Author: Aylin D. Miller

  • How many Turks lived in Balkans

    How many Turks lived in Balkans

    How many Turks lived in Balkans (approximately) before the Ottoman Empire collapsed and Turks/Muslims living there were forced to migrate or slaughtered?

    Muhacir refugees escaping from the 1912–1913 Balkan war waiting at the quay of Ottoman Istanbul
    (Muhacir refugees escaping from the 1912–1913 Balkan war waiting at the quay of Ottoman İstanbul)

    There’s no exact or approximate estimate pertaining to how many Turks lived in the Balkans before the Ottoman Empire collapsed. However, over a period of a few centuries, especially after the Ottoman Empire lost almost all its territory during the Balkan War of 1912-13 and World War I, many Turks/Muslims in Europe were forced to migrate to the Ottoman Empire. Around 10 million, to be precise. An estimated 25% to 33% of Türkiye’s 85 million population descend from these refugees who were called ‘Muhacir1’ (transl. refugees). Millions of these people were either persecuted, exiled, or killed2.

    1. Muhacir – Wikipedia ↩︎
    2. Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman contraction – Wikipedia ↩︎
  • Do Turks like Pakistanis?

    Do Turks like Pakistanis?

    F.M. a lawyer at Lahore High Court, Punjab (Pakistan) answers this question as follows:

    Well, I am not a Turk but still want to answer this question:

    There is a Turkish Restaurant in Lahore (Pakistan) owned by a Turk and most of the staff was Turkish as well. I went there with my stepmother and they served us so well and with so much hospitality that we were impressed. They even served us complimentary starters and complimentary tea and dessert as well.

    I went there again after a month or so and ordered some food. I was served extra/complimentary lamb meat along with starters, tea and dessert. It was a generous gesture from the chef that I liked so much that I became a regular customer. And in that restaurant one does not feel uncomfortable at all which one generally does if going alone and for a person like me who always likes to go alone it was a heaven. I felt safe, warm, comfortable, ambiance was great and the food was amazing too.

    So, in the end I would like to say that Turks are to us like our brothers and sisters. They are very nice and kind people. The culture, religion and values of Turkish people and Pakistanis are the same. I had a good experience with them so I think they do like us and we love them too as our brothers in Islam. 🙂

    Edit: I wrote this answer a long time back and to answer some of the trolls saying that Turks hate Pakistanis I want to say that remember the time of 1922 when these same Muslims helped you in the First World War. Secondly, there can be many incidents where Pakistanis have quoted bad experiences with the Turkish people and it can be vice versa too but the thing is that these things happen everywhere and to maintain peace is the biggest key to success. Europe was once a fighting ground but they eliminated their differences to move on and prosper and they did. I wonder why all the Muslim countries are against each other when there is so many similar grounds to stay together and prosper. You guys like western or liberal countries where they keep you like a second or rather third class citizens but reject those Muslims who consider you brothers. What a shame.

  • Will Turkey and Greece go to War?

    Will Turkey and Greece go to War?

    Discover the centuries-old conflict between Greece 🇬🇷 and Turkey 🇹🇷! Territorial disputes, historic rivalries, and access to resources fuel this tension. Could it lead to Europe’s next war? Find out now!

  • Are the Zazas Turkish?

    Are the Zazas Turkish?

    Today, all Zazas are citizens of the Republic of Turkey, that is, they are Turks. When we look historically and linguistically, we see that the Zazas are one of the Iranian peoples who speak Iranian language. So ethnically Zazas are not Turkish (and neither are they Kurdish). In other words, Zazas ethnolinguistically; They are in the same group as Persians, Lurs, Mazendarans, Gilakis, Yagnobis, Tajiks, Baluch, Kurds, Pamirs, Ossetians, Wahis, Tats and Talyshs.

    I am half Turkish half Zaza half-breed. The Kurdish/Apoist KCK terrorist organization and its sympathizers spread propaganda and lie that Zazas are Kurds. Thus, they are trying to include the Zazas in the Kurdistan cause, but as I said, as Zazas, we are not a subgroup of Kurdish or any other Iranian people, we are Zazas. And as half Zaza, my flag is Turkish, my nationality is Turkish, and my leader is Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.

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  • Does Turkey recognize its Ottoman past?

    Does Turkey recognize its Ottoman past?

    O. Papadopol answers the question on Quora:

    Yes, Turkey does recognize its Ottoman past but through the interpretation of Ziya Gökalp who was a moderate Ottoman Turkish nationalist of the last decades of the Ottoman Empire. To make it clear, in the last decades of the Ottoman Empire, various definitions of what Ottoman identity means were competing among the Ottoman elite:

    1. Ottomanism as meaning one Ottoman nation regardless of religion and language with all being equally Ottomans. Supporters of such ideology were Sultan Abdul Aziz, Ali Kemal Bey, Demat Ferid Pasha, Patriarch Sophronius III, Dimitrios Nikolaidis, Nikola Genovitch, etc ). They opted for a Brittish model of a political union of various nations, federalism, linguistic and religious equality and pluralism. Their political party was the centrist Freedom and Accord Party. They were very beloved by the Albanians and Armenians and others. Dimitrios Nikolaidis saw Mehmet II as a Greek and legitimate Byzantine Emperor. Many of these names are fallen into obscurity. There are very hard to find sources on the believers in Ottomanism simply because its supporters are not considered national heroes by any of the modern states. On the contrary, they are hated by the Greek, Turkish, Bulgarian, Albanian, Romanian, Arab, and other ex-Ottoman states for supporting Ottomanism instead of their respective nationalist ideologies.
    2. Sunni pan-Islamism as meaning that it defined Islam as the core of Ottoman identity. This ideology was supported by sultan Abdul Hamid II. It pushed for a centralized caliphate. It was hated by everybody except sunni kurds. Nationalist Turks hated it because it favoured Islam alone neglecting the Turkish aspect. It was hated by Arab Islamist nationalists (e.g. Abderrahman al-Kawakibi) because it neglected the Arab aspect. It was hated by Armenians because it neglected the Christian aspect.
    3. Mild Pan-Turkism combined with Islam difines being Ottoman as all religious and linguistic groups of the Ottomam Empire but still Sunni Turks are the “purest” of Ottomans. Supporter of such view is Midhat Pasha.
    4. Moderate Pan-Turkism combined with humanist Islam defining being Ottoman as mainly of Turkish race and sunni religion, but tolerating other languages and religions as “foreign” minorities. Supporters of such ideology were Mustafa Kemal, Ziya Gökalp, and Mahmud Shevket Pasha. Their political party was the short lived Felah-i Vatan. Unlike Islamists like sultan Abdluhamid II from n° 2, for the moderate and also the radical pan-Turkists (the latter which I explain below at n° 5), the importance of islam was seen not from a religious point of view but rather from a humanist secularist point of view as a means of unifying socially the Turkish nation. An exceptional supporter of such ideology was Pavlos Karahisarithis. He was a Turkish Christian Orthodox nationalist of the Karamanlides community. He and his Turkish nationalist Christian Orthodox karamanlides were excempt from the population exchange of 1923 due to their anti-Greek ideology and loyalty to Kemalism.
    5. Radical pan-Turkists combined with humanist Islam difining being Ottoman as of Turkish race and sunni religion just as the moderate ones but pushing for total and complete Turkification and annihillation of any religious or linguistic minority. Such supporters were Enver Pasha and Talat Pasha. Both the moderate and extremist pan-Turkists were inspired by the French model of state, with a very centralized government and linguistic and national uniformity with recognition of no religious or linguiistic minority whatsoever. That is, they invisioned a purely Muslim and Turkish speaking Ottoman state. It’s just tyat the radical extremists were willing to make much less compromise than the moderate ones. Their party was the Comitee of Union and Progess. Yakub Cemil young turk radical, assassinated Hüsein Nazim Pasha in the 1913 coup d’etat making pan-Turkic sunni nationalism as the one and only ideology of the state as all other ideologies and political parties were supressed. Basically this last one is the Turkish version of the Greek Megali Idea. The Megali Idea was pushing for an equal empire, occupying the same geographical space as the one invisioned by the Turkish pan-Turkists but instead of being purely Turkish and Muslim, to be purely Greek and Christian. Thus Greek Megali Idea and the radical pan-Turkists are the negative of eachother, different sides of the same coin, wanting the same Empire but either purely Greek or purely Turkish respectively. The difference is that Turanist Turks succeeded in highjacking the Ottoman state from the inside becoming it through coup d’etat while the Greek nationalists were fighting the Ottoman state from the outside by separating from it and trying to annex it to their state.

    To answer clearly to your question, Turkey recognizes its Ottoman past but not from n°1 and n° 2 perspective but rather from mostly the n°4 with some sympathy and appologetism towards n°5. This means that Turkey recognizes its Ottoman past but only as a Turkish Empire according to the Comitee of Union and Progress official historical narrative. It rejects the pan-Islamist and multi-cultural Ottomanist narratives of what the Ottoman past identity means from n° 1 and n° 2 perspectives.

  • Challenges of Turkish

    Challenges of Turkish

    As Graham Howe says on Quora; If your native language is English or one of the other Indo-European languages, Turkish does indeed present a number of challenges. For example:

    • A completely different sentence structure to most Western languages: Turkish is an agglutinative language – this means that, whereas in English we form sentences by placing single words in the appropriate order to convey our meaning, Turkish adds suffixes to the end of words, sometimes resulting in horrendous-looking long words. For example: ev = house; evim = my house; evimde – in my house; evimdeki = which is in my house; evimdekiler – the ones which are in my house; evimdekilerin – of the ones who are in my house; evimdekilerin annesi – the mother of the ones that are in my house.
    • Vowel harmony: this means that words can contain only ‘front vowels’ (e, i, ö or ü) or ‘back vowels’ (a, ı, o or u), and these vowels cannot be mixed. Although this rule has countless exceptions, due to the number of words borrowed from other languages, it is fairly rigidly applied when it comes to grammatical endings: geldim – I came; aldım – I took; buldum – I found; gördüm – I saw, where -dim/-dım/-dum/-düm is the first person single past tense ending, the vowel changing according to the last vowel in the verb root.

    On the plus side, once one has learnt the sentence structure, the cases and the verb endings, Turkish is a fairly logical language with only a handful of irregular verbs and noun cases.