The Misuse of “Memoirs of Count Bernstorff” in Armenian Nationalist Publications

Memoirs Of Count Bernstorff
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Memoirs Of Count Bernstorff

Friday, 18 March 2011

ABSTRACT

 

To maintain the use of more than dubious sources (the “Andonian documents” and Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story), the Memoirs of Count Bernstorff, or more exactly three short quotations, were used by a part of the Armenian side as a corroborative proof. However, two of the three quotations from these Memoirs are tendentiously extracted of their context, and the third is just an unreliable opinion.<BR>

KEYWORDS
Andonian, Dadrian, Bersntorff, genocide, Morgenthau, Ternon, Dadrian.

From the 1980’s, some Armenian and pro-Armenian writers refer to the Memoirs of Count Johann Heinrich von Bernstorff, ambassador of Germany in Ottoman Empire from 1917 to 1918, as a complementary evidence of the alleged intention of CUP government to extermination Ottoman Armenians, so to support the “genocide” label. This use appeared in a precise context: the desperate attempts to defend the authenticity of crude forgeries, i.e. the “Andonian documents” [1] then the Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story. [2] These attempts were made by the Armenian-American sociologist Vahakn N. Dadrian [3] (currently director of the Zoryan Institute, a think-tank close to Armenian Revolutionary Federation [ARF], after his forced retirement from State University of New York because sexual harassment) and his French follower, the surgeon Yves Ternon [4], also a great friend of ARF, who acknowledges to have been leaded on Armenian issue only by Armenian nationalist groups or individuals, and to have always refused any contact with Turkish historians [5]. Both Mr. Dadrian’s and Mr. Ternon’s argumentations on Andonian and Morgenthau are, as a whole, less than convincing [6], that is why even Armenian and pro-Armenian historians raised serious doubts on the authenticity of “Andonian telegrams” [7]; but the goal of this paper is limited to the misuse of Bernstorff’s Memoirs, published in German in 1935, and translated into English one year later. [8]

The Quotations

In the 1980’s, Mrs. Dadrian and Ternon used one quotation of Memoirs of Count Bernstorff, to corroborate the allegations of Aram Andonian’s forged documents:

“When I kept on pestering him about the Armenian question, he once said with a smile: ‘What on earth do you want? The question is settled, there are no more Armenians,’ […].”

In 1999, Mr. Dadrian used the same quotation to defend the Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story, arguing that “German ambassador Bernstorff in his memoirs quotes Talât almost in identical terms”. [9]

No surprisingly, the quotation was used again, later, by others. [10]

In 1995, Mr. Dadrian used also two other quotations, in a rather different context, but also to support the “genocide” allegation [11]:

“His complicity in the Armenian crime he [Talat] atoned for his death.”

“Armenia [= Eastern Anatolia] where the Turks have systematically trying to exterminate the Christian population.”

It is hardly doubtful that if such sentences are accepted are face value, with such interpretation, they constitute a clear indication in favor of the “genocide” label, even if they represent a tiny part of the Memoirs of Count Bernstorff. Both Andonian’s and Morgenthau’s books depict Talat as a ferocious criminal; in the perspective of Mr. Dadrian and Mr. Ternon, the Memoirs of Count Bernstorff corroborate partially such an enormous allegations. However, a more attentive look gives a quite different version.

Critique

The most evident distortion is the first and the most used (“When I kept on pestering him about the Armenian question, he once said with a smile: ‘What on earth do you want? The question is settled, there are no more Armenians’”). The context clarifies the meaning of Bernstorff :
“In this connection an excellent instance is the Grand Vizier, Talaat Pasha, subsequently murdered by an Armenian in Berlin, whom I learnt to respect and liked during my service in Constantinople. A man of absolute integrity, he had unusual gifts that enabled him to climb the steep ascent from the position of telegraph official to that of leading statesman, and a statesman he was in the truest sense of the word. There was not a sign of the parvenu in his behaviour or ideas. As Grand Vizier, Talaat Pasha always gave the impression of a ‘grand seigneur’, and his political conceptions were unencumbered by any pettiness. I never knew any Turk who could fairly be compared with him. He did indeed often promise me more than he could perform. […] However that may be, Talaat usually recognized the right way, and as time went on — and especially after every visit to Europe, he became more of a match for his mighty task. If any statesman could have succeeded in reforming the old Ottoman Empire, it would have been Talaat Pasha, provided that he had been able to consolidate his power and influence. As I have mentioned above, I am not referring to the Turkish Republic of today, with which I unfortunately have no acquaintance.

This constant and considerable contrast between desire and achievement induced in the Grand Vizier a delightful blend of skepticism and gentle cynicism, which increased the charm of that attractive personality. When I kept on pestering him about the Armenian question, he once said with a smile: ‘What on earth do you want? The question is settled, there are no more Armenians,’ a reply which, while admitting his own complicity in the crime, hinted that the European accounts might be exaggerated.” [12]

The most comprehensive quotation is almost self-explanatory:

1) Unlike in Andonian’s forged documents and in Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story, Talat is not depicted by Bernstorff as a monster, a bloody villain, but, quite the contrary, as a moderate and responsible “statesman”.

2) The sentence “The question is settled, there are no more Armenians” is an expression of black humor, criticizing the distorted narrative of pro-Armenian propaganda.

3) Bernstorff does not present Talat as the supervisor of crimes perpetrated against Armenian civilians, but as an “accomplice”.

What Bernstorff means by “complicity” is explained by the context of the second misused quotation:

“His complicity in the Armenian crime he atoned for his death. On this matter he was an offspring of his nation. The statesmen of other lands have often been equally guilty in not opposing and rebuking the prejudices of their fellow-citizens, and it would be unjust to apply European standards to a Turkish statesman, even to one of the caliber of Talaat Pasha.” [13]

So, it is clear that Bernstorff blamed Talat for his incapacity to prevent atrocities committed by some Turks, Kurds, Circassians and Arabs against displaced Armenians, not for any criminal designs against these exiles.

Arrived to this point, let’s notice that the Memoirs of General Otto Liman von Sanders, chief of German military mission in Ottoman Empire (1913-1918), contain also great a praising of Talat’s character, as well as a rebuttal of central government’s guilty in atrocities committed against a part of displaced Armenians. [14]

The third and last quotation (“Armenia [= Eastern Anatolia] where the Turks have systematically trying to exterminate the Christian population” in 1915-1916) is nor distorted neither tendentiously extracted of its context, and so is the single which could be used to support the “genocide” label — however a strange “genocide”, concerning only Armenians of Eastern Anatolia, and not desired by the actual Ottoman central authorities, contrary to all the literature supporting such a label for the Armenian case. Anyway, the Memoirs of Count Bernstorff, like any other historical source, have to be submitted to internal and external critiques.

Bernstorff was not in Turkey but in USA during the Armenian displacement of 1915-1916; as ambassador in Ottoman Empire, he did not quit Istanbul; nowhere in his Memoirs, he claims to have carried a particular investigation on 1915-1916 events, for instance in interviewing German officials of embassy and consulates; nowhere Bernstorff mentions the fifth-column role played from the beginning of WWI Armenian revolutionaries, a fact well documented in German sources [15];  despite his praising of Talat Pasha, Bernstorff’s prejudices about Oriental peoples (surely not worse than the average of his time, that is right) and his lack of curiosity for Turkey (he acknowledges to know roughly nothing on Kemalist Republic) are clear in his book. No one of these facts shows Bernstorff as a first-choice witness for the tragedy of 1915-1916.

More important is the fact that several German witnesses, who were in Eastern Anatolia during WWI, have a quite different version of the story. Especially, General Felix Guse argued that the goal of the forced displacement was to crush the numerous, and coordinated, rebellions of Armenian revolutionary committees which started as early as 1914; and that the atrocities against displaced Armenians were not systematic. [16] General Friedrich Bronsart von Schellendorf supported the same conclusions, and stressed on the absence of criminal designs in Talat’s policy vis-à-vis the Armenians. [17] Heinrich Bergfeld, German consul in Trabzon, whose reports are also used highly selectively by Armenian and pro-Armenian writers — including Mr. Ternon —, concluded, too, that the fate of Armenian deportees was extremely variable, depending on the quality of the escort. [18] The findings of Ernst Jäckh, a German scholar who carried out unofficial missions for German government in Ottoman Empire during WWI, corroborate these conclusions. [19]

Similarly, the journalists Gustav Hjalmar Pravitz (Swedish), George Abel Schreiner (American), and Stefan Steiner (Austrian), who investigated in eastern Anatolia — and even, for the first, in Arab provinces — testified that there was no systematic destruction of Armenians; all three stressed that bureaucratic ineptness and lack of relevant material were mostly responsible for the human losses, and that allegations of atrocities widely diffused in Western countries contained a substantial part of inventions and exaggerations. [20] Stefan Steiner witnessed also the war crimes of Armenian volunteers against Turkish civilians in 1918. [21]

Even in the Blue Book published in 1916 by the Bryce-Toynbee team [22], one can find at least one Western testimony, the statement of the missionary Mary L. Graffam, rejecting explicitly the allegation of systematic extermination, as well as any blame on top-rank Ottoman officials or Ottoman government. [23] Unlike the majority of sources used in the work of “war propaganda” (according to Arnold J. Tonybee’s proper words [24]), Graffam testified only on what she saw, and interviewed both Turks and Armenians.

The major Edward W. C. Noel, sent in 1919 to Anatolia by British government to fight the Kemalists, concluded, after investigation, that Turkish atrocities against Armenians during WWI were “isolated” — at least in the region where he travelled —, and added that the war crimes of Armenian and Nestorian volunteers against Kurds in 1916 were — at least in his region, one more time — worse and more “systematic”. [25]
So, even in neglecting the considerable body of Ottoman evidence against the charge of systematic extermination [26] and the failure of Malta’s British prosecutor to find any evidence for this charge [27], and in focusing on Western sources, the conclusion imposed by an impartial study is that Bernstorff’s allegation is prejudiced and not convincing.

Conclusion

In attempting to save, against all the evidence, the authenticity of crude forgeries, two of the most prominent supporters of “Armenian genocide” label misused of the Memoirs of Count Bernstorff, by distorted quotations and the elevation of one unreliable opinion until the rank of evidence. Both these authors are perfectly able to understand that they do not make an honest and scholar use of Bernstorff’s book. But such a finding will surprise nobody familiarized with Mr. Dadrian’s and Mr. Ternon’s selective, and in several cases purely misleading, use of sources. [28]
The scholar study of Armenian issue, a highly sensitive and politicized topic, aggravated far after 1916 by Armenian terrorism and use of both verbal and physical violence — until an attempt of murder by explosives — against historians who disagree with “genocide” allegation [29], needs a special attention to the classical duties of historical work. The shortcomings are certainly not coming from the Armenian side only, but the recurrent use of notorious forgeries — like the “Andonian documents”, the Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story, or Mevlanzade Rifat’s book — and seriously dishonest quotations is the exclusivity of Armenian and pro-Armenian authors. [30] A real debate on the tragedy of 1915-1916 requests that scholars calling “genocide” the fate of Ottoman Armenians express clearly and definitely their condemnation of misleading propaganda; and their acceptance that those who challenge the charge of “genocide” are not necessarily lackeys of the Turkish government, mislead idiots or morally obtuse individuals. Unfortunately, excepted Hilmar Kaiser, few supporters of “Armenian genocide” label have such a scholar level. The basic fact that, since 1915, no one conclusive evidence was showed to support the charge of planned extermination [31] and, on the other hand, the  strong proofs that Ottoman government severely punished several hundreds of Muslims who believed wrongly that everything was permitted during the forced displacement [32], as well as positive measures — like the protective policy of Djemal Pasha (Cemal Paşa), third figure of CUP regime, in favor of Armenian exiles [33] or the big expenses of central government for them [34] —, should however incite to humility and prudence.

The needed reconciliation between Turks and Armenian implies an impartial study of the past and a mutual, full condemnation of crimes committed from both sides. Until today, the huge historical literature “contains frequently considerable historical distortions, which takes away any value to it,” as pointed correctly Prof. Xavier de Planhol, one of the best scholars of Turkish studies.  [35]The misuse of Memoirs of Count Bernstorff is just one distortion among so many others.

*Maxime Gauin is a visiting researcher at USAK.

References:

1) The most comprehensive demonstration on Andonian’s fake documents is: Şinasi Orel and Sürreya Yuca, The Talât Pasha Telegrams. Historical Fact or Armenian Fiction?, Nicosia: K. Rüstem & Brothers, 1986 (first edition in Turkish, Ankara, TTK, 1983); it is summarized in Türkkaya Ataöv, The Andonian “documents” attributed to Talat Pasha are Forgeries!, Ankara University Press, 1984 and Jean Loyrette’s argumentation for Orly attack’s trial: Terrorist attack at Orly: Statements and Evidence Presented at the Trial. February 19 – March 2 1985, Ankara University Press, 1985.
2) On this book, see Heath Lowry, The Story Behind Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story, Istanbul: The Isis Press, 1990; see also Şükrü Aya, The Genocide of Truth Continues… But Facts Tell the Truth, Istanbul: Derin Yayinevi, 2010; Harry Elmer Barnes, The Genesis of the World War, New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1926, pp. 241-247; C. Hartley Grattan, Why We Fought, New York: The Vanguard Press, 1929, pp. 250-251; George Abel Schreiner, The Craft Sinister, New York: G. Albert Geyer, 1920, pp. XXI and 125-126.
3) “The Naim-Andonian Documents on the World War I Destruction of Ottoman Armenians: The Anatomy of a Genocide,” International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. XVIII, Issue 3, August 1986.
4) Yves Ternon, Enquête sur la négation d’un génocide, Marseille: Parenthèses, 1989.
5) Yves Ternon, Les Arméniens. Histoire d’un génocide, Paris: Le Seuil, 1977, second edition, 1996 (English translation: The Armenians. History of a Genocide, New York, St Vartan’s Press, 1984).
6) Michael M. Gunter, “Gunter Response to Dadrian Article,” International Journal of Middle Eastern Studies, Volume 19, Issue 4, November 1987, pp. 523-524; “A Reply to Judith Tucker’s Excperpt of Vahakn Dadrian’s Article,” id., Volume 40, Issue 4, Autumn 2008, pp. 728-729; Guenter Lewy, The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey, Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press, 2005, pp. 65-73 and 140-142; Jean-Louis Mattei, Belgelerle Büyük Ermenistan Peşinde Ermeni Komiteleri, Ankara: Bilgi Yayinevi, 2008.
7) For instance: Christopher Walker, “World War I and the Armenian Genocide,” in Richard G. Hovannisian, (ed.) The Armenian People from Ancient to Modern Time, New York: St Martin’s Press, 1997, p. 247.
8) Erinnerungen und Briefe, Zurich: Polygraph Verlag, 1935; Memoirs of Count Bernstorff, New York: Random House, 1936 (translated from German by Eric Sutton); Whitefish (USA): Kessinger Publishing, 2010.
9) V. N. Dadrian, The Key Elements of the Turkish Denial of the Armenian Genocide: a Case Study of Distortion and Falsification, Cambridge (Massachusetts)-Toronto: Zoryan Institute, 1999, p. 41.
10) For instance: http://www.imprescriptible.fr/citations/diplomates
11) V. N. Dadrian, The History of the Armenian Genocide, Providence: Berghahn Books, 2004, p. 211, n. 19 (1st edition, 1995).
12) Memoirs of Count Bernstorff, op. cit., pp. 175-176.
13) Memoirs of Count Bernstorff, op. cit., p. 180.
14) Ottoman Liman von Sanders, Cinq ans de Turquie, Paris: Payot, 1923 (translated from German by Major Mabille), pp. 13 and 185 (original version: Fünf Jahre Türkei, Berlin, A. Scherl, 1920 ; English translation: Five Years in Turkey, Anapolis, United States Naval Institute, 1927; Naval & Military Press Publications, 2005).
15) Edward J. Erickson, “The Armenians and Ottoman Military Policy,” War in History, Volume XV, Issue 2, Spring 2008, pp. 141-167 ; Guenter Lewy, op. cit., pp. 93-94, 99 and 117.
16) Felix Guse, »Der Armenien Aufstand 1915 und seine Folgen«, Wissen und Wehr, Volume VI, 1925, pp. 609-621.
17) Friedrich Bronsart von Schellendorf, »Ein Zeugnis für Talaat Pascha«, Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, 24 July 1921.
18) Guenter Lewy, op. cit., pp. 145-146 et 178-182; Hikmet Özdemir and alii, Ermeniler: Sürgün ve Göç, Ankara, TTK, 2004, pp. 77-82.
19) Ernest Jackh (Ernst Jäckh), The Rising Crescent, New York-Toronto: Farrar & Rinehart, 1944, pp. 43-45, 134 and 163.
20) Gustav H. Pravitz, “Armeniernas läge,” Nya Dagligt Allehanda, 23 April 1917;  George Abel Schreiner, op. cit., pp. 124-125; Stefan Steiner, “Armenië,” Algemeen Handelsblad, 25 May 1920 (I express my thanks to Michael van der Galiën for the translation).
21) Justin McCarthy, Death and Exile. The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Muslims. 1821-1922, Princeton, Darwin Press, 1996, pp. 230 and 242, n. 107.
22) On the general methods of this propaganda team, see, for instance: Horace C. Peterson, Propaganda for War: The Campaign Against American Neutrality, 1914-1917, Norman: University of Oklahoma Press, 1939, pp. 53-59; and Arthur Ponsonby, Falsehood in War Time, London: Unwin Brothers, 1928, pp. 78-82 and 128-134.
23) The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, London-New York-Toronto: Hodder & Stoughton, 1916, pp. 305-308. To understand why Graffam’s report is unfortunately not representative of the average level of this Blue Book, see Justin McCarthy, “Wellington House and the Turks,” in The Turks, Ankara: Yeni Türkiye, 2002, tome IV, pp. 457-467; Hikmet Özdemir, Arnold Toynbee’nin Ermeni Sorununa Bakışı, Ankara, 2005; James Morgan Read, Atrocity Propaganda. 1914-1919, New Haven-London: Yale University Press/Oxford University Press, 1941, pp. 221-222; and Ahmet Rüstem Bey, La Guerre mondiale et la question turco-arménienne, Berne: Stæmpfli & Cie, 1918, pp. 95-132.
24) Arnold J. Toynbee, The Western Question in Greece and Turkey, London-Bombay-Sydney, Constable & C°, 1922, p. 50.
25) Stanford J. Shaw, From Empire to Republic. The Turkish War of National Liberation, Ankara: TTK, 2000, tome II, p. 922.
26) For example: Kâmuran Gürün, The Armenian File, Istanbul, Türkiye iş Bankası Kültür Yayınları, 2007 (first edition in English, 1985), pp. 237-292; Hikmet Özdemir and Yusuf Sarınay, op. cit.; Şinasi Orel and Sürreya Yuca, op. cit.
27) Guenter Lewy, op. cit., pp. 125-126; Bilâl N. Şimşir, The Deportees of Malta and the Armenian Question, 2nd edition, Ankara, 2003 ; Salâhi R. Sonyel, “Armenian Deportations: A Re-Appraisal in the Light of New Documents,” Belleten, January 1972, pp. 59-60.
28) Mary Schaeffer Conroy, “Review of Vahakn N. Dadrian, Warrant for Genocide : Key Elements of Turco-Armenian Conflict,” The Social Science Journal, Volume XXXVII, Issue 3, July 2000, pp. 481-483; Edward J. Erickson,  “Armenian Massacres, New Records Undercut Old Blame”, The Middle East Quarterly, Volume XIII, N° 3, Summer 2006 ; Clive Foss, “Book Review of Vahakn Dadrian, German Responsabilities in the Armenian Genocide,” The Institute for the Study of Genocide Newsletter, Autumn 1997, pp. 12-16; Hilmar Kaiser, “Germany and the Armenian Genocide, Part II: Reply to Vahakn N. Dadrian’s Response”, Journal of the Society for Armenian Studies, IX, 1996, pp. 135-40; Guenter Lewy, op. cit., pp. 46-89, 94 and 160-161; Georges de Maleville, La Tragédie arménienne de 1915, Paris: Lanore, 1988; Jeremy Salt, “Forging the Past: OUP and the Armenian Question,” Eurasia Critic, January 2010; Malcolm E. Yapp, “Book Review”, Middle Eastern Studies, Volume XXXII, Issue 4, October 1996, pp. 395-397.
29) Maria Çakırağa, Statement in Opposition to Parole of Hampig “Harry” Sassounian (C-88440), 2010; Michael M. Gunter, “Pursuing the Just Cause of their People”. A Study of Contemporary Armenian Terrorism, Westport-New York-London: Greenwood Press, 1986; Gaïdz Minassian, Guerre et terrorisme arméniens. 1972-1998, Paris: Presses universitaires de France, 2002; “Crude Bomb Explodes at UCLA Professor’s Home,” The Los Angeles Times, 4 October 1977, p. D1; “Armenians: Community in Turkey Worried Over Impact of Terrorism.” The Los Angeles Times, 12 May 1982, p. B26; “Armenian Terrorism: Near East Feud Rages in America,” The Washington Post, 17 May 1982, p. A1; “Press Clanger,” Times Higher Education, 29 March 1996; « Veinstein persiste mais en vain », Haïastan, June 2000, p. 10.
30) In addition to the above mentioned references, see Türkkaya Ataöv, Armenian Falsifications, New York: Okey, 2008; Cem Özgönül, Der Mythos Eines Völkermordes, Köln: Önel Verlag, 2005; Erman Şahin, “A Scrutiny of Akçam’s Version of History and the Armenian Genocide,” Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs, Volume XXVIII, Issue 2, 2008, pp. 303-319; id., “Review Essay: The Armenian Question,” Middle East Policy, Volume XVII, N° 1, Spring 2010, pp. 144-157.
31) Guenter Lewy, passim.
32) Yusuf Halaçoğlu, The Story of 1915. What Happened to the Ottoman Armenians?, Ankara: TTK, 2008, pp. 82-87; Guenter Lewy, op. cit., pp. 111 and 113; Hikmet Özdemir and Yusuf Sarınay (ed.), Turkish-Armenian Conflict Documents, Ankara: TBMM, 2007, p. 261.
33) Guenter Lewy, op. cit., pp. 196-198 and 218-220.
34) Yusuf Halaçoğlu, op. cit., pp. 71-82.
35) Xavier de Planhol, Minorités en Islam. Géographie politique et sociale, Paris: Flammarion, 1997, p. 450, n. 144.

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Start sacrifiying the Lamb in the tempels ( Rabbies stop sacrifiying the lamb in the tempels because their hands was getting dirty and they choose to sacrifice their cousins the arabs.((anybody who is not anti-moses OR anybody who is not anti- Jesus AND anybody is disagree with the anti-Moses jews and anti-Jesus Christians they label As TERORIST and ANTI-Simetrick (( another beauty of the Turkish anti-.Symmetrical (in engilish)) with U.S. and British technology guns by killing them and calling it Kosher and endorsed by the Rabbies ) Stop collabriating with anti-Jesus christians ( number one is U.S. ) and do not get printed money from U.S. and fund constructions on occupid lands( U.S. president NIXON took-out dollar from gold completly ( he said he is not crook ) because was not possible funding massive the world operations ( wars and CIA operations) such as Vietnam, Kambocya., Laos all asia africa south america Europa operations ….since then 24 – 7 worthless money flooding the world. The value of dollar said so by the U.S. and tells others you can not do that or that etc to make seem himself liginamet or try to cover his tail etc.)) U.S. also should stop printing money to give-away as gift to other countries .It would be nice to close to his ALLWAYS MASSIVE budget defecit with printed money and also it is the wrong thinking that who cares massive defecit anyway when the world is end nobody left to collect money from him anyway BUT HE CAN NOT DO THAT COMPLETLY BECAUSE IT SHOWS BUT WHY DO THAT OTHER WAY ALSO WHICH NOBODY QUESTIONS WHEN GIVES THE OTHER COUNTRIES ( No wonder why the God said MONEY IS THE ROOT OF THE EVIL THINGS What means is when you do not use the money accordingly and the proper way NOT LIKE THE U.S. DOES …..Israel should must follow the Ten Commandments because God told them to hold the bag first and THEY HAVE FIRST LIABILTY…..and others to follow as ordered by the God included New Testament and THE KORAN which covers old and new testament AND FINAL WARNINGS…Moslems still sacrifying lamb, moslem males penis is still circumcises.,because of health issues in desert climate ( for the females diases to carry etc. they do not eat pork or drink alchol ,( in heat fat kills you…in the heat alcohol makes you multible vision in seconds and you are subject to even attack your shadow or complain about it or do not punch your non -anti Moses Jews cousins or non-anti Jesus christians cousens etc) THESE ARE SAID SO BY THE GOD ANYWAY FOR GOOD Please make note of it…… http://www.stargazete.com/dunya/israil-in-tarihi-katliamla-dolu-160698.htm http://yenisafak.com.tr/video/?i=159723 Easy steps with explanations (educational)n for the DUMMIES ;About human misery in the world and how it works with the anti-Moses Jews and anti-Jesus Christians ( became joint venture and blessed by the anti-Moses Rabbies and anti-Jesus Priests) Here is the formula and how equals to the Lucifier (the devil ,the seytan ) ANTI-MOSES JEWS plus ANTI-JESUS CHRISTIANS equals THE LUCIFIER (this is THE FORMULA ) (Turkcesi ; Ruh yapisi gelismemis insanlarin dunyadaki muzurluklarinin nereden geldigini aciklayan basit ornekler deki bas aktor olan anti-musali yahudi ve anti -isali hiristiyan ve de onlarin anti-musali Hahambaslari ve anti-isali papazlarinin musterek olarak bunu bile entrikalarla paraya ceviren sirketler (masa altindan veya masa ustunden olan mafia tarzi) konumunda yurutmeleri FORMUL le aciklanmistir ve formul soyle cikmistir ANTI-MUSALI YAHUDI arti ANTI-ISA LI HIRISTIYAN esittir SEYTAN (Iste dunyadaki muzurluklar bu formulle yuruyor) Asagidakiler egitimsel maksatli olup insan muzurlugunu (( insan icindeki seytani )) de-sifre eden cok yonlu aciklamalar olup bedavadir.Izin almaya gerek yoktur.Dunya capinda iyi bir insanliga yol gosterme amaclidir…….
    HEAD START UNLIMITED ART PROJECTS TO THE ANTI-MOSES JEWS and ANTI-JESUS CHRISTIANS AND WHERE TO DISPLAY THEM RIGH TFULLY ( The Proper place to displace is top of the Mount Ararat next to the NOAH s ARK (Nuhun Gemisi )) THE THEMA OF THE ART ( KONU ) When the armens was embarking the NOAH s ship they hand sake with THE LUCIFIER (the devil – the seytan ) the geeting host for the ship ……They got THE GRAND DEED (tapu ) of the region and in return they had the kill their ship mates and anybody elses beside them around Mt.Ararat and around that region and also THEY HAVE TO SPREAD THE LUCIFIER VIRUS (seytan mikrobu ) AROUND THE WORLD and ayrica Ortodoks kiliselerinin de sadece ortodokuz cekmeleri icin kullanilmasi sart kosulmus mus that deal still is going on as we speaking now. (agri-Dagi ismini boylece BUTUN AGRILARIN geldigi yer olmasindan almistir….Turk dilindeki essiz ve bir cok yerlerde hakli ve manidar isimlerinden ,sifreli , nedenlerinin gizliligine , en guzel bir ornek ,her zaman incelemege alinirsa aciklik getiren , hedefli ve nedeni olan , gizemli deyisler.le dolup tasarlar….). and now ,as we are speaking . continue ,.Also , that is why Mt.Ararat , so important to them(you see since Noah Ark , they killed ,lots of NON-Armes, (therefore KAN TUTMASI etkisi altinda kaldilar….)
    Unfortunatelly,their mess backed by the Ortodoxs priests and they are only limited , blessing the mess only… so, they can pocket money too…(Ortadokuz cekmekle mesguller…) ((( ATTENTION ; Zillions reasons why everybody MUST LEARN TURKISH ……pure,simple, and NO OTHER LANGUAGE SAME AS TURKISH and 100 percent phonotic (only language in the earth which means 100 percent write the same and read it as you write ….) and even trying to translate of meaning of the someting in TURKISH to the other languages IT CAN NOT BE SAME AS TURKISH WHAT IT MEANS 100 PERCENT ACCURACY FOR THAT PERSON HEAD START .(( Hedefi 12 den vuran TURKCE ve kisinin dunyada en ust kaliteli bir insan olmasina yarari))Another word you be lucky try to explain half an hour approxcimetly what that means generally in other languages etc… GUES WHO ELSES YOU MIGHT HAVE FUN WITH IT http://www.milliyet.com.tr/sok-eden-turkce-iddiasi/yasam/sondakika/09.06.2010/1248660/default.htm

    Since 1453 (finishing corrupt Christian anti-Jesus Byzantin empire ) the Turks shaped -up ISTANBUL (GOD indicating in THE KORAN to be finished like the JEROCO , SINNERS CITY and WALLS FALL DOWN and destroyed BY THE GOD which mentioned in OLD TESTAMENT ) and presented to the world with along whereever they haven been in throught in human history.as usual….. The Turks made up from mixture of 12 tribes of ABRAHAM ( according to GOD an WHAT DOES IT MEANS TO YO U and you should be belong there too (( NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE From Ataturk suddenly said himself in high spirit while he was fighting evil anti-moses jews and anti-jesus christians and even without him realize fully extent of the projects how the God selected him for many things for his purposes to be continue – Highly recommended to read his all speaches -NUTUKS in Turkish )) .Recently Scientices finding IN GENOMS EVERBODY RELATING THE TURKS and even DOGS SPREADED THE WORLD WITH TURKS (central Asia todays Gobi Desert) even the DOGS LOVED THE TURKS and find shaltered and became loyal to the turks AND SPREADED THE WORLD WITH THEM whereever Turks went if you have gots to belive reality and not with the LUCIFIER (devi) ) (as a collections of from those free spirtited peoples and chosen by the GOD AND LABELED AS TURK ,TURKIC TRIBES known to the world ) ( THE GOD same GOD translating arabic called Allah shown in old and new testament and KORAN ) and Turks chosen by the God to step-on the tails of the anti-moses jews and anti-jesus Christians (devil-seytan server ) TO BE ABLE TO CONTERSEPT AS A CATALIZER FOR THE WORK OF THE GOD (Good vesus Evil Also written in old and New Testament and The KORAN God said that GOOD SHALL OVERCOME THE DEVIL ) FOR THE WORLD PEACE BALANCE (Ataturk even said PEACE AT HOME PEACE IN THE WORLD without knowingly fully religious aspect of it why and you see i have not seen him with TURBAN like religious scholar or in pretending giving shows like others at all and He was straigth TURKISH without knowing full extent of HOW GOD LOVED HIM SO MUCH and I BET ON IT ON THE OTHER HAND JUST LOOK LIKE OTHER PEOPLE Like Demonized poeople which hates Turks and they dont know they are under THE LUCIFIER (the Devil and still call theirself religos and kill theirselfd and you ).Any person or country against TURK or TURKIC ethnics YOU ARE UNDER DEVIL MEANS Because you are fooling yourself also as explained above (this is like breaking codes and explaining beetween the good and Evil ) beside of anything else called DEVIL ACT and always say opposite and do opposite of this (explained in old testament for jews and explained in New testament (for second chance for jews and Christians AND THE KORAN IS REPAITING BOTH OF IT AS FINAL WARNINGS TO THE MANKIND (not limited only moslems in Arabs which the same God used them as vehicle just did for the jews from the begining ) OFCOURSE God warned the man you have a supernatural company called THE LUCIFIER and will always will oppose to you and THE GOD ( Man Tested in Heaven with apple story (symbolic) and also named that WISDOM OF TREE ( what was mean of it is if you bypassing the honesty and you will BECOME A SMART ASS while you are being there and do not be against the perfect hormany of the universal laws with along the full privalage was giving to you . As seen throught human history Turks and Turkic tribes used from God as a back-up TO BE ENCOUNTER THE ANTI_MOSES JEWS AND ANTI -JESUS CHRISTIANS WITH ALL COST ( GOD s WILD CARD ) without even them noticed why and The devil in them labaled the Turks as Barbarians while they were the barbarians WHICH THEY FORGOT THE QUICK GUIDELINE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS EVEN and THE TURKS AND TURKIC TRIBES DID NOT KNOW EXCATLY -FULLY of their HOLLY TRAIL for the same God as we speak know (the Koran giving some clues on that and SMILING with lots of complementary ways ) My writing doe not intent one of those man-make (devil infulunce ) promotion over one to another .How many man goes under the devil and do evil acts and still claims with that religion and say he or she was with the same God again and again and hides behind the Lucifier (devil-Seytan) with a mask REMEMBER GOD WARNED YOU FOR and THIS WAITING CHALLANCE and ADDED QICK GUIDLINE which called THE TEN COMMANDMENTS (only ten centences) which jews Christians and Moslems ARE BINDING WITH IT without braging on their eachother details might kick-in THE LUCIFIER. unplesantly and kills the both side ……..In same God words everything outlined what is what and what will happen when you do not And NO SURPRISES AT ALL . THE WORLD EVENTS SHOWING That anti-Moses jews and anti-Jesus Christians became life line for THE LUCIFIER .You do not go to Moslem yet and .Pay attantions and LOOK the first (jews) and second (christians ) in orderly fashion remember who got the ten commandment first and who claiming to be first Christians (armens) and brags about it (ARMENIANS also known ORTODOKS ORTODOKS CHURCH ) and also Remember Anti-jesus Christians even VATICAN (roman catolic church ) altered bible recor ds etc. Both catogory churches made THE CRUSEDES (hacli seferleri) etc. THE POINT IS FIRST AND SECOND COMBINATIONS FAILED and STILL FAILING REPEAT AND UNDER THE LUCIFIER with man editions which comes with devil WHEN YOU ARE AWAY THE CHECK LIST THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ….You see two beggining stage of the groups continue to be under violations before and now and helping eachother under the devil Unless they stop their LUCIFIER (devil act) The Turks and the Moslems not to be attacked or say against them (They are usually in self defence motions against these two group…and also their bookTHE KORAN covering old and new testamant Makes them no threat if you go with the TEN COMMANDMENT in the first place without devil in you ) Tracing the history of man since Adam an Eve (Adem ve Havva ) What I mean is always these two group active and third is in defensive position as we seen today BUT GOD WARNING IS TRANSLATES THAT IF THE third one as group and allys altogether respons in counter attack In the lucifier game (devil wish everrybody must kill eachother ) THAT WILL BE END OF THE WORLD and EVERYBODY LOSES and no more chances left ……. SO ,THAT IS WHY YOU SHOULD NOT MESS WITH EVEN THE WORD of TURK or TURKIC ETHNICS ( Because as indicated above TURK and TURKIC ETHNICS througout man kind without even they are aware completly THEY ARE CHOSEN AS A WILD CARD BY THE SAME GOD as counterbalance to the anti-moses jews and to the anti-jesus christians ) AS WE SEE the from start the HORNY ONES are still beeing tool the Lucifier lifeline which are THE ANTI -MOSES JEWS and anti-jesus christians ) The Turks and Turkic Ethnics are before and recent landlords of the jews Christians (ortodoxs ARMENS ) terotories WITH THE GOD PURPOUSE , BECAUSE YOU ARE SCREWED-UP and WERE NOT LIVING-UP TO THE TEN COMMANDMET ANY WAY and YOU ARE EVICTED and NEW SHERIFF IS IN TOWN..(even old testemant writes IF YOU BE GOOD I HEALE YOUR LAND ).. THAT IS WHY TURKS .THEY DID SLAMED IN YOUR FACE AND DID and STILL DOING HOUSE CLEAN-UP FOR THE SAKE OF THE WORLD and FOR THE GOD SAKE……… Are you still disagree , look anti-moses jews are still are pimping the world ,and . also, So called bragging about fist christians ( ARMENS ) doing same and also from time to time , anti-Moses jews joint attack the Turks and Turkic tribes-Nations , together with the Armens . OFCOURSE , sometime they pretending to the Turks friendly and get ready for other evil thing to do etc. UNDER THE LUCIFIER (the devil -Seytan ) ( Seytan durtmesi) They use , churces , for whearhouse , for evil purpuse and masking it with religon , TO DECIVE YOU .. SO , WHAT WE HAVE HERE,AFTER ALL as a result , when the armens was embarking the NOAH s ship they hand sake with THE LUCIFIER (the devil – the seytan ) the geeting host for the ship ……They got THE DEED (tapu ) of the region and in return they had the kill their ship mates and anybody elses beside them , around the Mt.Ararat (Agri Dagi) and around that region and also ,part of the deal with THE LUCIFIER , THEY HAVE TO SPREAD , THE LUCIFIER VIRUS AROUND THE WORLD and that deal are still going on , as now., with the combinations of devil groupigs. as indicated above.)……REMEDIES for anti-moses jews and anti-jesus christians is has to follow AS INDICATED BELOW ; (They HOLD THE BAG first , from the God and do not look to the Turks and the moslems yet . before than (you must be complied the ten commandments , first , yourself ) , IF YOU DO NOT , (what means is , still , THE DEVIL GOT YOU ) and they do not know , while they are the devil , they will point to the Turks and the Turkic tribes -Nations , as a devil , etc. KAPISSSS) since , they (moslems) also , know THE TEN COMMENDMENTS .. but , you , got the bag , first ( God gave you first now you have liability ) you (anti-moses jews and anti-Jesus christians ) are subject to showing , the first , good or evil acts etc. ………and also , secondly , recommended you all , LISTEN the http://www.yayinonline.com/radyo/Anadolunun_Sesi.asp# ANADOLUNUN SESI RADYOSU. Anadolunun topragindan ve her kosesinden fiskiran ve asirlaca sizin de parcanizin oldugu ( kaybolmus baglantiniza geri donus ) ve halk muzikleri ve degisik calgi aletleri , deyisler ve soylesileri ile STERIO olarak 24 saat yayindadir.Bos olan bataryanizi , zem zem suyu gibi , ruh boslugunuzu doldurmaniz ve beyin dalgalarinizin duzeni icin , calisirken ve uyurken dinlemeniz tavsiye edilir ( + ) isareti tuslanirsa ses yukselir (—) isareti tuslanirsa ses azalir ( sterio ayarlamasi ) ….THE LUCIFIER , The Formula and THE RULE of the Devil MUST BE OPPOSITE OF THE TRUTH and REPEAT IT LIKE BROKEN RECORD ( THE PERSON WHO EXPOSED TO THE LUCIFIER ( SHOWING THREE SIGNS and explained in the God book as followes;

    (( SEYTAN DURTMESI atasozu )) ORTODOKSLAR VE ANTI-MUSA LILAR ( On Emir e karsi olanlar ) YANI BIZE KARSI ( Allah in dogrusuna karsi) SEYTAN ETKISIN DE KALARAK ORTADOKUZ CEKMEYE CALISIYORLAR …. VE OYLE KI INSANLAR ASIRLARCA , BILMEDEN ve BILINMEDEN ve BILMEK ISTEMEDEN ……. (seytan durtmesi ) (atasozu )
    ALLAH DEMIS KI ;
    1) Dogruyu gosterince , seytan etkisinde olanlarin gozunu ,perde orter
    2)Dogruyu soyleyince , seytan etkisinde olanlarin kulagi ,sagir gibi olur.
    3) SEYTAN ETKISINDE OLANLAR , DOGRUYU SOYLEYEMEZ ,KABUL EDEMEZ,TERSINDEN GIDER , KIRIK PLAK GIBI TEKRARINI YAPAR….. Rahatsizlik duyar …. Tam tersini soyler ( Lucifier virus =seytan mikrobu nun yan etkisi ,altinda kalmak ..,,yuksek ates ile kivranan insan …Zambi gibi aramizda dolasanlar…seytana masa olanlar..digerlerini uzenler..vesaire)
    (( SEYTAN DURTMESI atasozu )) ORTODOKSLAR VE ANTI-MUSA LILAR ( On Emir e karsi olanlar ) YANI BIZE KARSI ( Allah in dogrusuna karsi) SEYTAN ETKISIN DE KALARAK ORTADOKUZ CEKMEYE CALISIYORLAR …. VE OYLE KI INSANLAR ASIRLARCA , BILMEDEN ve BILINMEDEN ve BILMEK ISTEMEDEN ……. (seytan durtmesi ) (atasozu )
    ALLAH IN SUPRIZI (anti-Musali lara ve anti-Isa li Hiristiyan lara…). ( ALLAH IN SECTIGI TURKLER , DOGRU YOLDA , GECMISTE KANLAR DOKME PAHASINA , YOLDAN CIKMISLARA HATIRLATMA …)
    ( Turkler, Ibrahim (Abraham) in cocuklari olup, 12 kabileden birisidir…Tevrat ta bahsi gecen kayip kabile, (Turkler ) ( isim verilmiyor, fakat ,Turklerden baskasi gorulemiyor ve her zaman ve her olayda insanlik tarihinde …Yani gosterge, her zaman ,TURKLERI ve Turkic kabile -Turk devletlerini ( Cin sirindan bugunku Turkiye ye kadar) Gosteriyor , baskalari cikmiyor , Insanlik tarihinde . Seytanin kuyruguna basmak, gormemezlikten gelenlerin , gozune sokmak , Madrabazlik ta israr eden ve seytanlik yapanlarin kicina sokmak….ve yoldan cikmis , oteki kabilelere ve seytana yol gostermesi icin Allah in sectigi kabile Turkler ve Turk kabileleridir…vesaire…) ( Allah in Son Kutsal Kitabi Kuran da ve Allah in son peygamberi Muhammed in hadislerinde de Turklerin ismi bir cok kere acik ve ustu kapali olarak geciyor… Tevrat taki kayip kabile gizemi nide boylece desifre etmis oluyor ( Anlayan saz caliyor anlamayan kaz caliyor -_Atasozu) . ve anti-musali yahudi ve anti-musali ve anti- Isa li hiristiyanlari sucluyor …. Onlara Verdigi cezalari hatirlatiyor ,Tevrat ve Incil deki gosterdiklerini tekrar ediyor ve son eklemelerini de butun dunya daki insanlari kapsiyarak , son sozlerini bitiriyor ) ( Allah, Kuran nin son kitabi oldugunu ve melek Cebrail ( Angel Gabriel ) tarafindan , Peygamber Muhammed e ilettigini ve Tevrat ve Incil de gosterdiklerini , yazdiklarini ve ikazlarini ve butun peygamberlerini, hatirlatiyor ( Adem ve Havva dahil ) ve Kuran in insanlara en son kitabi oldugunu ve peygamber Muhammed in en son peygamberi oldugunu ikaz ediyor ( yalanci peygamberlerin gelecegini ve yalanci dinlerin olacagini ( Budizim vesaire -yani insanin insana veya ineklere tapmasi ve onun gibi insan veya hayvanlari tanri secip tapmasi ve din olarak ve peygamber olarak gostecegini ve onlara inanmamanizi ikaz ediyorVerdiklerini,Allah in yolunda kullanmayani ,Seytan yolunda olanlari cehennemde sonsuz olarak kisinin hic bitmeden yanacagini soyluyor . Cehennem atesinin ,dunyadaki ates gibi olmadigini ve imali olarak gunesin binlerce katinda ki bir derece oldugunu ima ediyor …..Dogru yolda calisanlari ve Allaha hizmet edenlere bu dunyada ve oldukten sonra , Cennet ( rahatlik )hediye edecegini garantiliyor…..
    SONUCLAR ;
    ;
    1) TURKLER VE TURK KABILELERI Tevrat ta gizemli olarak , Kayip Kabile , ( Ibrahim in 12 kabilesinden biri ) olarak geciyor
    2) O zamandan , Muslumanligi secene kadar Turkler , bilmeden, Kayip Kabile ,olarak , Allah icin ,Anti-Musali yahudi ve oteki anti-musa li kabilelere karsi… hurriyet , dogruluk , savasi vermisler ve devam etmekteler………
    3) TURKLERIN , MUSLUMANLIGI , NASIL ILGINC OLARAK SECISI ve SEYTANI ( Anti-Musali insanlari ) CILDIRTMASI ;
    ( Tevrat ve 10 Emir disinda yasayan anti-musali yahudiler ve yoldan cikmis Ibrahim in oteki Kabilelerinin de ciddi olarak yola gelmesi icin , Allah in gonderdigi bakire Meryem den dogan ve yine de, yahudi olan, peygamber Isa nin getirdigi Incil (Tevrat in devami olan Incil Hiristiyanlarca beraber okunur ayni kitapta ve Musa peygamber de yahudi idi.) ( Kuran hepsini icine aliyor ve kapliyor ve herkese agabeylik yapan (big brother ) konumunda ve Allah in son sozleri) (Kuran , hic bir zaman Incil gibi, insan tarafindan degistirilmemistir)
    Buna ragmen , yine de Anti_musali ve Anti-Isa li yasayanlar cogunlukta ve Hacli seferleri yapiyorlar. _ (( (isa , onlara , Allah in 10 emri de hatirlattigi halde ,onlarin cogu , anti-musali yahudi ve gentile christians ( =yahudi donmesi hiristiyan ve hiristiyanligi kabul etmis ) olanlardi,)) ANTI MUSALI VE ANTI-ISA LI HIRISTIYANLAR ONUNE GELENI KESIYOR yani YAHUDI ,MUSLUMAN ARAPLAR ,CINGENE, TURK, LAZ ,KAZ VESAIRE ,,,, BUTUN DIGER KABILELERI , KUDUSE VARANA KADAR ..
    .BU SIRALARDA , TURKLER ,VE DIGER TURK KABILELERI , HACLI SEFERLERI YAPANLARLA YUZ YUZE GELDI , NASIL DINLERI VE NE ICIN OLDURDUKLERINE BAKILDI VE SAHTE HIRISTIYAN OLDUKLARINI VE TERSINI YAPTIKLARINI (seytanlasmis olduklaini ) GORDULER VE AYNI ZAMANDA MUSLUMAN ARAPLARIN , MUSA VE ISA ILE YASADIKLARINI DA GORUNCE , TURKLER ve TURKIC ULUSLARI , MUSLUMANLIGI SECTI ve HERKESE DAHA COK AGABEYLIK YAPTI VE KORUDU ( bIg brother) VE ANTI_MUSALI YAHUDI VE ANTI-MUSALI HIRISTIYANLARA, ALLAHIN TOKADINI ATTI , DIGERLERINI UZDUKLERI ICIN ( osmanli tokadi =sopa = falakaya yatirmak = disiplin olana kadar denemek – Sopa cennetten cikmadir (atasozu ) derler , Bu Atasozu IYI NIYETIN DIKKATE ALINMASI yani HERKESIN GOZUNU ACMASI IKAZIN DA OLUP ,SON SANS bir toplum ceza metodu olarak SOPA nin gelmesini beklemeyin IYI NIYETINI TASIR ( insan icindeki seytan , bunun manasini tersine cevirir suphesiz ve kirli islerinin devamini yapacak enayileri , cogaltmaya bakar ve iki tarafa da zarar vermek ister Buna daha yakin izah Allahin kitabi da olan Tevrat kitabi zamanin da ON EMIR Musa tarafindan Allah la gonderilmisti ve ON EMIR den bir madde olan ZINA YAPMA emri Haham Basi ( Chief Rabbie) tarafindan toplum duzenini korumak icin zina yapani toplum onunde tas atarak oldurmeye cevrilmisti. Yani ALLAH boyle oldurun dememisti. Yani ON EMIR den oteki madde ise OLDURMIYECEKSIN diye yazar . Yani sonuc olarak eskiden Turkler bunu SOPA ve FALAKA ya yatirmaya cevirmisler Taslayarak oldurme yerine (Toplum duzenini korumak ve kotu aliskanliga goz dagi vermek icin iyi niyetli bir uygulama ) DIKKAT; Turkiye Cumhuriyeti bir laik ulkedir .Din ile devlet isleri yurutulmez. Aciklamalar Turk ,Turkic devletlerinin kanunu degil ve sadece Insan davranislarindaki degiskenlikleri ve Allahin dogrusu ile insan icindeki seytansal davranisa ( celiskilere ) dokunmaktir , . Mamafih ,bazi musluman toplumlari yukari da izah edildigi gibi , yahudi din adaminin Tevrat zamanin da topluma yaptirdigi kanun diye tasliyarak oldurmesi de gorulebilir ve buna benzer namus cinayetleri zaman zaman rastlanabilir . Dikkat edilecegi gibi , Allah bunu boyle infaz yapin demedi ve insan bunu oyle cevirmis oldu. Allah , sadece , ZINA YAPMA ve .OLDURME dedi. Insan icindeki Seytan bunu ters yuz etti. Goruldugu gibi bazi Musluman toplumlarinda ,ZINA YAPAN oldurulunce ( taslayarak ve benzeri sekilde ) hemen anti-Musali yahudi ve anti -Isali hiristiyanlar butun Turkleri ve Muslumanligi kotu gostermeye calisir.Buda seytanin ekmegine yag surer. Bunlarin ,Isa ile Musa ile zaten ilgisi yoktur ve bu insan eski geleneginin kendi zamanlarin da yapildigini bilemez veya bilmemeklikten l gelenlerdir. Bu . sadece Seytansal bir yaygaraciliktir Eger , zaten , o bir gercek yahudi ve Hiristiyan olsa idi Musa zamaninda kendi din adamlari Taslamayla oldurmeyi kendi kanun duzeni yaptiklarini bilirlerdi .( Topluma goz dagi vermek icin insan kanunu ) Allah Oldurme demisti gonderdigi ON EMRI nden birisiyle .ve hatta yahudiler bunu ve digerlerini ( Allahin dediklerinin tersini -Seytanla esdegerli olanlari ) aliskanlik olarak devam ettigini gosterince ( yahudi din adamlarinin Bir cok Allahin dediklerinin disinda davrama aliskinligi artinca ) yine de yahudi olan ISA yi gonderdiginde ISA onlara tasla oldurmeye calisanlari gorunce kendi eliy le TAS vermis ve demiski , Hipokratlar ,Allahin dediklerini ters yuz yapiyorsunuz , araniz da zina yapmamis kim varsa ileri gelip ilk tasi o atsin deyince , hic kimse , ileri cikmamis ve Allahin ON EMRINDEKI madde ile insan uydurmasi bir kez daha aciklik kazanmis .Zaten , Allah , Isa yi yoldan cikmis, anti-musali yahudi ve anti-ISA li hiristiyanlar icin gondermisti .Cunku , onlar , Allahin dediginin tersini yapiyorlardi ve hatta ISA nin parmakla gosterdiklerine dayanamayan anti- Musali yahudi din adamlari ISA yi Romalilari kullanarak onu carmiha koydurup oldurtmuslerdi ( ISA onlari HIPOKRAT diye uyarmisti) bu laftan ve kanun dan anlamayana, kamu duzenini korumak icin uygulanan takviyeli ve iyi niyetli denemeler, seytan taslama vesaire … saka maka ) VE O ZAMANDAN BU YANA SEYTANIN KUYRUGU SIKISTIGI ICIN , ANTI-MUSALI YAHUDI VE ANTI-MUSALI HIRISTIYANLAR BUNUN ICIN , KUDURUP DURURLAR….(Turk ve Turk kabilelerine ve de Muslumanlara ve Kuran a ve peygamber Muhammed e … karsi )
    Israil de bugun bile ant-musali yahudilik surmekte olup ve Din adamlari Tevrat ve Incildeki Allahin dedikleri ve uyarilarii ters yuz edip , seytanin menfaatina ve anti-musali olma uygunluguna gore , devlet politikalarini yurutmekte ve din adamlarinin Tevrat ve Incil tercumeleriyle seytansal dogrultuda kendi cikarlarina gore izlemektedirler ve askerlerine oldurmeleri icin Kosher dir talimat vermektedirler. YAPILAN ACIKLAMAR GENELDE COK YONLU OLUP INSANIN SEYTANSAL CIKARLARINI ACIGA CIKARMAK ICIN YAPILMAKTADIR YANI BIR MISAL AYNI KATOGORIYE GIREN TURLU ENTRIKALARI ACIGA CIKARMAK MAKSADIYLA OLUP EGITIMSEL AMACLIDIR .INSAN MUZURLUGUNUN NASIL ISLEDINI ACIKLAMAKTIR .DIN DERSI AMACI DEGILDIR (oyle gorunse bile , Izahatler nedeniyle mecburi olmustur ve baglantilidir) INSANLIGIN ,.DOGRUSUNU VE OZGECMISINI HATIRLATAN , KURAN A VE MUSLUMANLARA SAHTE DERLER VE INCIL de ki BARNABAS KAYITLARI ve VESAIRE KAYITLAR ROMA DAKI PAPA (VATICAN) TARAFINDAN INCIL DEN CIKARILMIS ( ingilizce dilinde bile olsa . Incil in pek cok cesitli baskilari ile insan tarafindan duzenlenmistir) VE KASITLI OLARAK SEYTAN ETKISI ALTINDA KALARAK VE DE KURAN VE MUSLUMANLIGI , TEVRAT VE INCILIN DEVAMINDAN KOPARMAK ICIN ve SAHSI CIKARLAR ICIN DEGISME YAPMISLARDIR . (Seytanliga zemin hazirlama ) ( Isa . bakire meryem den dogmus ALLAHIN OGLU diye degistirdiler. Oysa Isa ALLAHIN OGLU diye cagrilmasini reddetmisti. Ayni mevzu Kuran da soyle gecer, peygamber .Isa , bakire meryemden dogmustur,( ve Musa ,Isa,Muhammed Allahin elcisi ve peygamberdir ve kendisi tarafindan secilmis ve gonderilmistir der ) Sahtekar hiristiyanlar onune geleni benim soyledigim gibi soylemiyorsun diye kafa kesiyorlar (Hacli seferleri ) ve su anda bile devam ettikleri laf oyunlari ile ve Kuran sahtedir,Muslumanlik sahtedir , Muhammed sahtedir demeleri sadece seytani memnun eder (Allahin kitaplarinda boluculuk ve celiski yapmak, peygamberleriyle oynamak , Allah in esas mesajinda ve sozunde dikkat dagitmak , Allah in sozundeki manalari sahsi cikar icin degistirmek , dolayisiyla seytana kapilmak, vesaire) ,
    Etki altinda kalmadan ve Olaylari (bagimsiz olarak ) ve konulari olcebilmeniz ( yani OLCU ALETI olarak kullanmaniz) icin asagidakiler okumaniz icin tavsiye edilmistir….(ingilizce olarak)
    THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ( ALLAH in Musa ile gonderdigi 10 EMIR ) ( Insanlarin seytan in dumen suyunda alabora olmamasina kolaylik gostergesi olan 10 maddelik can simidi …saka maka 9 cani olan kediyi bile gecen (kapsayan ) maddeler )
    ve kirli isler icin enayi toplayan ( Incil de yakisikli melek diye gecen ve .Allah a karsi olan THE LUCUFIER (devil =seytan)
    Okuduktan sonra kendinize Mukayeseli ozetler cikarin temaslarinizda, vesaire
    Yani ;
    ( Lucifier Virus (seytan Mikrobu ) yan etkilerine (negatif) karsi nasil bagisiklik kazanmaniza yardimi olacak mukayeseli ozetler cikarmaya calisiniz…
    NOT;
    1) Bildiginiz gibi, insan tarihi , tekrarlardan ibarettir ve sadece Gokkusagindaki gibi , renklerin degisimiyle gorulur, zaman zaman ………
    2) PEYGAMBER ; (Allah in insanlara mesajini iletmek icin ve kendi sectigi insan . (Kuran da son mesajlarinin ve insanliga son kitabinin ve son peygamberinin Muhammed ve son kitabinin da , hepsini kaplayan , Kuran oldugunu soyluyor….)
    3) ENTERESAN TARAFI ; Allah,kisinin yaptiklarinin puanlama ( + ) ve ( — ) derecesine gore , otomatik olarak Cennet ( pozitif puan olanlar ) ve Cehennem ( negaif puanli olanlar ) rezarvasyonlarini garanti ediyor ( Yani ,listede ismim yokmus mus, arabam icin park yeri bulamadim ,cek defterimi unuttum vesaire derdi hic yokmus… baliklama iceri alirmis ve her iki tarafta da cok yeri varmis….. SADECE SENIN SECIMINI VE NELER YAPTIGINI VE TOPLAM PUANININ NE EDECEGINI MERAK EDERMIS….))
    +++++++++++++++++++ =================== +++++++++++++++Butun Anti-musali yahudi ve anti-Isa li hiristiyanlar ve Ortodoks ulkeleri (rus,Ermeni.Bulgar,Romen,Yunan ,Sirbistan vesaire ) Nedeni Nuh un gemisinden cikarlarken disarida bekleyen Seytan la (THE LUCIFIER ) hemen el sikisip sartli olarak bolgenin tapusunu almislar Gizli anlasmaya gore Kendilerinden baskalarini oldurmeleri ve seytan mikrobunu dunya ya yaymalari sart kosulmus (THE LUCIFIER VIRUS ) ayrica Ortodoks kiliselerinin de sadece ortodokuz cekmeleri icin kullanilmasi sart kosulmus mus Bunlar insalik tarihide anti-musali ve anti-isali lar olarak kayitlidir Strong Reccommendations to read ;
    10 THE TEN COMMANDTMENTS
    2) THE LUCIFIER ,(seytan -DEVIL )
    3)NOT ; ANADOLUNUN SESI RADYOSU Anadolunun topragindan ve her kosesinden fiskiran ve asirlaca sizin de parcanizin oldugu ( kaybolmus baglantiniza geri donus ) halk muzikleri ve degisik calgi aletleri , deyisler ve soylesileri ile STERIO olarak 24 saat yayindadir.Bos olan bataryanizi , zem zem suyu gibi ruh boslugunuzu doldurmaniz ve beyin dalgalarinizin duzeni icin , calisirken ve uyurken dinlemeniz tavsiye edilir ( + ) isareti tuslanirsa ses yukselir (—) isareti tuslanirsa ses azalir ( sterio ayarlamasi ) http://www.yayinonline.com/radyo/Anadolunun_Sesi.asp#

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    Murat

    Maxime Gauin, a brave soul, whose exchanges with the racist and ultra-nationalist Armenains I had a chance to witness, is probably risking her physical safety with this effort in support of truth.

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