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  • Intel: In letter to Trump, Erdogan bemoans Turkey’s poor reputation on Capitol Hill

    Intel: In letter to Trump, Erdogan bemoans Turkey’s poor reputation on Capitol Hill

    Apr 29, 2020

    A personal letter from President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was delivered today to his counterpart Donald Trump as part of Turkey’s COVID-19 relief package for the United States.

    “I hope that in the upcoming period, with the spirit of solidarity we have displayed during the pandemic, Congress and the US media will better understand the strategic importance of our relations,” Erdogan wrote in the letter, released today.

    Why it matters: Turkey has used personal protective equipment exports to 55 countries as part of a diplomatic charm offensive while it seeks to cope with more than 118,000 coronavirus cases of its own. The US Embassy in Turkey praised the shipment, which includes more than 500,000 masks, 4,000 overalls, 2,000 liters (528 gallons) of disinfectant, 1,500 goggles and 500 face shields.

    However, Congress has taken a more antagonistic approach than Trump in the face of myriad challenges between the two NATO allies.

    The US president has so far refused to implement legally mandated sanctions on Ankara for purchasing the Russian S-400 missile defense system. But the House overwhelmingly passed a broad Turkey sanctions bill 403-16 after Trump’s withdrawal of US forces at the Turkish-Syrian border paved the way for Erdogan’s offensive against the Syrian Kurds last year. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has refused to put the sanctions bill on the floor, but Congress did pass legislation in December to lift the Cyprus arms embargo — a move vociferously opposed by Turkey. And for the first time in US history, both chambers passed resolutions last year recognizing the Ottoman Empire’s massacre of more than 1 million Armenians beginning in 1915 as a genocide.

    What’s next: Earlier this month, Turkey once again postponed activating the Russian S-400 system. The timing coincides with Ankara’s request to organize a currency swap with the US Federal Reserve.

    Know more: Want the full story behind Turkey’s personal protective equipment shipment to the United States? Amberin Zaman has it covered here.

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  • Why did the Turks slaughter over 1.5 million Armenians?

    Why did the Turks slaughter over 1.5 million Armenians?

    Pulat Tacar
    Hüseyin Sermet

    Hüseyin Sermet, Ph. D. from C. N.S.D.M.D.Paris École Normale Supérieure de Musique de Paris (1974)

    There are thousands of answers and this often repeated question is becoming tiring. Let me try to help your curiosity: Turks, during the first ww were so bored by having nothing interesting to do, to accomplish in their lives that they have decided, completely out of the blue, to have fun by killing some Armenians?!?Does it make sense? Not so much i’m afraid. Armenians and Turks lived for thousand year in perfect harmony and peacefulness. They were given the title of Milllet-i Sâdıka by the Ottoman Empire and they weren’t soldiers. That means that the Armenians didn’t have to become soldiers and to fight. A privilege given only to Armenians. When Turks arrived to Anatolia, they were helped by Armenians and Armenians fought against Byzance with Turks because despite being Christians, they were badly, unjustly treated by Byzance. At the end of 19th century, Occidental powers decided to use Christian minorities against the ailing empire. France, Russia and all the others used the usual tactics of “Divide and rule”. All of the men being in the army due to the ww, villages were left with women, children and extremely old men. The first years of the war Russians had captured a portion of Turkish territory which was retaken to only find out that Armenians had attacked, raped and then burned mosques with the entire populations in the mosques. Of course the Armenian terrorists had retreated with Russians. Ottoman Empire decided immediately to send the Armenian population of the area to Syria and to evacuate Armenians from the region for security reasons. During their way to Syria, many terrible things occurred such as Armenian women raped, stolen, killed etc. But for sure there wasn’t a hint of genocide. The number of Armenians reaching Syria shows and proves it.By the way, Armenians living in the western part of the empire didn’t have any problem. Strange genocide indeed?!?!? Armenians have started to talk about 150.000 victims first. Then quickly they have reached 300.000. They stayed with 300.000 for a longtime but as some countries want to use this as a political tool, they are still encouraging Armenians to have claims.Being encouraged so much by some, they ended up reaching the fantastic and purely fantasy number of 1.500.000.(Nearly all of the Armenians.) What is the purpose? Some nurtured the idea of Great Greece. Megalo idea. They have been seriously beaten and punished in a way. Later on, same people have nurtured the idea of Enosis. They have received another lesson. Territories claimed to be Armenian are under PKK-YPG-TAK attack nowadays. Kurdish terrorism. All of them helped and maintained by money and arms coming from Turkey’s official allies such as the U. S. Why? Because behind the curtains there is another dream which is called Eretz Israel and which would like to take a sizeable part of Turkish territory pretending that God had promised?!!?We, Turkish people, are very much aware of what is going on and why the pityful show is going on!!! There is not an Armenian genocide and we shall never bow to such a ridiculous demand. There is a regrettable course of events due to Armenian betrayal. We regret the casualties but we are looking forward to see Armenians to start regretting what they did too. As long as they accept to be expendable political tools in some power’s game, they will only encounter frustration.(Exactly like the way PKK-YPG-TAK is “mis”used nowadays) But of course, the choice is theirs and here in Turkey, strictly no-one will move the little finger to try to convince them to behave more intelligently by diving into the real events, by reading and learning about the truth instead of believing in self-made convenient legends which, once more, reduces them into artificial victims and definite political loosers.

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    Emre Pinar, lived in Turkey

    Answered Apr 16

    To prevent this:

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    I am not proud of what happened in 1915 nor am I going to justify it, but this is the reason.

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    Utku Aras

    Answered Apr 16

    They didnt. It was war time and armenians allied with france and slaughter Turks. Turks only attacked back. Turkey applied twice to prove war crimes armenians did and made a request to open archieves. Armenia refused twice. Turkey opened some of its archieves. The photos on İnternet is from Turkish goverment archieves. There isnt a single proof that it occured yet I dont understand why People are believing something without proof. Historians says otherwise.. It didnt occur and what happened innocent untill proved otherwise. France as you can guess why the biggest support of this wrong belie…

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    Most People commenting here are amateurs who have never actually spent any of their free time reading historic documents. Its a complicated topic and pros, by that I mean people who have spent their entire life studying history have conlcuded it was a genocide.

    By asking why? We have to least go back at least 1000–2000 years. Recently this video on youtube did a great job telling the entire history of Anatolia.

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  • I’m an Asian American doctor on the front lines of two wars: Coronavirus and racism

    I’m an Asian American doctor on the front lines of two wars: Coronavirus and racism

    “Where are you from?”

    Those are the first words out of my patient’s mouth when I ask how I can help her today. A lifetime of being asked this question as an Asian American has prepared me to simply reply, “I’m from here.”

    Usually that dissipates the conversation, but today, my patient adds, “I’m not racist, I just don’t want to get the virus.”

    I am an Asian American physician working in the emergency room at the University of California in San Francisco, and my experience is not isolated. As headlines continue to provide updates about the covid-19 virus overwhelming hospitals across the country, an overt wave of xenophobic and racist sentiment has also swept in.

    Early on, even before the coronavirus was officially labeled a pandemic, Asian commuters shared traumatic stories of harrowing public transits marked by racial slurs, spitting, and physical assaults from passersby. And on Sunday, a man wearings medical scrubs and an N95 mask blocking an anti-lockdown protest in Denver was told to “Go back to China”.

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    Despite being on the front lines of this pandemic, Asian American health care workers are also subjected to this racism. Some patients have even asked my Asian nurses if someone “not from China” could take care of them.

    A month ago, after President Trump defended his use of the term “Chinese Virus,” I began to worry about the safety of my patients.

    I treated an elderly Chinese man who had been walking in the park with a mask on when he was spit on, pushed over and kicked. He was called “dirty,” and told to “Go back to China.” His arthritic hands were scraped and studded with gravel, and the bruise on his head seemed to be blushing into a deeper purple while I reached for the stool next to his bed. As he recounted the incident with a stoic calmness, the young Cantonese video interpreter paused before her eyes teared and voice cracked, apologizing for seeming unprofessional.

    I felt her pain, I felt our collective pain. While I am not Chinese American and recognize the hazard of grouping Asians, my identity as an Asian American from an immigrant family is as much defined by me, as it is perceived and imposed by others, including my own patients.

    When Trump uses the term “Chinese Virus,” the message to the public is to place blame abroad despite a dismal initial and ongoing public health response in the United States, and to allow xenophobia and racism to fuel public panic and fear.

    From my patient’s room, it does not seem so foolish to be aware of how words can turn into scars inflicted on another human. History has shown how dehumanizing people through analogies to rats or roaches can lead to both insidiously erosive racism and mass violence. In the aftermath of Ebola in 2014, anti-black sentiments comparing West Africans to animals increased, and black people with no affiliation with West Africa experienced racism from the larger public. While geography is important for epidemiologic study, these labels reduce a heterogeneous population with diverse cultural and ethnic backgrounds into one broad category that widens existing stigma.

    Last week, ads for Trump and Republican senators in difficult races blamed China as the common enemy who spread the virus. Imagery of Asian people filled the screen, reinforcing the label of “Chinese virus” and giving a face to blame for high unemployment in the United States amid a still rising death toll. Prior public health emergencies reveal how stigmatization of groups can be a common strategy for collective coping. However, it is precisely in these moments of crisis that we cannot let racism arouse fear and divert our attention from the true work at hand: taking care of each other.

    This racism and racialization of disease is not new in the United States, but our response can be. As we ask what lessons to gather from this pandemic, as we imagine what “new normal” we wish to build and fight for, I hope we will consider the power of our words and discourse.

    Only together, we can flatten the curve, and only together, we can prevent another curve of hate crime from rising. The covid-19 virus has revealed how interconnected our world is. Not just in the physical movement of patients spreading the virus, or the disrupted supply chains of protective equipment and ventilators, but also in the reverberations of our conversations, how everyday words from leaders can translate into real violence against innocent people.

    Instead of pointing fingers, amplifying fear and fracturing communities, could we care for each other and combat this racism in solidarity?

  • Trump to suspend immigration to U.S. for 60 days

    Trump to suspend immigration to U.S. for 60 days

    Trump to suspend immigration to U.S. for 60 days, citing coronavirus crisis and jobs shortage, but will allow some workers

    President Trump on April 21 said he planned to suspend immigration for people seeking permanent residency for the next 60 days amid the coronavirus pandemic. (The Washington Post)

    By
    Nick Miroff, Maria Sacchetti and Tracy Jan 
    April 22, 2020 at 12:01 a.m. GMT+3

    President Trump said Tuesday he will halt immigration to the United States for 60 days, a freeze that will block green card recipients from moving to the country but will continue to allow temporary workers on nonimmigrant visas to enter. The president provided a rationale for the unprecedented decision that was primarily economic, arguing that he wants Americans to have access to work as millions of people have lost their jobs amid the coronavirus crisis.

    “I will be issuing a temporary suspension of immigration into the United States,” Trump said during a White House briefing Tuesday. “By pausing, we’ll help put unemployed Americans first in line for jobs. It would be wrong to be replacing them with new immigrant labor flown in from abroad.”

    Senior White House officials and lawyers met Tuesday to sort out the logistics and legal implications of President Trump’s late-night Twitter proclamation that he would stop immigration to the United States, a move that came with little indication of whom the U.S. government would bar from entry amid the coronavirus outbreak. Trump said the executive order was still being written as of Tuesday night.

    “It’s being written now,” Trump said, noting that lawyers were still working through the final details. “We’ll most likely sign it tomorrow.”

    After 60 days, the need for modification will be evaluated “based on economic conditions” in the country, Trump said, conditions that he would personally assess.

    “We want to protect U.S. workers as we move forward,” Trump said. He noted that “some people will be able to get in. There will be some people coming in. But it’s a strong order.”

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    The president also said that seasonal farm laborers would not be affected by the measures and that the suspension “will help to conserve vital medical resources.”

    Trump said late Monday that he wanted to protect the country from the threat of foreigners bringing the virus into the country and to stem the economic damage the pandemic has triggered — and he retweeted the same post Tuesday, a sign of his enthusiasm for the plan. Yet senior officials at the Department of Homeland Security and other federal agencies could not respond to basic questions about the scope of the order.

    Trump says he will issue order to suspend immigration during coronavirus crisis

    Other aides said privately that the president had once more announced a sweeping policy that was not yet ready for implementation, and his administration was trying to piece together an executive order for him to sign that would catch up to his whim.

    The president has broad authority to restrict entry into the United States — a point the Supreme Court affirmed in upholding his controversial entry ban in 2018 — and that power is perhaps no greater than during a public health emergency. State Department officials said they are still waiting for guidance from the White House regarding what types of immigrant visas will be suspended.

    Immigrant visas are issued for those who have been approved to move permanently to the United States. The majority are family members of U.S. citizens or permanent residents.

    Some immigrant visas also are granted to those who have jobs waiting for them, including nurses planning to work at hospitals. A smaller number of special immigrant visas are granted for a variety of foreigners, including religious ministers, and Iraqis and Afghans who worked for the U.S. government.

    The United States already has suspended routine visa services overseas, so that very few would-be immigrants are likely to be stopped just before they board planes.

    Though the policy move has been presented as a way to protect the United States from imported cases of the coronavirus, the outbreak is well-established across the country and has been for more than a month. The United States has more confirmed coronavirus cases, by far, than any other country, with nearly 800,000 as of Tuesday afternoon. The next highest national total is Spain’s, at 204,000 cases. The United States also has far more confirmed virus-related deaths — nearly 45,000 — than any other nation and about the same number as the next two countries — Spain and Italy — combined.

    Intended immigrants from countries such as Britain, Ireland, Mexico, South Korea and Canada deluged their lawyers with panicked emails Tuesday, worrying that Trump’s tweet would upend their jobs, college studies or efforts to bring their loved ones to the United States. Some have paid tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to secure their legal papers and have waited years for their approvals.

    Juan Ramirez, 41, a restaurant cook in Virginia, said he was planning to visit the U.S. Consulate in his native Mexico soon for a final interview and background checks required to obtain a green card. His wife, a U.S. citizen, is sponsoring him. But now the consulates are closed and he is afraid that if he leaves the country, the United States will not let him back in.

    He has a college degree in information technology from Mexico and dreamed of building a career, buying a house and starting a family this year.

    “I’m scared of this,” Ramirez said. “I don’t know how it’s going to affect me.”

    Greg Siskind, a Memphis immigration lawyer, said Trump’s plans could derail efforts to restart the economy by alienating foreign students, who often pay full tuition at colleges and universities, as well as foreign investors. But he said a 60-day pause “is not a lot” in the grand scheme of things for those seeking green cards and represents what some might experience as a normal delay in the process.

    Siskind said he suspects that Trump’s Monday-night tweet spooked authorities in states such as Florida that rely on temporary workers for their tourism and farming industries.

    “Can you imagine what would happen to the Florida economy if you turned off tourism for an extended period of time?” he said.

    Harvard Business School professor William Kerr, whose research focuses on how high-skilled immigrant labor has reshaped the U.S. economy, said closing off the pipeline for foreign talent could create barriers to economic success.

    Immigrants represent more than a quarter of U.S. entrepreneurs and a quarter of inventors, Kerr said. “These are contributions that are very valuable to economic growth,” he said. “We are going to need to restore large parts of our economy, and immigrants could be very helpful in that role.”

    Kerr said that the argument that unemployed Americans should be ahead of foreign workers for job vacancies might sound good in principle but that in reality, the people looking for work might not match available jobs in terms of location or skills required.

    “To think that shutting down all immigration into the country is the right strategy is quite foolish,” Kerr said. “It is not one that is economically sound and certainly is not motivated by containing the crisis itself. It’s more of an effort to cast suspicion and blame toward immigrant groups.”

    Polls show that the president is facing a difficult reelection contest and that a growing number of Americans disapprove of his handling of the coronavirus crisis. Trump has defended his record by pointing to restrictions he ordered on travelers from China, and he has a well-known penchant for ordering closures, shutdowns and bans on international forces he regards as threats, though nothing as extreme as a total freeze on U.S. immigration.

    There is no precedent for such a move by a U.S. leader, said Andrew Selee, president of the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute in Washington.

    “I can’t think of any parallels to this in any other democratic country in the modern era,” he said. “We’re essentially telling citizens, companies, innovators, educational institutions to put their plans on hold. Can a president do that? I guess they’re finding whether they have legal authority.”

    A draft of the executive order was under review Tuesday at the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, because that office reviews all executive orders, a Justice Department spokeswoman said. It was unclear whether the office’s legal opinion on the matter would be released publicly.

    Trump made his announcement in a tweet at 10:06­ p.m. Monday, saying the move to suspend immigration would shore up American employment and shield the country from the pandemic, calling coronavirus “the Invisible Enemy.”

    Selee, of the Migration Policy Institute, said governments have good reasons for reducing immigration during times of economic crisis and high unemployment, or easing restrictions during boom times to extend periods of growth.

    “Governments typically try to find nuanced solutions to limit or expand immigration,” he said. “What you don’t see is governments doing blanket stops.”

    Much of the U.S. immigration system is driven by domestic demand, experts note: U.S. citizens and residents marry foreigners, or they seek to bring parents, children and other relatives into the country. Companies hire employees to staff hard-to-fill and high-skill jobs. Universities bring in students, professors and athletes.

    All of those migration categories would be affected by the type of sweeping order the president has teased.

    On Tuesday, the president’s reelection campaign sent out a snap poll to supporters asking whether they approved of his executive order, even suggesting that Trump would be influenced by their degree of support as the policy was being crafted. “Your input is crucial to the President’s next steps,” the message read.

    Trump has remained focused on immigration, the border with Mexico and his push to build a border wall there, inserting, unprompted, updates on construction into the daily coronavirus task force briefings.

    On Monday, as the head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Lt. Gen. Todd Semonite, finished briefing reporters on efforts to build temporary hospital facilities, Trump urged the military commander to tell reporters about his border wall project. When the general finished, reporters resumed asking questions about the pandemic.

    The Trump administration is preparing in coming days to debut a “border wall cam,” an initiative of Jared Kushner’s, that will stream images of construction crews building the structure, according to two administration officials involved in the project.

    The camera feed will be carried on the website of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the officials said, and could include footage from multiple locations. One official involved in the planning said the feed will have a time delay to avoid tipping off smuggling organizations to the whereabouts of U.S. Border Patrol agents or their absence.

    Josh Dawsey, Arelis R. Hernández, Carol Morello and Matt Zapotosky contributed to this report.

  • Istanbul deaths suggest a wider outbreak than Turkey admits/the true death toll may be much higher.

    Istanbul deaths suggest a wider outbreak than Turkey admits/the true death toll may be much higher.

    Turkey has surpassed China in its number of confirmed coronavirus cases, as the tally rose to more than 90,000 by Monday, with deaths reaching at least 2,140, according to official government figures. But the true death toll may be much higher.

    Officers and relatives carried a coffin in a special area of a cemetery that the government opened for coronavirus cases in Istanbul in late March.
    Credit…Bulent Kilic/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

    Turkey has surpassed China in its number of confirmed coronavirus cases, as the tally rose to more than 90,000 by Monday, with deaths reaching at least 2,140, according to official government figures. But the true death toll may be much higher.

    Data compiled by The New York Times from records of deaths in Istanbul indicate that Turkey is grappling with a far bigger calamity from the coronavirus than official figures and statements indicate. The city alone recorded about 2,100 more deaths than expected from March 9 to April 12, based on weekly averages from the last two years, far more than officials reported for the whole of Turkey during that time.

    While not all those deaths are necessarily directly attributable to the coronavirus, the numbers indicate a striking jump in fatalities that has coincided with the onset of the outbreak, a preliminary indicator that is being used by researchers to cut through the fog of the pandemic and assess its full toll in real time.

    The government maintains that it acted swiftly, stopping flights and border crossings from five of the most affected countries in February and closing schools, restaurants and bars in mid-March when the first case of infection was confirmed.

    But by then, the statistics compiled by The Times show, the damage was done. And medical professionals say that Turkey did not do enough to halt international travelers, and neglected contact tracing and community care.

    In February, they did nothing, although it was known the disease was there,” Dr. Sinan Adiyaman, head of the Turkish Medical Association, said in an interview.

    The government announced its first death from Covid-19 on March 17. But the statistics compiled by The Times suggest that even around that time, the number of deaths overall in Istanbul was already considerably higher than historical averages, an indication that the virus had arrived several weeks earlier.

    Any death statistics in the midst of a pandemic are tricky to pin down and must be considered preliminary. Many European countries are engaged in trying to improve their death statistics, which they now acknowledge are incomplete.

    COUNTING CASES:

    Coronavirus cases have ballooned in Istanbul and Izmir, big cities with international business and tourism connections, amid questions about Turkey’s statistics.
  • Will Turkey ever acknowledge the Armenian genocide?  No, not for the next 1000+ years.

    Will Turkey ever acknowledge the Armenian genocide? No, not for the next 1000+ years.

    Pulat Tacar

    Harun Resit Aydin, history lover
    Answered Apr 10
    Will Turkey ever acknowledge the Armenian genocide?

    No, not for the next 1000 years.

    And don’t take this as a cruel statement, I’m saying you the deadly truth about the situation not my own feelings.

    You’ll mostly hear about the narrative ‘’I like the Turks, they are good, but their political rulership..they’re refusing to acknowledge the genocide..’’

    Well, nothing could be more wrong. Exactly during this government time, some of his advisors came to the idea that it’s possible to settle this issue for all at once and forgot that this subject has a whole more than ‘’let’s shake hands finally’’, which ranges from Turkish and Armenian lobby groups who spend millions and billions for the advertisement of their narrative, states who are at stake with Turkey and use this incident for their own goals and the sentiments on both sides. And like expected, it backfired a lot for the political leaders and they took a ‘’u-turn’’ as soon as possible.

    That means, a politician represents in a large majority his own people, he is a guy who comes from the same streets of the same country and lives among these people. And his only chance to survive is to represent as much as possible the sentiments of his people and need to be very careful that he doesn’t play too much on these feelings.

    What made this whole subject a ‘’no-go’’ in history and turned it to a eternal denial are two incidents:

    1- The existence of the Holocaust and the aftermath results

    2- That people especially after the second world war for the first time came out with that narrative and tried to connect it to the Holocaust or tried to draw a parallel.

    If these two incidents would not happen, nobody would even bother about this situation in Turkey much and it would be solved much easier.

    So why I’m saying this and what is the sentiment in Turkey?

    I’ve told in another answer of mine the sufferings of my own family during this time:

    Harun Resit Aydin’s answer to What caused Turkey to initiate the Armenian Genocide?

    And there are around 300–500 k victim families in Turkey, who during the first world war suffered in the hands of Armenian militias. These families have carried these horrible memories with themselves over decades and told their kids, just like it was the case on the Armenian side who left their soil. Exactly here the main problem is that the whole subject is discussed very wrong over decades.

    The Turkish people think this:

    1. We have not killed the Armenians like it was the case of the Jews in Nazi Germany just because we felt so, but because we were attacked in thousands in our villages and lived the most horrible things..
    2. Why then only WE should apologize when we have lost also thousands of people due to the Armenian Terror.

    Obviously, the Armenians because of their numbers have suffered later more losses than the Turks (even that is flawed very much, Kurds were in these regions in majority, just like my fathers Kurdish family, the Turks more in minority), but they look it from the perspective

    ‘’being called a murder and on the top of it not even getting acknowledgment of their own death tolls and a sorry for that..’’

    That’s maybe less present in the urban areas of the metropols in Turkey where there are some people who want to accept the ‘’Armenian Genocide’’ because no one in their family has lived it during that time and the story is very far to them, but boy, if you come to Anatolia and speak with people who have lost their entire families into the brutality of these incidents, you’ll realize that this incident will be never ever recognized in the next 1000 years and anyone in the politics, who even mention this, can forget to rule Turkey

    Therefore, my only thought is for a solution, that both sides say openly that they commited massacres on both sides and apologize at the same time and maybe open a memorial about it in these respective countries together or this incident will continue to be spoken from one side and the others will just ignore it and move on.

    And honestly, despite the fact that my family has lost so many members during this crime and an entire village was wiped out, I totally forgot it and forgive. It’s so much in past, that nobody anymore remembers and none of us had to do something with it. I really don’t understand why we keep accusing each other about ancient things when we today losing so many kids and innocent people into war where we actually need to step in and help out.

    I feel for all the victim families from both sides during these difficult times.

    Thanks.