I think it is a failed nation. I am not trying to be offensive but there are some things to realize why they are failed.
Average Armenian still lives in 1915. If you try to make a sensible conversation with an average Armenian the conversation ALWAYS comes to “genocide” at some point. It literally sounds like they are BRAGGING about being a victim all the time; it’s bizarre and annoying because it doesn’t add anything to any conversation and it blocks the development of the relationships between their neighbors hence the rest of the world.
They always talk about how they survived a genocide etc and they think their neighboring countries are the ones who should be blamed for their poor economy and social infrastructure. But they don’t see the fact that Israel, a real holocaust survivor nation, was born from their ashes and now they are one of the strongest and most influential countries in the world.
Another thing; A nation’s progress happens through their folk. They need to accept their history and move on. There’s no point to feed the younger generation with hatred. The below pictures are average Armenian’s mindset and the lack of respect for national symbols are saddening. These kids are growing with hate. I’ve seen many similar scenes in Los Angeles. Kids and their grandmas/grandpas are stepping on Turkish flags like they are getting revenge, i think this is pathetic.
(the people in the picture above are Armenian officials..)
I’ve met and interacted with MANY Armenians who live in California and I can honestly say most of them are decent people but extremely ignorant due to their parents. God forbid if you don’t agree with their genocidal claims they become hostile.
I personally don’t think Armenia will be a developed country ever because their mindset is a huge block on development.
How do Greeks, Turks and Armenians feel about each other’s countries?
I feel sad. Deeply sad.
We could be a great! A united superpower, if we had stood together and haven’t killed each other in hundreds of thousands.
Yes Ottomans mistreated Armenians, mistreated Greeks but they certainly mistreated Turks too.
In the end it was Turkish Kemalists who pulled the rug under the Ottoman Sultanate, It was us who destroyed the caliphate. We finished the work which we all Greeks, Armenians and Turks started together in the first place. I am talking about the Young Turk movement.
Yes we forced the first constitution together. Here Turkish, Greek and Armenian leaders signing.
Our great endeavor was hijacked and sabotaged. Minorities sought their own independent small and weak countries. Organizations got corrupted, people sought personal glory. We were led to slaughter each other by the imperialistic powers.
Even after such brutality, all of us Greek, Armenian and Turk we still miss our collective songs, cuisine, our neighborhood. When outside in a mixed nationality Turks and Greeks always find each other. Its always the Greek guy who laughs when the other stare confused by the lame ass naughty joke the Turk makes.
Greeks were the great intellectuals and traders, Armenians were the great craftsman and artisans, Turks were the farmers, herders, great soldiers.
Divide and Conquer was at its best.
Today we would have none of the worries, State would be much more secular with strong and healthy non-Muslim population. We would have no conflict in the Mediterranean. Caucasian region would be secure. None of the tragedies would have happened.
Here is a song which the lyrics are adopted by Bülent Ecevit. Here the songs goes like
Sıla derdine düşünce anlarsın (When you get home sick you understand) Yunanlıyla kardeş olduğunu (You are brothers with the Greek) Bir rum şarkısı duyunca gör (When you hear a Greek song, You will see ) Gurbet elde İstanbul çocuğunu (A fellow child of Istanbul, alone in a foreign land)
Türkçenin ferah gönlünce küfretmişiz (We swore in open hearted Turkish) Olmuşuz kanlı bıçaklı (We feuded) Yine de bir sevgidir içimizde (But its love that is in our hearts) Böyle barış günlerinde saklı (It surfaces in times of peace)
Bir soyun kanı olmasın varsın (Let a clan not be about blood) Damarlarımızda akan kan (The blood that is running through our veins) İçimizde şu deli rüzgâr (The crazy wind blows inside) Bir havadan (İs of the same air)
Bu yağmurla cömert (Generous is the rain) Bu güneşle sıcak (Warm is the sun) Gönlümüzden bahar dolusu kopan (Our hearts full of springs) İyilikler kucak kucak (Goodness is aplenty)
Bu sudan bu tattandır ikimizde de günah (From this water, from this taste is the sin for both of us) Bütün içkiler gibi zararı kadar leziz (Tasty as sin, as all the harms of drinks) Bir iklimin meyvasından sızdırılmış (Distilled from the same fruit of this climate), Bir içkidir kötülüklerimiz (Our evils are one drinks)
Aramızda bir mavi büyü (A blue magic between us) Bir sıcak deniz (A warm and gentle sea) Kıyılarında birbirinden güzel (With coasts as beautiful as any) İki milletiz (We are two peoples)
Bizimle dirilecek bir gün (One day together we will resurrect) Ege’nin altın çağı (The golden age of the Aegean) Yanıp yarının ateşinden (Tomorrow the new fire will burn) Eskinin ocağı (The old oven)
Önce bir kahkaha çalınır kulağına (First you will hear a familiar laughter) Sonra rum şiveli türkçeler (They you will hear Turkish in Greek accent) O Boğaz’dan söz eder (He or She speaks about the Bosphorus) Sen rakıyı hatırlarsın (And you remember the Rakı)
Yunanlıyla kardeş olduğunu (You remember you are Brothers with the Greek) Sıla derdine düşünce anlarsın (When you get homesick)
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Do Greek and Turkish people live together peacefully in any one country or island? If so, what is it called?
This may come as a surprise to you…but Greeks and Turks nowadays live peacefully together just about everywhere they cohabit.
Football excluded where hotheads will shout and do whatever… Try to think of one instance where there has been a hate crime between Greeks and Turks in recent years. I personally can’t but I’m ready to be corrected if wrong.
Let us take the place where there was and is the most recent history of confrontation: Cyprus. People don’t live together anymore mostly but they visit and work together (There are currently thousands of Turkish Cypriots employed in Greek Cypriot businesses). No hate crimes. The fact that the old generations, embroiled in the old troubles are dying off or too old to care has assisted in this, naturally. Young people don’t want the mistakes of the past.
London and Britain in general. The Cypriot community is large, residing mostly in the capital, and Greek and Turkish Cypriots live side by side with no problems. They have a long standing Cypriot club in North London where they gather too.
Rhodes. The small Turkish minority has lived peacefully with Greeks for decades.
Western Thrace is a peculiar case, since there is contention if the people there are muslim Greeks or Turks. However there is peace none the less.
So who is the instigator of confrontation? It would seem that it’s politicians, revisionists and nationalists. That is, people with no soul, fools and haters. Unfortunately it takes one rotten apple in a position of authority to make the whole barrel go bad.
Do Greek people know or care that average Turks like them and wish the best for them?
The answer is yes. Most Greek people know and believe that most Turkish people are decent friendly folk that want nothing more than be good neighbours and develop good relations.
Moreover we care if many of our neighbours wish us well and want the best for us. We would be ungrateful if we didn’t. My father always says “ingratitude is the worst sin”. The mere thought of someone wishing me well is enough to warm my heart. With my biraz türkçe I understand (correct me if I’m wrong) that when Turks say komşu, in regards to countries, they mean Greece and they don’t much use the term for other neighbouring states, and this for me is a compliment. I still remember seeing photos of some Turks who went to the streets of Istanbul to celebrate Greece getting the Euro 2004 cup.
Honestly, from the bottom of my heart and drawing from the love of Jesus, I wish and pray that Greeks and Turks come closer, develop understanding and tolerance and if at all possible be united in determination to overcome any obstacles for peace and fraternity among us. Much blood has been spilled for us to ignore the actions of the past and even worse, repeat them.
A solution to the Cyprus wound would very much help in this. I understand however that the reality of politics, greed, nationalism, finance and rooted hatred are very hard to ignore, let alone set aside, and that politicians with their ubiquitous snake like double tongue will pursue their aims no matter what. I admit that I dislike and distrust the whole Turkish government and opposition apparatus. Hey…I don’t trust our own much anyway… Trust is a hard thing to achieve on the political scene, but the every day Yiannis, Mustafa, Aişe and Maria need not drift in the same path. Praying for the day that we won’t have one arm outstretched for a handshake while we keep the other firmly on the gun.
What are the main differences between the F-16, F-22, F-35, and Eurofighter Typhoon?
F-16 : the lightest of the bunch. Single engine multi-role fighter in several generations of upgrades. Nearly 5,000 built. Single air intake underneath the fuselage and one vertical stabilizer along with the main wings and horizontal stabilizers. It probably has the smallest combat radius while having a maximum ordnance load of 17,000 lb. It’s likely the slowest of the 4 as well. Avionics vary by generation but some are getting very advanced upgrades for a light fighter design. A new one will cost you at least $30 million.
EF-2000 : Second smallest of the bunch and there have been over 500 built. Twin engine multi-role fighter with dual intakes under the fuselage and a delta wing configuration with forward canards and 1 vertical stabilizer. It can reach Mach 2 and supercruise. It is getting an AESA radar upgrade to keep its avionics up to par with others. It has some low-observable considerations in its design but is limited. Its combat radius is a little bit better than the F-16 depending on the ordnance load of which it can carry 19,800 lb total. A new one will cost you around $119 million.
F-35: 2nd largest of the group. Single engine multi-role fighter with air intakes on the sides with conventional wings, horizontal stabilizers and two angled vertical stabilizers. It uses extensive computer modeling for low RCS and also has the most recent RAM (but economic) technology so far. It has an extensive ECM suite, situational awareness system and AESA radar with extensive abilities. It can act as a “mini AWACS” and helps to manage and coordinate the battlefield. It carries a limited strike and air-to-air mix of ordinance internally (about 5,700 lb) and can also carry 15,000 lb of ordnance externally. Its combat radius depending on the variant is as good or better than the previous two with just internal fuel and although not a design requirement it can supercruise in sprints of up to 150 miles. A new A variant will cost you under $90 million, B (VTOL) variant around $115 million and the C (naval) variant around $107 million. There have been over 350 made with plans for close to 3,000 across several countries with the US ordering over 1,000.
F-22: the largest and most expensive of the group. A twin engine fighter with wings similar to the F-35’s, it is primarily an air dominance fighter with some secondary strike capabilities. It was was designed with an all-aspect attention to RCS reduction and is the hardest to spot on radar or IR of the bunch. It also is utilized as an intelligence platform analyzing and collecting/intercepting signals. Its AESA radar received an upgrade with the abilities of the newer F-35’s radar. This gave it the improved abilities with the ground strike function added as well as upgrades to include battlefield situational awareness management. Its ECM hardware allows it to recognize, triangulate and guide air-to-air missiles without ever turning on its radar. It was the first to achieve supercruise and flies over mach 2. It can do sprints of at least 100 miles in supercruise. It’s intercept range varies on the use of supercruise but can be the furthest of all the jets on internal fuel. It can carry a full air-to-air load of 8 missiles internally or carry 20,000 lb of external ordnance. A new one would have cost about $150 million but the US won’t sell them to anyone. Only 180+ were made and there are no plans for more.