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Sept. 27 Public Rally to Protest Protocols
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19 responses to “Sept. 27 Public Rally to Protest Protocols”
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The typical reaction by a desperate and internally terrified group of dashnak Armenians who still continue to seek the prevention of the truth from ever being told to the world via “suppression by any means necessary”, including their tried and true-tested mass protests to intimidate those whom they consider the pro-forces (Armenian or otherwise), and to manipulate those whom they consider the ignorant public! Classical! What these dashnaks don’t seem to realize is, the more they continue to use this tactic, the more the “ignorant” people world-wide will start asking questions and learn more about the other side of the story! As we grow stronger, their tactics will ultimately backfire right into their pathetic, smug, arrogant faces! To you dashnak Armenians…BE SCARED, BE VERY SCARED! We’ll soon be taking over and rectifying the century-old damages that your global-wide BS propaganda have done! So, do your worst. Your time is soon coming to an end! True and honest justice will soon see the light of day once again!!!
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Robert,
Since the Armenians are so weak, and you little chihuahuas are so mighty, why don’t you volunteer for front line duty in Artsakh. I suggest sniper duty. See if you last a week. See how fast your little legs can take you east.
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JDA=The RAT,
You state that you’re a patriotic American, and claim that you’re not a dashnak or an Armenian. You allude that you are, or were, a jarhead snipe (w/ or w/o a spotter). You have the audacity to call me unpatriotic. You know nothing about me! If you want to know even a fraction of me, just remember what I told you once before…some guests you never see coming! If you’ve got half a brain, you ought to be able to figure out what that means.
Now, as for you, you blindly and obsessively support dashnaks and Armenians!! You support all of their actions and put down anything by Turks and/or Turkics. You love to defame others (you know the ones I’m talking about). This part is simply part of your charachter (you seem to have little control over this aspect). However, you have repeatedly revealed just how “UNPATRIOTIC” you are, not only to the US, but to all free nations! You are either the most ignorant and uneducated person around, or your motives are much more sinister! By your blind support of dashnak Armenians, you openly accept, condone and support terrorism against all nations and innocent people, and therfore by doing so, challenge the very security of the US and her allies! By this time, you ought to know exactly what I’m talking about! We already all know about your racism. Take care RAT, for these things have a tendency to come right back and bite you on the posterior!
I don’t deal with dubious individuals like you who could easily turn on anyone or any nation, just like your dashnak buddies! A final word of advice…you’d do well to keep a low profile! You want to spout off, go to a dashnak forum. You’re boring us all tremendously!
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Robert,
You see and infer things which are not there.
Let’s assume arguendo that all of your conclusions are true as to who I am and what I believe. They aren’t, but as I said, let’s assume. My identity has no relationship to what I am saying. I don’t argue from the basis of any special knowledge or authority.
The fact remains that Sibel Edmonds has made verifiable charges about the corruption of Members of Congress, State and Defense by the Turkish government and the Turkish Lobby FROM 1996-2002. That is why people who claim to be Turkish Aamericans have a responsibility to their country – this coutry – to call for an investigation to identify the members of Congress etc. who are corrupt, as well as the methods used by the Turkish lobby and government to corrupt the governmet, if that occurred.
But what we see instead is an effort to ridicule and defame Sibel Edmonds, who, by the way is an Azeri. None of her charges have anything to do with the Armenian, Greek, Pontic or Assyrian Genocides. And your pal Ergun is leading the charge against Sibel, calling her silly names like “Sibellydancer” all over the web. In truth, the current leadership of ATAA should be calling for an nvestigation of their predecessors and not attackng a woman whose chages can all be confirmed by listening to FBI tapes.
I have said nothing about the Corps. I recommended hat you channel your hatred and energy into something patriOtic, instead of serving the interets of a foreign power on a website nobody reads.
And if you and your imaginary friends want to meet, bring it on, little bobby.
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JDA=The RAT,
You JUST said it yourself…”I don’t argue from the basis of any special knowledge or authority”. So by your very words, you admit that by default, you don’t know what you’re talking about, have little to no knowledge of the topic, but instead are following dashnak party lines of BS propaganda! All you’re doing is simply regurgitating what you’ve been spoon-fed by Armenian dashnaks! Then what do you do next? You have no where to go (due to a lack of true knowledge of the subject…your words, not mine!), so you try to belittle Ergun once more as you try to prop up a dubious individual with questionable motives, who may now very well be investigated herself (Azeri, Turk, whatever)! Once again, you’re following the typical dashnak rule…defame others and divert attention from yourself!!! Since you blindly accept and ascribe to Armenian dashnakism, and support them lock-in-step; as I said before, you then also condone the murders of innocent people by terrorists. By your very actions, and now words, you are UNPATRIOTIC and a threat to this nation (perhaps the FBI might be interested in talking with you)! Either you’re incredibily stupid, or very cunning and trying to act cute. Either way, I believe that you’d turn on this very country the first chance you had, just like your treacherous and traitorous dashnak Armenian brethren did a century ago in another part of the world! And why are you so quick to call for investigations of “corrupt” American congressional members who happen to know the truth and reality, refuse to believe a single word of BS from the Armenian diaspora propagandists, and are friends and supporters of Turkey? Why don’t you have the same enthusiasim for those politicians in congress who are die-hard corrupt supporters of the Armenian propaganda machine (e.g. Rep. David Bonior of MI, who was so deep in the pockets of the dashnaks, that even Rush Limbaugh called him a “Pit-Yorkie” on TV. Bonior was ultimately cornered to the point that he couldn’t run again! Then there’s Rep. Adam Schiff of CA, Frank Pallone of NJ, Menendez, Pelosi, etc, etc, etc!)? You’ve got nothing and you know it!
As for your final sentence, go back and re-read your posts sometime! If you are even a fraction of your allusions, then you’ll understand me when I tell you a phrase regarding me and “my imaginary buddies/friends”…We Love The Night Life! Now go away, laddy, before you bore us all to death (unless that’s your strategy?).
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Wee Bobby,
You say that Sibel Edmonds is a “dubious individual with questionable motives”. What facts support your claim?
More importantly, why should the charges she makes be ignored, and not investigated, let the chips fall where they may? The Inspector General of the FBI sustained them. If there is reason to believe that any lobby or foreign government has corrupted members of Congress – including not only Turks but also conceivably Armenians, Israelis, Greeks or Fijians – those claims should be investigated to protect our Nation. You have decided that your nation is Turkey, so be it. Turks are poorly served by race-baiting ultranationalists who think their Genocidal hatred will thrive in American soil. They are also poorly served by a self-appointed juvenile spokesman who deals in ad hominem attacks rather than facts and logic.
As to “night life”, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Maybe you’re refeencing some old Disco crap before my time.
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JDA=The RAT,
This will be my final post to you, for you’re nothing more than a waste of my time and full of BS!
Just as I thought…YOU’RE A FAKE!!! For your edification, the “night life” has nothing to do with “Disco crap”! You’re full of it anyway RAT (especially in this regard), so this never bothered me, nor was it worth pursuing. You’ve just proved it! Over time, you seem to be proving all sorts of things about you, don’t you laddy!
Follow the ANCA investigations which have DIRECT ties to corrupt congressional politicians (some of whom I’ve already listed). This is just the tip of the mass dashnak bribery of numerous politicians at ALL levels that has been going on for at least four decades! Any attempts at investigation has always been blocked, courtesy of your dashnak-lead, deep-pockets, Armenian diaspora! Check the MA and CA Boards of Education to realize just how dashnaks have corrupted judges and boardmembers, let alone the district superintendents! We’re simply trying to rectify all of this “wrong” done by your brethren. And yes, there are other politicians that are corrupted by other interest groups, lobbyists for other nations, businesses, etc. I hope that these too will be investigated so that the “chips” will fall wherever they may.
Finally, I hold dual citizenships. I support, protect and strive for stronger positive ties and unity between the two nations. I’ve done my part (and continue to do so) in real time. You live in a world of being a wanna be. You blindly follow the teachings that you learned during your hate and propaganda indoctrination as a youth (probably at the AYF). Because you believe that dashnak Armos can do no wrong, you have tied yourself to all of their actions with total acceptance and exuberance…including terrorism! This is why you are a threat to this nation, and actually via extension, to the entire planet’s nations and population! Whether you actually carry out an act of terrorism remains to be seen. It is for this very reason that I’m requesting an FBI check on you (with possible future involvement of ICE and the NSA), as they track you down (you seem to forget, or perhaps you just don’t know, that no matter what site, forum, etc that you write from, you always leave an electronic signature trail that can be traced right back to you, via those incrdible “cyber toys” that the government has at their disposal).
So go ahead and continue to sound off. It’s your 1st amenndment right. You want to continue to defame, degrade, insult, etc others who oppose you, or with whom you disagree, it’s still your right to freedom of speech, even though it removes any doubt that you’re a classless and shameless a**hole who lacks any credibility. Just remember that one thing you say today will ultimately tie you into something else much deeper tomorrow!
Since I won’t be communicating with you any further, good luck in having anyone respond to a low life like you!
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Bob-o
Thou protests quite a bit. But you provide no argument, facts or analysis to support your position.
I can well understand your failure to explain your ad hominem attacks on Sibel Edmonds. You have no facts to support your claims that she is a “dubious woman with questionable motives.” Therefore you avoid the subject and make me the subject. I am not the subject. The safety of our country is the subject.
It is obvious you have no regard for the United States, because if you did you would want to know if the Edmonds charges are true. Just as native born Americans can and often do admit that the United States has often meddled illegally in the affairs of foreign states [Iran, 1953, for example] you can still love Turkey and condemn any efforts she made to corrupt American government officials, if that took place. Apparently your love for the Sublime Porte and its progeny displaces your responsibilities to this Nation.
Just admit it. I’m sure that from your position it does not seem to be treasonous to defend these alleged Turkish state operations.
The question you won’t answer is how can any loyal American ignore the possibility that these charges are true?
Unable to respond, you desert the field, screaming irrelevant epithets.
On second thought, please don’t sign up for the United States military. One has to love our country and take an oath to defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic to serve. You are incapable today of taking that oath without purpose of evasion.
Your point about e fingerprints is valid. You should assume that your personal information is known to the government, and that these posts are scrutinized. Not everybody in law enforcement and intelligence is bought and paid for.
Your American citizenship is a privilege.
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I hope the Armenians get what they want and stop the agreement on the Protocols.
There is nothing in the protocols for Turkey’s gain. NOTHING!!! All it says is Turkey will open the border regardless. (This again is forced by the Obama regime and the EU) I have spoken to people over there recently, (Many of you regular contributors will have noticed my absence… I was over there for a holiday(and JDA, I did throw a peice of dry bread over to your country so your family can feast for three months!) and all the locals do not want this border openned.)What has Turkey – a popluation of 70 to 80 million got to gain with a polulation of 3 million poor people comming over the border? They have nothing to offer us!!! Period!
As far as the BS “Genocide Claims” nobody cares anymore…. we all know what happenned and so does the entire world. They just play the game for the Armenians becuase they feel sorry for them!
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FAP,
My country is the United States of America, not Armenia or Turkey. Nonetheless, your making a joke about hunger and poverty, which admittedly exist in both Armenia and the other ex Soviet states, as well as glorious Turkey, is a sad and revealing glimpse into what is left of your undernourished soul. Armenians and Armenia have a knack for survival; idiots have been prophesying their destruction for millenia. The prophets are all dead, the Armenians are still here. They will be here after Turkey falls into civil war as well.
Since you “know” no Genocide occurred, why do you suppose people like you also generally demand a Commission to study what you know to be a non-event? Would it be a bad faith effort to remove the issue from public discourse on the claim that non political “experts” are looking at the issue in good faith?
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“My country is the United States of America, not Armenia or Turkey. Nonetheless, your making a joke about hunger and poverty”
JDA,
You are such a low life… has it ever occured to you that most of the worlds poverty is braught on by the United States Foregn Policies? There are an elite group running the United States who beleive the entire riches of the worlds energy resources and natural resources are theirs for the taking! They will stop at nothing to get what they want. They have in the past and will in the future:
– setup puppet regimes
– assasinated (directly or indirectly via CIA) heads of state
– Inspired junta’s to take to the streets and protest their own governments for not having the views of the US
– bribed, threatened, manupilated and blackmailed heads of state– backed and caused (via CIA) coup’s of governments
– What happenned in Italy and Greece in the 50’s and 60’s, Yugoslavia in the 80’s, Iraq, Afganistan…..Shall I go on?
You are an ignorant little child who think the US are the saviors of the world…. wake up and smell the BS your shovelling young child! We all pay the price of the New World Order. -
JDA=The RAT,
I wasn’t planning on writing anything to you, but your idiotic response to F.A. Pasha was laughable! You may live in the US, but you’re nothing more than a dashnak Armenian who poses as various entities (i.e. being a militarily trained jarhead sniper, yet not knowing something any raw recuit on thier second day at boot should know!)! You’re nothing more than a fake and phoney BSer! You run away from answering the countless questions posed to you and your ilk! You’ll do anything to divert attention from yourself while defaming others (your feable attempt to become “serious and concerned” when writing to F.A. Pasha). Because of your blind support and following of dashnak beliefs, actions, and complete propaganda, by mere association, you are obviously an ardent supporter of terroism which makes you quite UNPATRIOTIC (BTW, I have already spoken with some FBI acquaintances of mine and shown them your posts. Even though you do have your 1st ammendment rights, they too have found some things that you’ve written to be of “interest”. Consequently, you WILL be traced and a file established on you! You WILL be monitored here and throughout the net! You may or may not receive a visit to your home domicile from them, or others)!
Finally, everyone and his uncle on this planet knows why you dashnaks refuse, at any cost, to open your archives in both Yerevan and Boston and have a neutral international commission examine and study this whole alledged “genocide” event and put it to a rest once and for all! You’re all terrified that the truth (which you know as well as everyone else) will surface, Armenia and all dashnak Armenians will be humiliated for their century-old con job of the world’s Christian nations coming to light, and then have all foreign aid to Armenia cut off as punishment by a pissed-off UN! Turkey is on record as saying that they will abide by whatever the finding of such a commission will reveal. yet Armenia, and especially the dashnaks, refuse adamantly to even go there! Why do you think that is RAT? Sounds like you all have a lot to hide and much to worry about! Hey, I’d be dumpling some “bricks” myself if I were in your pathetic position! You’re all cornered and you know it! If you don’t believe me, go to the ANCA site and watch the video of their “town hall meeting” which they had on Sept. 24th in D.C. Note how they evade issues dealing with the protocols, and then take a gander at the riduculously biased, BS reasons that they use as arguments! Their desperation becomes quite evident early on. These are your own people RAT. BTW, tell your 6,000 monthly refugees escaping from Armenia to stop coming to Turkey to live! We’re all getting sick and tired of them sucking up our resources, just as they’ve been doing on the welfare rolls in Glendale, CA for years! Unlike in the US, Turks will not tolerate the extremism of the Latino gang wanna be, shaved head “Armenian Power” street gangs that are in LA! One thing that you said is true though…dashnak Armenians do have a knack for survival. Why do you think that they’re often referred to as “cockroacians”, “vermin”, and “parasitic leaches”! They’re always looking for the handouts from other nations so that they won’t have to do any work! That way, they can conserve/save their energy for those typical land grabs that they attempt every so often, after which they’ll then go crying to the UN (or the nearest Christian Missionary outpost), claiming that they were the victims (after they slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent civillians), while blaming the crumpled heaps of humanity, freshly murdered at their feet, as they try to con the Christians nations that they were only trying to “take back their ancesteral lands from ten thousand years ago”! And if that doesn’t work, then what will you do…reactivate your terrorist goon squads?!!
We’re done here!!!
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FAP,
I don’t recall thinking, and am quite sure i never wrote, that the United States was the saviour of the world, as you put it. I am grateful for having been born in a free country, and i admire the Constitution and Enlightenment values of the Founding Fathers. I even agree that my government has committed wrongful acts, both intentional and negligent. Unlike you and the other reflexive internet Turkish nationalists, I do not conflate the government with the culture and the ethnicity. You can knock Americanishness all you want, and most of my countrymen will join in.
Your claim that American foreign policy creates world hunger is a new one. Generally, economists point to causes of hunger as including the trade and tariff policies of other countries, but I doubt that American [or Chinese, Japanese, Russian or European] efforts to secure energy causes hunger. By the way, if it does, both Turkey and az. would seem to be willing helpers in that regard.
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Wee Wacky Wobby,
The good news is that you surely received high marks in logic and English composition. The bad news is that you seem to have attended Moammar Qaddafi Junior College.
I have never said anything about being a Marine Sniper. I have taken an oath to protect the united states from all enemies foreign and domestic, but so have countless others who were not Marines. i did encourage you to join the military to channel your energy and rage, and then suggested that maybe you should ask the Azeris to join their forces as a sniper, given that you communicate with Genocidal rage and imagery.
I understand why your multiple references to the FBI are meaningful to you. In Turkey, telling someone who disagrees with the state that they have been reported to the police can get one dead. Here, we have freedom of speech, and disagreeing with Turkish Nationalist propaganda is not a crime here, despite the best efforts of the Turkish state and its lobby here to distort and limit political speech here.
You should know that the FBI has jurisdiction to investigate federal crimes. Criticizing Turkish ultranationalists in general, or your crazed posts in particular is not a crime. Its a small and inconseqential public service. But the acts of the lobby and state here, as confirmed by Sibel Edmonds and John Cole – both former FBI employees – is.
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JDA=The RAT,
YAWN! Circumventing the issues is your trade mark, just as it is for all typical dashnaks! Tow that dashnak line!! BTW, you don’t always “say”. You do, however, infer! You claim that you’ve taken an oath, but not as a Marine. Uh huh! You might want to review some of your previous posts. “To protect the US from all enemies, foreign and domestic”. Okay. What branch of service were you in that you didn’t go through boot camp? If you had, you’d have had no problem answering my previous questions to you! Since you’re a phoney, I’ll give you a quick FYI…a true professional would never act the way that you do!
I’m not even going to bother responding to the other crap that you love to “throw into the pot”. As I told you before, you know absolutely nothing about me! Best to keep it that way!!
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Roberto,
I see that once again you are unable to differentiate between an idea and the propnent of that idea.
My military service, and other service to my country has nothing to do with my various ideas, which could just as easily come from any son of liberty, whether he is born in Turkey, Kurdistan or Fiji. And I am still waiting to see the slightest claim by you of loyalty to my country’s laws and values.
I wasn’t aware that the Tasnag party had published papers on the causes of hunger, the First Amendment, or the recent article about Sibel Edmonds concerning her work.
What is important is to understand the revelations of Ms. Edmonds and former FBI agent John Cole concerning the Turkish lobby and government’s possible efforts to corrupt American members of Congress as well as former State and defense department officials such as Marc Grossman. This testimony has nothing to do with Armenians or Armenian political parties other than for Ms. Edmonds’ implicit claims that much of this frenzied and possibly illegal effort by Turkey is, of course, directed towards derailing Congressional recognition of the Armenian gencide.
I do find it astounding that some Turkish Americans like you so little value the integrity of our government that they turn a blind eye towards this evidence, and hurl insults at Edmonds rather than ask for a neutral evaluation of her claims. If his is your stance, you are an enemy of this country. I encourage you to renounce your American citizenship, because you do not deserve or cherish it.
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JDA=ANNA=SONNA=ROZA=The RAT,
Saw your last post as your other persona, ANNA. Nice! As ANNA, you make sure that I now no longer even have my first ammendment rights! I can’t wait to see who you’ll become next!
Listen, do yourself a favor and cut this military service, super patriot act already. It’s starting to get old! You’re not in any service here in this country! You never have been! You are however, a supporter of terrorism and murder, be it simply guilt by association, or actual direct involment!! That’s what is of interest to the FBI, not your constant barrage of BS (which is your right under the 1st ammendment, living in the very country that you would turn on at a moments notice!). They don’t even care whether or not you answer any of the multitude of questions posed to you by me and others over time. Even your feable attempts at diversion, while neglecting to mention the corruption of numerous US and French politicians by dashnak Armenians within the diaspora, ironically means little to them. No RAT, you’re ultimately going to be traced and tracked, then arrested and indicted under the Homeland Security Act, for being a traitor to the security of this nation, as well as a terroristic threat! I ask just one thing from you…please, keep singing!!!
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Bobbo,
We seem to be at an impasse.
I ask on what basis, and in a neutral fashion, you deride the testimony of Sibel Edmonds, and you respond with a fourth grader’s very best insults. If you wish to create a public persona for yourself in this way, you really damage only your own already planarial stature. No matter how much time in ye olde weight room you spend, aparently in lieu of a demandng career.
Your delusions that I write here under different names is quite odd, and quite provably false, as you surely know. But I doubt that world leaders are keeping track of your repeated pratfalls on ice.
I see that you have stopped threatening me with Haloween-scary visits of your Turkish Ninja pals – I’m still waiting – and now claim to have the entire American federal apparatus at your disposal. While I recognize that the Turkish state and lobby has a lot of influence, i doubt that the FBI takes orders from Anara or in your case Nutley New Jersey.
So crawl back into your authentic Kemal Atatuk sleeping bag, pat your fierce chihuaua on the head, and dream your nationalist dreams. But please get out of my country, as you are no American.
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JDA=The RAT,
Keep singing!!! This will all be over sooner than you can imagine!
BTW, since you’ve been caught in so much BS and proven to be a phoney (unable or too frightened to answer the numerous questions posed to you in the recent past), to answer you last statement, I’m not in YOUR country! This is the United States of America, not Armenia!! You and your dashnak Armos will NEVER be able to buy/own this country (the US)! Perhaps you own a major portion of Armenia. I don’t know, nor do I care. As for me, I live here in the US with my fellow Americans! This country belongs to all of us!
As for Edmonds, let Sibel testify untill she’s blue in the face! You want to see corruption (other than one of the most corrupt governments in the world…Armenia!), then wait untill the investigations of your holy shrine, ANCA, really gets underway, as numerous corrupt congressional politicians, already known to be in the pockets of the dashnaks, will bound to come to light! Right now, out of desperation, all you’re doing is what you’ve always done…DIVERSION and DISTRACTION (followed by the classical insults) from your own “people’s” antics (playbook)! But hey, that’s fine with me. The more you keep singing, the more probable cause the FBI (and now other interested agengies, as I have recently been informed) has to do a real roto-rooter rectal ream on you, complete with every conceivable types of trails that may ultimately implicate you with terrorism (since you blindly support the dashnak Armenian Revolutionary ideologies (past, present and future) and as a potential threat to the security of this nation)! The Homeland Security Act has come a long way, and it is being used, as we speak! One day soon RAT, you’ll hear a knocking at you door (more like a crashing through it), and it won’t be the Girl Scouts selling cookies!
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