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  • U.S. Resolution Could Help Armenia-Turkey Rapprochement

    U.S. Resolution Could Help Armenia-Turkey Rapprochement

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    660E4C31 C19B 4E43 A42E AFD481389369 w527 sU.S. officials, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (standing, right), have put pressure on Turkey and Armenia to ratify the agreement signed by Foreign Ministers Eduard Nalbandian and Ahmet Davutoglu in Zurich last year.

    March 05, 2010
    The U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee has narrowly passed another resolution recognizing the Ottoman-era mass killing of Armenians in Turkey as genocide. This was the second such resolution passed by the committee in less than three years and third in less than five years.

    In 2007 when the House committee approved a resolution asking the U.S. president to recognize the Armenian killings as genocide, critics argued forcefully that the passage of such measure could put the U.S. troops in Iraq in harm’s way and damage already deteriorating relations between Ankara and Washington.

    Almost every member of the Bush administration, including former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, issued statements with stern warning of the dire consequences passage of the resolution would have for U.S. interests in Iraq and elsewhere in the wider Middle East.

    The pressure from the Bush administration worked; though the committee passed the resolution, it was never sent to the full House of Representatives for a final vote.

    Yesterday’s vote was different. The pressure from the White House was not so visible and there were no public attempts to prevent the vote. The statements coming from the White House and the State Department repeated the same line, that Turkey and Armenia should move forward in implementing the protocols to normalize relations.

    The Obama administration also refrained from taking sides publicly on the issue. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, for one, had a chance to appeal to committee members not to consider the Armenian resolution when she was testifying before the House panel in late February.

    It became known just hours before the vote on March 4 that Clinton had spoken with committee Chairman Howard Berman expressing concern that further congressional action could jeopardize the fragile process of rapprochement between Yerevan and Ankara.

    Turkey’s reaction to the vote has been furious. Turkey accused the Obama administration of not doing enough to stop the vote in the House committee, and has recalled its ambassador in Washington for consultations. The Turkish foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, said today the Obama administration had not sufficiently put its weight behind efforts to block the vote.

    Why were Obama administration officials reluctant to put strong pressure on Chairman Berman or on other fellow Democrats in the House committee, where they have a majority?

    One reason could be the level of U.S. frustration with Turkey’s leaders. The patience with Ankara’s handling of the Armenian-Turkish issue may be running out. The administration was hoping that the protocols wouldn’t be held hostage by domestic politics in Turkey and be delayed in the long process of parliamentary politicking.

    President Barack Obama and Clinton have told Turkish leaders many times that they should not tie the ratification of the protocols to the resolution of other difficult issues, such as the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Just a day before the committee vote, Obama urged his Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul to speed up ratification.

    Now that the House panel has passed the resolution, which could go to the full House for a vote at any time, the White House may now have a tool to break Ankara’s unwillingness to move forward and normalize its relations with neighboring Armenia. The Obama administration can now say, “Ratify the protocols or the genocide resolution will go to the full House for a vote.”

    There is, however, another trend that is unlikely to be reversed. It’s becoming increasingly difficult for a U.S. presidential candidate, including Obama, to promise Armenian-Americans to recognize their century-old tragedy as genocide, and then break that promise once elected president. How many times can Obama skip the word “genocide” in his annual proclamation on the mass killings of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire? He already did last year. What will happen this year?

    — Harry Tamrazian

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    by: mark munger from: USA

    March 08, 2010 04:05
    The writer with Armenian roots is wrong in his assertion. Not only it will damage US-Turkey relations and US interests, it will delay any improvements in the Turkey-Armenian-Azerbaijani settlement.

    by: Fariz from: Fargo

    March 08, 2010 01:50
    It seems that the author care only about if Obama keeps his promise not what will actually help to Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan. The latter is more important than what President Obama thought about happenings in 1915 amid the World War I. This issue has yet to be resolved by historians and there exist a long list of historical facts proving that these events cannot be called “genocide.” Instead of doing jobs of historians, politicians in Congress and White House need to ponder about how to bring peace to Caucasus and reconcile Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan. The answer to this question is hidden in the answer to another: who broke the peace, who is the invader and who brutally attacked its neighbors’ internationally recognized lands? The answer is obvious from UN resolutions that it is Armenia. Then what needs to be done is to force Armenia to vacate these lands. Many times Turkey pointed out that it will not open the borders before Armenia vacates Azerbaijani lands. Thus all what US Congress and White House need to do is to increase the pressure on Armenia to really show its intentions for peace.
    This resolution does not prove anything from historical point of view, and yet it doesn’t provide any help to the region. I am very disappointed of wasted time and energy of House members because of the persistent appearance of this resolution.

    by: Kirlikovali from: Los Angeles

    March 08, 2010 00:39
    Passage of the Turkey-Armenia protocols in the Turkish parliament is not thrown into disarray. Rapprochement between Turkey and Armenia I also endangered by a self-serving move by irresponsible politicians designed only to appease a few greedy, arrogant, and deceptive Armenian extremists.
    Turkey-USA relations and American interests in Iraq and Afghanistan may be negatively impacted.

    The House Foreign Affairs Committee voted for an incredibly dishonest and racist resolution which seems to be penned by the Armenian lobby but known to be rammed through the political process via irresponsible politicians whose survival depend on the Armenian support. Chairman Berman seemed determined to pass the resolution as he extended voting time stretching the rules and even strong armed wandering members to come in and vote. As soon as the Yes votes surpassed the No votes by one, Berman called the passage and ended the voting.

    Always the strongest lobby in Washington DC, the administration, was conspicuously absent this year in opposing the ill-informed, ill-advised, and non-binding resolution. Obama administration, unlike his predecessors Bush and Clinton, did not act until the very end. It was too little to late when Hillary Clinton finally made that call to Berman urging defeat of the resolution—perhaps afterthought triggered by Turkish President Gul’s phone call to Obama yesterday. Also absent in opposing the racist and dishonest resolution was the Jewish lobby, arguably as a result of Erdogan’s strongly worded criticism of Israeli policies in Lebanon and Gaza.

    Given the nonappearance of the above major players this year in the opposing side, it was expected that the deceptive and fraudulent resolution would easily clear the HFA. The race, however, was surprisingly close. So close, in fact, that Berman pulled all his dirty tricks out of the bag to extend the voting time to strong arm a few wandering members of HFAC for a last second victory by only one vote. After seeing that dirty politicking, one is reminded why politicians score at the bottom of public confidence and trust scales.


    by: Kirlikovali from: Los Angeles

    March 08, 2010 00:36
    This is probably why Americans intensely distrust, if not hate, career politicians who will do anything to win votes, campaign dollars, and elections. They will even play historian to sort out on complex human tragedies that took place 100 years ago in a far corner of the world. Career politicians like Berman, Schiff, Pallone, Rohrbacher, and the rest of those 23 yes votes will disregard truth, honesty, fairness, scholarship, and objectivity, as they seem to no scruples. They take malicious Armenian propaganda at face value, ram it through the Congress lying through their teeth while looking right into our eyes, defame a trusted, longtime ally and a true friend despite warnings from the state department, put our young men and women in uniform in harm’s way… All for what? To get re-elected. As a result of their irresponsible actions, America lost, Armenia lost, and Turkey lost. They all lost a little something today. Armenian falsifiers in this country, however, along with dirty politicians like Berman, Schiff, Pallone and Rohrbacher won. March 4, 2010 is a sad day for America, and indeed, for the world peace.

    by: Javid H from: USA

    March 07, 2010 19:44
    RD, the precondition for resolving any conflict is alleviating its consequences, of course, the ones that can be alleviated. The consequence of Nagorno-Karabakh conflict is 30,000 killed, 16% of internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan (including Nagorno-Karabakh) under the occupation of Armenian forces, ethnic cleansing of entire Azeri population from Armenian-controlled territories. The latter two consequences must be removed for Armenia to have peace with its neighbors. This is why Turkish-Armenian border was closed in 1993, and the same reason why UN Security Council adopted 4 resolutions in 1993 calling upon Armenia to withdraw. You cannot occupy someone’s land, ethnically cleanse their citizens, claim it your own against all odds and then expect peace, this is non-sense. And it’s good to know that Turkish people and Mr. Davutoglu share this view despite the pressure of 23 U.S. lawmakers sponsored by Armenian lobby.

    The establishment of commission to study the allegations of genocide is not really a compromise of the Armenian Republic. As such, Armenian state is unable to control or drive the “genocide recognition” campaign worldwide, hence its agreement to establish a commission means not much in practical terms vis-a-vis practical benefits such as the border opening.

    As far as refugee details, as a consequence of Nagorno-Karabakh conflict started by Armenia, there were 300,000 Armenians displaced from non-occupied parts of Azerbaijan and 250,000 Azeris displaced from Armenia + close to 1 million from occupied Azerbaijani territories. And again, there is no need for exaggerations, just straight facts: 26 Armenians and 6 Azeris were killed in 1988 Sumgait riots, while the events were investigated a by Soviet court. Those guilty of organizing Sumgait riots were brought to justice and punished: Azeri organizers were sentenced to death, while Armenian organizers received up to 15 years (!). This was justice served and Azerbaijani side at least has courage to admit facts.

    Now, 613 Azeri civilians, including 106 women and 83 children, were massacred in cold blood with mutilations, during 1992 Khojaly massacre . Where is the court? Where is investigation? Why Armenian side attempts to deny this crime, while there are references from Monte Melkonian and Serge Sargsyan to Armenian side committing this crime? How moral does such denial make Armenian demands to recognize 100 year historical events as a “genocide”?


    by: Gerçek from: London

    March 07, 2010 13:32
    As a Turk I am disgusted with what we did to the Armenians. Yes it was GENOCIDE and we all know it. My grandfather and grandmother admitted it to me. The things that we did to the poor Armenians would churn your stomach. We deny it know only for the sake of our pride or from the fear of reparations. It’s just politics. Many are too scared to admit the truth.
    We need to put politics aside. We think that if we admit what we did that the world and especially Europe will figure out that we’re really not European and just a bunch of barbarians. But as a Turk who grew up in Europe, trust me, they already think of us as “bloody Turks.” There is one thing to use our political, economical or military strength to force others to pay lip service to us then there’s genuine respect. I don’t expect anything to happen with this resolution…but the truth is all those US Congressmen, Sec. Hillary Clinton, Vice President Joe Bidon, and President Barack Obama that are against the resolution believe that we committed Genocide. Our government is just scaring them into hushing it up.
    As an earlier commentator noted Germany not only admitted to the Jewish Genocide but paid reparations and are the most respected nation in Europe. We have to grow up. They don’t want us in Europe not because we’re Muslim but because they don’t believe we’re mature enough as a nation. There’s one thing to do business with a “bloody Turk” but it’s another thing to live with them.

    by: RD

    March 07, 2010 11:59
    Javid, all you are doing is repeating Turkish and Azeri propaganda and mangled logic. Ahmet Davutoglu initiated the policy of peace with all of Turkey’s neighbours. Armenia is a neighbouring country. If Turkey truly wants peace with its neighbours, including Armenia, that peace should come without pre-conditions. This is vis a vis, striving for peace only if the other country provides you with concessions. Armenia wants peace with Turkey but did not come up with any pre-conditions. Armenia in fact itself agreed to concessions of establishing a historical commission to study the events between 1915 and 1923. As for Azeri refugees, you seem to conveniently forget the hundreds of thousands of Armenian refugees displaced from Azerbaijan after pogroms in Baku and Sumgait. Azerbaijan brought this catastrophe upon itself. The Armenian population peacefully applied to Moscow to separate from Azerbaijan and join Armenian SSR. Azerbaijan’s reply was overwhelming force and violence. As for H 252, it reminds me of the short story by Christian Anderesen called The Emperor’s New Clothes. Everyone knows a Genocide was committed against the Armenians, but many decide to ignore it to avoid insulting Turkey. The fact of the matter is that it did happen, whether you admit it or not. Hence, all the mangled reasons why the Armenian Genocide should not be accepted are moot.

    by: Nemesida from: Baku

    March 07, 2010 10:41
    ridiculous. RFERL is carrying Armenian propaganda? look at your headline – how stupid it is: Turkish-Armenian rapprochman cannot be benefited by such a resolution. It was agreed in protocols that all genocide talks will be left to historians. Armenian Constitutional Court have already undermined this document. So difficult to wait for joint historian commission to decide about it? Because you need political decisions to be based on Armenian myths, not the truth.
    What makes me upset – is RFE becoming a mouthpiece for Armenian propaganda. Shame for the organization claiming to be professional and balanced.

    by: Javid H. from: California

    March 07, 2010 09:36
    If I am not mistaken, the author claims that the U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee adopted this resolution as a tool to intimidate Turkey to move on with rapprochement and unlink it from Karabakh conflict resolution. An excellent question was thus posed by Turkish FM Davutoglu speaking in the aftermath of resolution vote, whether the United States really care about peace in the region or human rights for that matter by such moves.

    The Turkish-Armenian rapprochement (and border opening, which is the primary objective from Armenian point of view) is impossible without resolution of Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and withdrawal of Armenian forces from occupied territories. The rapprochement is also impossible by intimidation or blackmailing of Turkey using such non-constructive techniques as legislating one side of the controversial historical debate.

    US Congress and those who endorse this resolution from American side actually bring the worst damage to America itself. Rewarding Armenia endlessly at the cost of challenging the dignity of allied Turkish nation and extending the misery of 1 million Azeri refugees does not resolve anything but only creates a negative and biased perception of America. The U.S. policymakers made any solution as well as their own foreign policy a hostage to a limited group of radicals pursuing irredentism as their ideology. Is the U.S. objective to please these radicals in their dream of establishing greater Armenia over parts of Turkey and Azerbaijan, which is why these conflicts exist in first place? This would be similar to fighting Taliban or Al Qaeda by endorsing violent fundamentalism as a human right.

    Finally, when Turks and Azeris insist on resolving Karabakh conflict in parallel, their objective is achieving peace in the region. That is the ultimate objective of any rapprochement or conflict resolution. Why Armenia and some pro-Armenian U.S. lawmakers are trying to separate these two processes which have the same objectives will never be understood.


    by: Kristapor from: USA

    March 07, 2010 08:53
    WHEN will the United States citizens and government finally stand up and say that the Turkish government throwing tantrums and having the political equivalent of a child’s “sissy fit”, will NOT influence the political and moral decisions of the United States. Turkey complains that this will harm the United States’ interests….when has the USA ever been bullied and blackmailed over our domestic decisions? What a “great” ally Turkey is, making threats and trying to blackmail. I do not know about the rest of my fellow US citizens, but I am tired of Turkey, a disgrace of a country, thinking it can bully our great country about making a moral stand condemning brutal genocide and trying to curb the USA’s great freedom of speech. Turkey- you CANNOT use your backwards BULLYING tactics to intimidate this great country into LYING to continue to cover up the disgusting genocide carried out on the Armenian people. Almost a hundred years later, the Turkish government is using bullying and deplorable tactics to try to keep the truth quiet, because they are scared to death of the world speaking openly about what everyone knows the Turkish government did to the Armenians. What a deplorable, SHAMEFUL government; goes to show what happens when the world does not condemn such a government and its actions. Turkey NEEDS a rude awakening. Turkey’s childish bullying and tantrums will not work anymore! The Civilized World will not stand for such a horrible government!
  • Mikhail Gorbachov: Nagorno-Karabakh cannot be part of Azerbaijan

    Mikhail Gorbachov: Nagorno-Karabakh cannot be part of Azerbaijan

    11:00 / 03/06/2010 The first and last president of the Soviet Union
    Mikhail Gorbachov admits that Nagorno-Karabakh was in a lamentable
    state in 1980s, but the authorities did not pay any attention to the
    region. `It was even impossible to get in touch with, say, Yerevan,
    and Nagorno-Karabakh was not financed,’ Gorbachov said in his
    interview with RFE/RL.

    Speaking of the ways of settling the conflict, the former Soviet
    leader pointed out that nobody wins in such conflicts. `An agreement
    should have been reached, and we would have resolved the problem
    somehow in late 1980,’ Gorbachov said.

    `For example, I proposed republic status for Nagorno-Karabakh. The
    then Azeri authorities ‘ I think Vezirov ` were on the point of
    agreeing, but the plan failed. May be the problem could be resolved at
    that time, but we cannot imagine Nagorno-Karabakh as part of
    Azerbaijan now,’ Gorbachov said.

    `We can hear new calls for war now. But a new war must not be allowed
    in Nagorno-Karabakh. Negotiations are the only way out. War must be
    ruled out; otherwise, great powers will be involved,’ he said.

    `I think measures should have been taken to grant status to
    Nagorno-Karabakh. Economic assistance should have been rendered as
    well. People should have been enabled to keep touch with Yerevan. We
    allocated funds for Karabakh later, I do not know how they were spent.
    At that time they told me I loved Armenians and did not love
    Azerbaijanis. Nonsense!’ said Gorbachov.

    On the occasion of the 28th anniversary of perestroika (the policy of
    reconstructing the economy, etc., of the former Soviet Union under the
    leadership of Mikhail Gorbachov), the Gorbachov Fund released a
    report. According to the authors, the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict is
    among the causes of the USSR’s collapse. The authors points out that
    the problem was the result of erroneous policy at the dawn of the
    Soviet state.

    T.P.

  • 95TH ANNIVERSARY SYMPOSIUM ON THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

    95TH ANNIVERSARY SYMPOSIUM ON THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

    GLENDALE, CA Glendale Public Library proudly hosts the 95TH Anniversary
    Symposium on the Armenian Genocide, at the Glendale Public Library
    Auditorium, 222 East Harvard Street, on Sunday, April 18, 2010,
    3:00-6:00 pm. Admission is free.

    The program will include lectures on Looking Backward, Moving Forward by
    Richard G. Hovannisian, Scandinavia and the Armenian Genocide: Prelude,
    Eyewitnesses, Aftermath by Matthias Bjørnlund, What Could Germans in
    the Third Reich Know about the Armenian Genocide? By Wolf Gruner and
    Reign of Terror: Young Turk Mass Violence in Context, 1913-1938 by Ugur
    Ümit Üngör.

    Richard G. Hovannisian is the Armenian Educational Foundation Chair in
    Modern Armenian History at the University of California, Los Angeles.
    Matthias Bjørnlund is a Danish archival historian who specializes in
    the Armenian Genocide and related issues. Wolf Gruner holds the
    Shapell-Guerin Chair in Jewish Studies and is Professor of History at
    the University of Southern California. Ugur Ümit Üngör has worked
    at the Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies in Great Britain, and
    is currently a postdoctoral research fellow at the Centre for War
    Studies of University College Dublin.

    The program is organized by Dr. Hovannisian, in cooperation with the
    Glendale Public Library & support from the Souren and Verkin Papazian
    Fund.

  • Planning for R.I. Genocide exhibit underway

    Planning for R.I. Genocide exhibit underway

    by Naomi Kuromiya

    Published: Friday March 05, 2010

    Providence – Since its announcement, the historically and artistically
    important exhibition, THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE-95 YEARS LATER, IN
    REMEMBRANCE, has steadily been gaining outstanding momentum and
    support.

    The show will mark the 95th anniversary of the atrocities of the
    Armenian Genocide and is being curated by Gallery Z director Bérge Ara
    Zobian, an Armenian of Providence, RI. Zobian is producing the show in
    collaboration with The Urban Arts and Culture Program of the
    University of Rhode Island.

    Over the past month, Zobian and coordinator Carol Scavotto have
    received positive responses from numerous organizations and
    individuals, all expressing their strong support for the show. They
    have received some financial support as well as many artistic
    submissions. As of now, the show will have over forty artists
    displaying, with more to be confirmed in the next few weeks.

    Notably, two major museums have agreed to work with and be part of the
    exhibition: ALMA (Armenian Library Museum of America) located in
    Watertown, MA, and the Armenian Genocide Museum and Institute located
    in Yerevan, Armenia. These museums will lend artifacts, archival
    materials, historic publications, and various display units to bolster
    the historical and academic aspects of the show.

    The exhibit will be on display from April 1st through April 30th at
    the URI Feinstein Providence Campus Gallery, a prominent location
    expected to draw many thousands of visitors. There will be two
    official events celebrating the exhibition: a Gallery Night opening on
    Thursday, April 15th from 5-9pm, and the main event on Saturday, April
    17th from 3-5pm.

    This main event, at the URI Feinstein Providence Campus Gallery, will
    be a brief but significant function packed with educational
    presentations. The two hour program will feature, for the first hour
    and fifteen minutes, an award ceremony of the State of Rhode Island
    Department of Education, a short lecture on Armenian history, a
    theatrical production, a performance by a solo singer, and music from
    a kamancha (Armenian instrument) player. A program book will be
    provided at the function so that guests will be sure not to miss any
    parts of the grand event.

    A forty-five minute reception will follow this program, providing
    guests with an opportunity to peruse the show, which will feature the
    artwork of numerous artists, from Armenian and a variety of other
    backgrounds, as well as a wall of children’s art. There will also be
    archival materials, literature, film, and propaganda art on display as
    part of the show. In addition, the reception will boast music and
    traditional Armenian food provided by culinary students of Johnson &
    Wales University.

    Zobian and the Gallery Z staff have also been working to establish
    official media and forms of contact dedicated solely to this
    exhibition. For basic information and to connect with the staff and
    other supporters of the show, please visit the exhibit’s new Facebook
    page: search for “Armeniangenocide Ninetyfiveyears.

    ” The show now has
    an official email address as well. Please email
    [email protected] with any comments or questions. The
    exhibition team is also in the process of launching an official
    website: it will be accessible in the near future at
    www.armeniangenocide95years.com.

    Naturally, a show of such great scale is expected to incur equally
    great costs. All the previously mentioned elements of the show will be
    vital to its ultimate success but will also be costly to execute. Due
    to these large production and operation costs, any and all financial
    donation and support would be greatly appreciated and will help this
    important exhibition truly come to life. Any donations made can be
    sent to Zobian at 17 Amherst St., Providence, RI, 02909, memo:
    Genocide Exhibition.

    As the first genocide of the 20th century, the Armenian Genocide is a
    critical event to affirm, and the surviving culture is essential to
    celebrate and spread. Showcasing these two aspects, the past and
    present of Armenian culture, is the most important mission of this
    exhibition. The show is quickly taking shape and coming to fruition
    through donations, submissions, press and media, and with the public’s
    continued support, promises to achieve this mission.

  • Bad things happen when empires fall apart

    Bad things happen when empires fall apart

    Harking back to Armenia in 1915 will only drive modern Turkey into China’s arms

    tol logoNorman Stone

    The best thing said about the Armenian tragedy was a sermon delivered in the main church in Constantinople in 1894, more than 20 years before it happened. Patriarch Ashikyan had this to say: “We have lived with the Turks for a thousand years, have greatly flourished, are nowhere in this empire in a majority of the population. If the nationalists go on like this [they had started a terrorist campaign] they will ruin the nation.”

    That Patriarch was quite right, and the nationalists shot him (and many other notables who were saying the same thing).

    Now a US Congressional committee has had its say, by voting to recognise as “genocide” the mass killing of Armenians by Turkish forces that began in 1915, during the First World War.

    Is the committee right? When the First World War broke out there were Armenian uprisings and the Patriarch’s fears were realised. The population in much of the territory of today’s Turkey was deported in cruel circumstances that led to much murder and pillage.

    But genocide? No, if by that you mean the sort of thing Hitler did. The Armenian leader was offered a job in the government in October 1914 to sort things out (he refused on the ground that his Turkish was not up to it). The Turks themselves put 1,600 men on trial for what had happened and executed a governor. The British had the run of the Turkish archives for four years after 1918 and failed to find incriminating documents. Armenians in the main cities were not touched. Documents did indeed turn up in 1920, but they turned out to be preposterous forgeries, written on the stationery of a French school.

    You cannot really describe this as genocide. Horrors, of course, happened but these same horrors were visited upon millions of Muslims (and Jews) as the Ottoman Empire receded in the Caucasus and the Balkans. Half of its urban population came from those regions and, in many cases, the disasters of their families occurred at Armenian hands.

    Diasporas jump up and down in the politics of the United States — as an American friend says of them, when they cross the Atlantic, they do not change country, they change planet.

    Braveheart is, for the Scottish me, a dreadful embarrassment. I have to explain to Kurdish taxi drivers that the whole film is wicked tosh that just causes idiots in Edinburgh to paint their faces and to hate the English, whereas there cannot be a single family in Scotland that does not have cousins in England.

    But what will be the effect of the resolution in Turkey? The answer is that it will be entirely counterproductive. Yes, the end of the Ottoman Empire was a terrible time, as the end of empires generally are: take the Punjab in 1947, for instance.

    Disease, starvation and massacre carried off a third of the population of eastern Turkey, regardless of their origin. But of all the states that succeeded the Ottoman Empire, Turkey is by far the most successful; you just have to look at its vital statistics to see as much, starting with male life expectancy which not so long ago was a decade longer than Russia’s.

    Turkey is in the unusual position of doing rather well. She has survived the financial mess, her banks having had a drubbing some years before, and exports are humming. The Turks are not quite used to this, and this shows with the present Government, which (as the Prime Minister’s unfortunate anti-Israeli outburst at Davos a year ago showed) can on occasion be triumphalist.

    This Government has been remarkably successful, not least in getting rid of the preposterous currency inflation that made tourists laugh, but it should not be allowed to forget the bases of Turkey’s emergence: the strength of the Western connection, the link with the IMF, the presence in the West of tens of thousands of Turkish students, many of them very able.

    However, every Turk knows that, during the First World War, horrible things happened, and for Congress to single out the Armenians is regarded in Turkey simply as an insult.

    The Turkish media is full of tales about the resolution, and there has been a great deal of dark muttering about it. There are Turks who agree that the killings amounted to genocide, and there has been an uncomfortable book, Fuat Dundar’s The Code of Modern Turkey, as some of the government at the time did indeed think of ethnic homogeneity (though not the killing of children).

    But the dominant tone is more or less of contempt: who are these people, to orate about events a century ago in a country that most of them could not find on the map? It all joins with resentment at US doings in Iraq, and in the popular mind gets confused with the Swiss vote against minarets or Europe’s ridiculous admission of Greek Cyprus to their Union.

    In practice the Turks are being alienated, and will be encouraged to think that the West is doing another version of the Crusades, that “the only friend of the Turk is the Turk”, and other nationalist nonsense of a similar sort. Nowadays Turkey does not need the Western link as before: trade and investment have been switching towards Russia and Central Asia; the Chinese are quite active in Ankara. Is that what we want to achieve, in a country that is otherwise the best advertisement for the West that anyone could have imagined back in 1950?

    Norman Stone is Professor Emeritus of Modern History at the University of Oxford and head of the Russian-Turkish Institute at Bilkent University, Ankara

    timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article7053138.ece

    March 8, 2010

  • Israel Lobby Gets Congress to Stick It to Turkey

    Israel Lobby Gets Congress to Stick It to Turkey

    The Israelis are trying to teach the Turks a lesson…….This was simply an act of punishment for Turkey for not being nice to Israel and for courting Iran.

    MJ Rosenberg
    Senior Fellow Media Matters Action Network
    Posted: March 5, 2010 11:42 AM

    That battle is now being carried to Washington. The Israelis are trying to teach the Turks a lesson. If the Armenian resolution passes both houses and goes into effect, it will not be out of some newfound compassion for the victims of the Armenian genocide and their descendants, but to send a message to Turkey: if you mess with Israel, its lobby will make Turkey pay a price in Washington.

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    MJ Rosenberg

    M.J. Rosenberg is the former Director of Policy Analysis for Israel Policy Forum (IPF).

    In this position, MJ heads IPF’s Washington, D.C. office and writes IPF Friday, a weekly  opinion column on the Arab-Israeli conflict which is widely circulated throughout the United States and the Middle East. In addition, MJ has published numerous op-eds, in the national and Jewish press.

    MJ spent eighteen years within the United States government, fourteen on Capitol Hill as an aide to Representatives Jonathan Bingham (D-New York), Edward Feighan (D-Ohio) and Nita Lowey (D-New York) and Senator Carl Levin (D-Michigan).  Immediately prior to coming to IPF, he was a political appointee to USAID, where he served as Chief of Staff for Thomas Dine, the head of the Eastern Europe/NIS Bureau of USAID.

    From 1982 to 1986, MJ was editor of Near East Report, the American Israel Public Affair Committee’s (AIPAC’s) biweekly publication on Middle East Policy.

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    Israel Lobby Gets Congress to Stick It to Turkey

    Yesterday the House Foreign Affairs Committee passed the Armenian genocide resolution. That is the bill, kicking around for years, that recognizes the Armenian genocide as precisely that – genocide. The Turkish government has always strongly opposed the resolution, arguing – unconvincingly, in my opinion – that the slaughter of the Armenians occurred in the context of war and was not an attempt at their intentional eradication.
    I never understood why the Turks care so much. The current democratic Turkish Republic was not even in existence during the Armenian slaughter. It is the successor state to the Ottoman Empire under which the killing took place. The current Turkish government is no more responsible for the Armenian genocide than the current German government is responsible for the Holocaust.
    Nonetheless, the Turks vehemently oppose using the term “genocide” to describe the events of 1915.
    And successive American administrations have deferred to the Turks by opposing Congressional bills “commemorating” the “Armenian genocide.”
    It is no different this year. The Obama administration lobbied against the resolution because it believed that enacting it would disrupt our relations with Turkey, a fellow NATO member and our largest ally in the Middle East. It also argued that passing the bill now would disrupt negotiations now underway between Turkey and Armenia.
    It passed anyway and the Turks immediately called its ambassador home.
    But here is where it gets really interesting. The following comes from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, the Associated Press of the Jewish world. JTA writes:
    In the past, the pro-Israel community [i.e. the Israel lobby] , has lobbied hard against previous attempts to pass similar resolutions, citing warnings from Turkish officials that it could harm the
    alliance not only with the United States but with Israel — although Israel has always tried to avoid mentioning the World War I-era genocide.
    In the last year or so, however, officials of American pro-Israel groups have said that while they will not support new resolutions, they will no longer oppose them, citing Turkey’s heightened rhetorical attacks on Israel and a flourishing of outright anti-Semitism the government has done little to stem.
    That has lifted the fetters for lawmakers like Berman (Chairman Howard Berman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee) , who had been loath to abet in the denial of a genocide; Berman and a host of other members of the House’s unofficial Jewish caucus have signed on as co-sponsors.
    Get that. The lobby has always opposed deeming the Armenian slaughter a genocide largely because Turkey has (or had) good relations with Israel. And the lobby, and its Congressional acolytes, did not want to harm those relations.
    But, since the Gaza war, Turkish-Israeli relations have deteriorated. The Turks, like pretty much every other nation on the planet, were appalled by the Israeli onslaught against the Gazans. And said so.
    Ever since, the Netanyahu government has made a point to stick it to the Turks. Most famously, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon seated the Turkish ambassador in a kindergarten chair during a meeting, and “forgot” to put a Turkish flag on the table alongside the Israeli flag. He then called the Israeli photographers in and said to them in Hebrew – so the Turkish ambassador wouldn’t understand, “The important thing is that they see he’s sitting lower and we’re up high and that there’s only one flag, and you see we’re not smiling.”
    News of that episode so enraged the Turks and humiliated the Israelis that Ayalon had to apologize three times, in progressively more abject terms, or face a rupture in Israeli-Turkish relations.

    That battle is now being carried to Washington. The Israelis are trying to teach the Turks a lesson. If the Armenian resolution passes both houses and goes into effect, it will not be out of some newfound compassion for the victims of the Armenian genocide and their descendants, but to send a message to Turkey: if you mess with Israel, its lobby will make Turkey pay a price in Washington.
    And, just maybe, the United States will pay it too.
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    Dnlmsstch I’m a Fan of Dnlmsstch 17 fans permalink
    The reason that the Turks have a problem admiting the genocide is becasue Mustafa Kamal and other founders of the Modern Secular Turkish Republic were involved – if not directly at least peripheraly – to admit that is like admiting that George Washington and other founder were complicit with the genocide of Native Americans.
    Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 3/05/2010
    – lightningbolt I’m a Fan of lightningbolt 142 fans permalink
    As usual, everything will be blamed on Israel. The Jewish people are the eternal scapegoat.
    Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 3/05/2010
    – joeinvt I’m a Fan of joeinvt 13 fans permalink
    Are you denying or defending the Armenian genocide? And are you opposed to lobbying generally or simply effective lobbying done by Jews?
    Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 3/05/2010
    – mok10501 permalink
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    Henry Kissinger was lobbying for the Turks, isn’t he the biggest Jew in the nation? What happened, didn’t the Turks paid enough? Oo, I see, that penny pincher doesn’t count ha?.
    Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 3/05/2010
    – lbsaltzman I’m a Fan of lbsaltzman 92 fans permalink
    Excellent post. I am reminded of the shifting alliances in the novel 1984. Ironically Israel had better be careful or one day it may be that Congress will no longer be afraid to discuss the truth about Israel.
    Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 3/05/2010
    – Annoula I’m a Fan of Annoula 21 fans permalink “That battle is now being carried to Washington. The Israelis are trying to teach the Turks a lesson. If the Armenian resolution passes both houses and goes into effect, it will not be out of some newfound compassion for the victims of the Armenian genocide and their descendants, but to send a message to Turkey: if you mess with Israel, its lobby will make Turkey pay a price in Washington. And, just maybe, the United States will pay it too. ”
    Precisely that’s the core of the issue right now. That the US reserves the right to label war atrocities and crimes against humanity depending on how it fits its agenda and/or Israel’s. For as long as the relations between Israel and Turkey continued to be good, that resolution would never had made it out of Comittee. This was simply an act of punishment for Turkey for not being nice to Israel and for courting Iran. In my book, that’s called HYPOCRISY. The sad truth is the US has become a tool of the Likud party. And the attacks on 9/11 were a response to that. How much more is the US willing to sacrifice for the sake of the Zionists zealots?
    Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 3/05/2010