noticed?

      Reply
      • Robert Irwin says:
        February 19, 2016 at 5:11 pm

        The falls are above lake Ontario.

      • Vinny says:
        February 19, 2016 at 5:13 pm

        It sounds like it was found in Lake Ontario. The falls are in between Lake Erie and Lake Ontario

      • Anthony Ferradino says:
        February 19, 2016 at 5:15 pm

        Niagara Falls is at the WEST end of Lake Ontario, not at he end of the St. Lawrence Seaway. And they say American’s don’t know geography!

      • Michael Kusuplos says:
        February 20, 2016 at 1:45 am

        only way to do that is via the locks.

      • curious george says:
        February 23, 2016 at 10:54 am

        How did it get through the lock system on the st Lawrence seaway?

      • Jim Hunter says:
        March 2, 2016 at 1:01 am

        I’d like to know how it pass the Wellington Canal. And any of you feel sorry for the Nazis on the sunken sub read the book MIRACLES WATER about how the Nazis sunk a British passenger ship fill with children being transported to Canada to escape the bombing of England by the Nazis. The biggest mistake we made in WW2 was not letting the Nazis and Soviets chew each other up.

      • Jim Hunter says:
        March 2, 2016 at 1:04 am

        It had to go up the Wellington Canal which is in Canada two of three miles north of Niagara Falls.

  • Ankara bombing: Facebook post asking ‘You were Charlie, you were Paris. Will you be Ankara?’ is widely shared

    Ankara bombing: Facebook post asking ‘You were Charlie, you were Paris. Will you be Ankara?’ is widely shared

    Taylor: “Charlie oldunuz. Paris oldunuz. Peki Ankara olacak mısınız?”

    ‘[It] is the equivalent of a bomb going off outside Debenhams on the Drapery in Northampton, or on New street in Birmingham, or Piccadilly Circus in London’

    İngiliz Independent  Gazetesinin web sitesinde “ Ankara Bombalanıyor:  Facebook  post soruyor  “ Charlie oldun,  Paris  oldun.  Ankara  olacak mısın? Geniş biçimde  paylaşılıyor” başlığı ile bir haber yayımlandı.  Haber bana  biraz  önce ulaştı. Önerim şudur; 1) İngiltere’ deki dostlarımız bu gazeteye  hepimizin teşekkürlerini  sunmalıdır. 2) Yabancı dili İngilizce olan bütün dostlarımız;  bizlere kin kusan, ölülerimize  bile  saygı  göstermeyen  insanlık dışı kişilere  hiç olmazsa  yorumlarımızla  hadlerini bildirmeliyiz.

    Saygılar,

    O. Tan

    Ankara-EPA1.jpg

    A destroyed bus is seen in the street after an explosion in Ankara. The exploison happened near a crowded bus station and killed at least 34 people and wounded 125 EPA

    A man has shared a Facebook post calling for empathy with the victims of a suicide bomb attack in the Turkish capital of Ankara that killed at least 34 people and wounded 125.

    James Taylor, who lives in Ankara, encouraged readers to imagine the attacks happened where they live.

    “[It] is the equivalent of a bomb going off outside Debenhams on the Drapery in Northampton, or on New street in Birmingham, or Piccadilly Circus in London,” he wrote.

    “Can you imagine being there? Can you imagine the place you walk past every day, the bus stops you use, the roads you cross being obliterated.”

    “Contrary to what many people think, Turkey is not the Middle East,” Mr Taylor adds.

    “Ankara is not a war zone, it is a normal modern bustling city, just like any other European capital, and Kizilay is the absolute heart, the centre.”

    “It is very easy to look at terror attacks that happen in London, in New York, in Paris and feel pain and sadness for those victims, so why is it not the same for Ankara?

    “Is it because you just don’t realise that Ankara is no different from any of these cities?”

    In pictures: Ankara bombALANIYOR

    It is the third explosion in the Turkish capital since October 2015.

    Last month, a Kurdish militant group claimed an attack on a military convoy which killed 28 people.

    In October, 103 people were killed and 250 wounded when two suicide bombers targeted a peace rally in the deadliest attack in Turkish history.

    Mr Taylor concludes: “You were Charlie, you were Paris. Will you be Ankara?”

    =====================

    Taylor: “Charlie oldunuz. Paris oldunuz. Peki Ankara olacak mısınız?”

    Ankara’da yaşayan İngiliz James Taylor’dan dünyaya ‘Peki Ankara olacak mısınız?’ sorusu

    Ankara’da yaşayan İngiliz müzisyen James Taylor’ın, Kızılay’daki kanlı terör saldırısının ardından Facebook’ta Türk bayrağı ile paylaştığı Ankara yazısı, sosyal medyada büyük ilgi uyandırdı.

    Facebook’ta yaptığı paylaşım İngiliz Independent gazetesi ve Amerikan Newsweek dergisi tarafından da haberleştirilen Taylor, yönelttiği sorusuyla uluslararası kamuoyunu hain saldırının kurbanları için empati kurmaya davet etti.

    Taylor’ın gece yarısı paylaştığı yazı şu ana kadar 60 bine yakın Facebook kullanıcısı tarafından paylaşıldı. Yaklaşık 5 bin yorum alan ve 76 bini aşkın kişi tarafından “beğenilen” bu paylaşım, sosyal medya kullanıcılarının takdirini topladı.

    “Bu; Northampton’da, Drapery’deki Debenhams’ın dışında bir bomba patlaması gibi bir şey… Ya da Birmingham’daki New Street’te… Veya Londra’daki Piccadilly Circus’ta…” diye yazan Taylor, insanlardan şu soruların yanıtlarını düşünmelerini istedi:

    “Orada olduğunuzu hayal eder misiniz? Her gün yürüyüp geçtiğiniz yerleri, kullandığınız otobüs duraklarını, aşındırdığınız yolları?”

    Facebook’ta asıl memleketi Northampton olarak gözüken İngiliz müzisyen, “Birçok insanın düşündüğünün aksine; Türkiye, Ortadoğu değil… Ankara bir savaş bölgesi değil. Normal, modern ve hareketli bir kent. Tıpkı diğer Avrupa başkentleri gibi. Kızılay da tam onun kalbi, merkezi…” ifadesini kullandı.

    “Ankara benim evim”

    “Londra, New York, Paris’teki terör saldırılarına bakıp, kurbanların acılarını hissetmek ve üzülmek çok kolay. O zaman neden Ankara için de aynısı olmuyor? Nedeni, Ankara’nın bu kentlerden farksız olduğunu anlayamamanız mı?” ifadesini kullanan Taylor, yazısını şöyle bitirdi:

    “Ankara benim evim. 18 aydır böyle. Evim olmaya da devam edecek. Charlie oldunuz. Paris oldunuz. Peki Ankara olacak mısınız?”

    Taylor’ın İngilizce olarak kaleme aldığı yazı şöyle: 

    For those who do not know Turkey, or who distance themselves from these attacks, maybe this will open your eyes.

    The bombing this evening occurred in the one of the most crowded parts of the centre of town, next to many bus stops with people waiting to go home, arriving for a night out, and sitting in the park relaxing and drinking tea.

    Is is the equivalent of a bomb going off outside Debenhams on the Drapery in Northampton, or on New street in Birmingham, or Piccadilly Circus in London.

    Can you imagine being there? Can you imagine the place you walk past every day, the bus stops you use, the roads you cross being obliterated.

    Can you imagine the victims? The teenagers catching the bus to go home, the grandparents walking into town, the people waiting for a taxi after a long day laughing and socialising in the sun.

    Now imagine they were English, and this attack was in England. If these people were instead the people you see every day on your way to work, people just like you and I, normal, happy people. Families, policemen, students, artists, couples. Your friends maybe. These people are no different. They just happen to be Turkish.

    Contrary to what many people think, Turkey is not the Middle East. Ankara is not a war zone, it is a normal modern bustling city, just like any other European capital, and Kizilay is the absolute heart, the centre.

    It is very easy to look at terror attacks that happen in London, in New York, in Paris and feel pain and sadness for those victims, so why is it not the same for Ankara? Is it because you just don’t realize that Ankara is no different from any of these cities? Is it because you think that Turkey is a predominantly Muslim country, like Syria, like Iraq, like countries that are in a state of civil war, so therefore it must be the same and because you don’t care about those ones, then why should you care about Turkey? If you don’t believe that these attacks in Ankara affect you, or you can’t feel the same pain you felt during the Paris or London attacks, then maybe you should stop to think why, why is it that you feel like that. Turkey is an amazing country with truly wonderful people. I have never felt more welcome, more happy, more safe than I do here.

    Ankara is my home, it has been for the last 18 months, and it will continue to be my home.

    You were Charlie, you were Paris. Will you be Ankara?